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OCR A-level Religious Studies Paper 3 (Christianity) - 20th June 2024 [Exam Chat]

Reply 60

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by unknown11?

what topic are we guys cutting out, cause i dont think i can get through all tweelve topics by today and tomorrow, i am thinking of christian moral principles. What else is everyone thinking!!!!!!!

marx and augustine

Reply 61

mayland

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I seriously wanna know why OCR decide to put us as the last humanity- my friends are all on holiday, it's so sad

Reply 62

unknown11?

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by mayland

I seriously wanna know why OCR decide to put us as the last humanity- my friends are all on holiday, it's so sad

bro same i wanna cry IM SO F*CKED FOR THIS EXAM

Reply 63

Ujala_H

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Does someone have any brief notes on pluralism and society that I could use?

Reply 64

mabelasare

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by Ujala_H

Does someone have any brief notes on pluralism and society that I could use?

https://chaseterraceacademy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Pluralism-and-society.pdf

Reply 65

mayland

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by Ujala_H

Does someone have any brief notes on pluralism and society that I could use?

Use the https://alevelphilosophyandreligion.com/ocr-religious-studies/ocr-christianity/ !!

Reply 66

groca12

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What kind of evaluation do you guys use for Bonhoeffer, ive got that he is outdated, there is Biblical contradiction and that it can lead to extremism.

Do you guys have any other points?

Reply 67

Henriettawinter

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by Joe312

The last exam is always hard to keep up the energy. Take a deep breath - for tonight just read over some things, relax - sleep well, and be productive tomorrow!

hii i was wondering if just studying the notes u have on death and afterlife would be enough for that topic because its such a long topic

Reply 68

Joe312

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by Henriettawinter

hii i was wondering if just studying the notes u have on death and afterlife would be enough for that topic because its such a long topic

Yeah it's enough. Think I wrote more notes for that topic than any other, but it's necessary. There's a few weird questions that are hard to apply those notes too - like questions on the sheep and the goats.

The annoying thing about that topic is that you have to see how the paragraphs link to a crazy array of questions.

E,g, the rich man and lazarus story:

1.

suggests heaven exists now so isn't a future state of the earth,

2.

suggests heaven and hell are physical places due to their talking and the rich man wanting to dip his finger in water to cool down

3.

Suggests unlimited election is true - since the story implies that the rich man went to hell because he failed to do good

4.

Suggests heaven & hell are eternal - since they are separated by a chasm and so leaving is impossible.

5.

Suggests God's judgement takes place before the end of time - since the rich man wanted to warn his family to be good, suggesting they were still alive and thus the story is not occurring at the end of time.

6.

Suggests not everyone goes through purgatory - since there's no mention of either the rich man or lazarus going through it.

And then Luther comes in and argues that this is just a parable and so we shouldn't use it to conclude facts about the afterlife after all!

That's the most applicable paragraph.

Then you've got to remember a purgatory paragraph. Hick's view of purgatory as part of his universalism can be relevant to purgatory questions as you could argue his version is better - since it avoids anyone going to hell. limited election (can use Augustine for this). Unlimited election (can use sheep & goats & inclusivism for this).

You need AO1 and AO2 for new earth theology in case the question is on that.

It's an insanely designed topic.

Reply 69

mayland

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by Joe312

Yeah it's enough. Think I wrote more notes for that topic than any other, but it's necessary. There's a few weird questions that are hard to apply those notes too - like questions on the sheep and the goats.
The annoying thing about that topic is that you have to see how the paragraphs link to a crazy array of questions.
E,g, the rich man and lazarus story:

1.

suggests heaven exists now so isn't a future state of the earth,

2.

suggests heaven and hell are physical places due to their talking and the rich man wanting to dip his finger in water to cool down

3.

Suggests unlimited election is true - since the story implies that the rich man went to hell because he failed to do good

4.

Suggests heaven & hell are eternal - since they are separated by a chasm and so leaving is impossible.

5.

Suggests God's judgement takes place before the end of time - since the rich man wanted to warn his family to be good, suggesting they were still alive and thus the story is not occurring at the end of time.

6.

Suggests not everyone goes through purgatory - since there's no mention of either the rich man or lazarus going through it.

And then Luther comes in and argues that this is just a parable and so we shouldn't use it to conclude facts about the afterlife after all!
That's the most applicable paragraph.
Then you've got to remember a purgatory paragraph. Hick's view of purgatory as part of his universalism can be relevant to purgatory questions as you could argue his version is better - since it avoids anyone going to hell. limited election (can use Augustine for this). Unlimited election (can use sheep & goats & inclusivism for this).
You need AO1 and AO2 for new earth theology in case the question is on that.
It's an insanely designed topic.

What the hell is new earth theology!

Reply 70

Henriettawinter

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by Joe312

Yeah it's enough. Think I wrote more notes for that topic than any other, but it's necessary. There's a few weird questions that are hard to apply those notes too - like questions on the sheep and the goats.
The annoying thing about that topic is that you have to see how the paragraphs link to a crazy array of questions.
E,g, the rich man and lazarus story:

1.

suggests heaven exists now so isn't a future state of the earth,

2.

suggests heaven and hell are physical places due to their talking and the rich man wanting to dip his finger in water to cool down

3.

Suggests unlimited election is true - since the story implies that the rich man went to hell because he failed to do good

4.

Suggests heaven & hell are eternal - since they are separated by a chasm and so leaving is impossible.

5.

Suggests God's judgement takes place before the end of time - since the rich man wanted to warn his family to be good, suggesting they were still alive and thus the story is not occurring at the end of time.

6.

Suggests not everyone goes through purgatory - since there's no mention of either the rich man or lazarus going through it.

And then Luther comes in and argues that this is just a parable and so we shouldn't use it to conclude facts about the afterlife after all!
That's the most applicable paragraph.
Then you've got to remember a purgatory paragraph. Hick's view of purgatory as part of his universalism can be relevant to purgatory questions as you could argue his version is better - since it avoids anyone going to hell. limited election (can use Augustine for this). Unlimited election (can use sheep & goats & inclusivism for this).
You need AO1 and AO2 for new earth theology in case the question is on that.
It's an insanely designed topic.

thank u so much! yh i think ill try to go through but it'll definitely be one i skip if it comes up- its like three topics in one!

Reply 71

Joe312

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by mayland

What the hell is new earth theology!

It's the theory that heaven does not exist now but is a future state of the earth - at the end of time, God will transform the earth back into its Eden state and the resurrected bodies of the righteous will have eternal life there.

The way the spec puts it is 'heaven is the transformation and perfection of all of creation'. So if the question is on it, that's how it'll be phrased.

N T Wright is a supporter of it - pointing to the lord's prayer which says 'thy kingdom come' - think about the language of praying for God's kingdom to 'come' - that's not praying for us to go up to heaven, but for heaven to come down to earth.

Also in revelations chapter 21 God shows John the future where there is a 'new heaven and a new earth'.

Of course the weird question arising from this is - if we can't go to heaven until the end of time because it won't exist until then - then what happens directly after death?

Reply 72

emelianiloufar

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by Ujala_H

Is anyone missing any topics out for paper 3?

knowledge of god

Reply 73

emelianiloufar

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by groca12

What kind of evaluation do you guys use for Bonhoeffer, ive got that he is outdated, there is Biblical contradiction and that it can lead to extremism.
Do you guys have any other points?

•

places too much emphasis on suffering and isnt relevant in todays society where most wouldnt welcome suffering in the same way - may also lead to ppl being put off by christianity

•

the extreme circumstances he was living in with the nazis explain his teachings and can only make sense within this context

•

legalism + duty to the state shouldnt be entirely disregard for faith - ppl today who are religious dont generally go out of their way to disobey the state

•

emphasis on community may disregard a personal relationship with god

•

discipleship teachings imply we must follow this to achieve grace - however grace is arguably freely given bc of gods omnibenevolence

•

less well known but he didnt let women train as bishops at fikenwalde (gender link) - actually it may be important to note that mary daly accused bonhoeffer of insisting wives should be subordinate to their husbands - . also his teachings at the seminary are only really accessible for those training to be ministers

•

theonomous ethics (another synoptic link hehe) would disagree as he emphasises the church and reason rather than just the bible (sola scriptura)

bear in mind evaluation also includes being positively evaluative. his teachings still have a profound influence on christianity - personally i find it easier to argue for bonhoeffwr

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Reply 74

mayland

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by emelianiloufar

•

places too much emphasis on suffering and isnt relevant in todays society where most wouldnt welcome suffering in the same way - may also lead to ppl being put off by christianity

•

the extreme circumstances he was living in with the nazis explain his teachings and can only make sense within this context

•

legalism + duty to the state shouldnt be entirely disregard for faith - ppl today who are religious dont generally go out of their way to disobey the state

•

emphasis on community may disregard a personal relationship with god

•

discipleship teachings imply we must follow this to achieve grace - however grace is arguably freely given bc of gods omnibenevolence

•

less well known but he didnt let women train as bishops at fikenwalde (gender link) - actually it may be important to note that mary daly accused bonhoeffer of insisting wives should be subordinate to their husbands - . also his teachings at the seminary are only really accessible for those training to be ministers

•

theonomous ethics (another synoptic link hehe) would disagree as he emphasises the church and reason rather than just the bible (sola scriptura)

bear in mind evaluation also includes being positively evaluative. his teachings still have a profound influence on christianity - personally i find it easier to argue for bonhoeffwr

you are a lovely human being (I'm legit revising this rn!)

Reply 75

mayland

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by Joe312

It's the theory that heaven does not exist now but is a future state of the earth - at the end of time, God will transform the earth back into its Eden state and the resurrected bodies of the righteous will have eternal life there.
The way the spec puts it is 'heaven is the transformation and perfection of all of creation'. So if the question is on it, that's how it'll be phrased.
N T Wright is a supporter of it - pointing to the lord's prayer which says 'thy kingdom come' - think about the language of praying for God's kingdom to 'come' - that's not praying for us to go up to heaven, but for heaven to come down to earth.
Also in revelations chapter 21 God shows John the future where there is a 'new heaven and a new earth'.
Of course the weird question arising from this is - if we can't go to heaven until the end of time because it won't exist until then - then what happens directly after death?

Thanks so much Joe! You've been a great help for these exams on here!

Reply 76

unknown11?

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How is everyone feeling

Reply 77

Henriettawinter

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Is belief in Gods existence sufficient to put ones trust in him?
Is faith sufficient reason for belief in Gods existence?
someone plz help me w points for these essays for knowledge of God

Reply 78

emelianiloufar

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by Henriettawinter

Is belief in Gods existence sufficient to put ones trust in him?
Is faith sufficient reason for belief in Gods existence?
someone plz help me w points for these essays for knowledge of God

faith = revealed theology. so people like barth would say its sufficient because of the fall. aquinas and calvin would partially agree and say it’s necessary but not sufficient because we also need natural theology , brunner would emphasise that we need natural theology too.
i suppose you could also conclude faith isnt sufficient because we need both RT + NT and use polkinghorne’s binocular analogy

Reply 79

trainn

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PREDICTIONS GUYSS?
i think afterlife, secularisation, gender-religion, possibly bonhoeffer or CMP
i feel like jesus would be too good to be true
what yall thinking

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