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Im a mess with UCAS help

Hi so currently its been around a week since i firmed Bristol and insured Leeds but after thinking further about accommodation i feel that im not ready to leave london at all. I want to change my firm to Kings college, I live in a extremely toxic household (physicall, emotionally etc) and would have to apply for accomodation rather quickly if i make this change, I also would need to change the course id be studying since I dont want to do Physics and philosophy as i initially got annoffer for but i want to do Physics. So now im in a mess between emailing kings to change my course even after i declined their offer, i then need to call UCAS to change my firm to kings, then Id have to RUSH to sort out accommodation because i NEED the affordable scheme otherwise i wouldn't be able to afford anything with my SFE budget and living at home will not be an option for me, for my own personal health. This is getting so overwhelming I can't sleep, the affordable scheme is only available at a first come first serve basis and im afraid i wont be able to get it if my email about the course change takes too long to be read. This is extremely stressful. I guess i just need opinions and help since my family has not been helpful at all throughout this process and I just feel overwhelmed and cant study for my a levels as i stress over my future. Ive gone to kings college in person, called the kings residences, called kings college, called UCAS and Im still having the same worries and uncertainties
pls someone help
Original post by shelleydrowning
Hi so currently its been around a week since i firmed Bristol and insured Leeds but after thinking further about accommodation i feel that im not ready to leave london at all. I want to change my firm to Kings college, I live in a extremely toxic household (physicall, emotionally etc) and would have to apply for accomodation rather quickly if i make this change, I also would need to change the course id be studying since I dont want to do Physics and philosophy as i initially got annoffer for but i want to do Physics. So now im in a mess between emailing kings to change my course even after i declined their offer, i then need to call UCAS to change my firm to kings, then Id have to RUSH to sort out accommodation because i NEED the affordable scheme otherwise i wouldn't be able to afford anything with my SFE budget and living at home will not be an option for me, for my own personal health. This is getting so overwhelming I can't sleep, the affordable scheme is only available at a first come first serve basis and im afraid i wont be able to get it if my email about the course change takes too long to be read. This is extremely stressful. I guess i just need opinions and help since my family has not been helpful at all throughout this process and I just feel overwhelmed and cant study for my a levels as i stress over my future. Ive gone to kings college in person, called the kings residences, called kings college, called UCAS and Im still having the same worries and uncertainties

Don't worry about the course change rn...you can do it once you get into uni. I guess you should try giving the university a legit reason for the desired change...not just a change of mind. How long has it been since you declined the kcl offer tho?
What did Kings say when you called them?
Original post by Anonymous
Don't worry about the course change rn...you can do it once you get into uni. I guess you should try giving the university a legit reason for the desired change...not just a change of mind. How long has it been since you declined the kcl offer tho?

About 5 days, I gave a reason on the message i sent them but theyll take a week to get back to me my main issue atm is getting accommodation in time
Original post by Admit-One
What did Kings say when you called them?

When I called kings they just told me to email about a course change, they didn't really suit to my specific situation just the fact that i wanted to change the course, but i guess its just their job to respond as such
Original post by shelleydrowning
When I called kings they just told me to email about a course change, they didn't really suit to my specific situation just the fact that i wanted to change the course, but i guess its just their job to respond as such

NB. UCAS have told unis not to incentivise early decisions with promises of priority accommodation. So am a bit surprised they are saying anything is first come, first served. Have you checked when their allocation process starts? (Not opening to accommodation applications, but actually allocating them).

Personally, I would call UCAS tomorrow and get them to reset your choices. Then contact the uni ASAP about a swap. Don’t rely on being able to do it once you are there. They could just say no.

It’s a bit risky to do it this way around, but if you dislike your current picks and courses there is not much to lose.
Original post by Admit-One
NB. UCAS have told unis not to incentivise early decisions with promises of priority accommodation. So am a bit surprised they are saying anything is first come, first served. Have you checked when their allocation process starts? (Not opening to accommodation applications, but actually allocating them).
Personally, I would call UCAS tomorrow and get them to reset your choices. Then contact the uni ASAP about a swap. Don’t rely on being able to do it once you are there. They could just say no.
It’s a bit risky to do it this way around, but if you dislike your current picks and courses there is not much to lose.

the first come first serve thing was for this KAAS scheme where you can get affordable accommodation if ur eligible, im scared that this whole process im going through wont be done in time for me to apply for it,


it is quite a gamble ik
Original post by shelleydrowning
Hi so currently its been around a week since i firmed Bristol and insured Leeds but after thinking further about accommodation i feel that im not ready to leave london at all. I want to change my firm to Kings college, I live in a extremely toxic household (physicall, emotionally etc) and would have to apply for accomodation rather quickly if i make this change, I also would need to change the course id be studying since I dont want to do Physics and philosophy as i initially got annoffer for but i want to do Physics. So now im in a mess between emailing kings to change my course even after i declined their offer, i then need to call UCAS to change my firm to kings, then Id have to RUSH to sort out accommodation because i NEED the affordable scheme otherwise i wouldn't be able to afford anything with my SFE budget and living at home will not be an option for me, for my own personal health. This is getting so overwhelming I can't sleep, the affordable scheme is only available at a first come first serve basis and im afraid i wont be able to get it if my email about the course change takes too long to be read. This is extremely stressful. I guess i just need opinions and help since my family has not been helpful at all throughout this process and I just feel overwhelmed and cant study for my a levels as i stress over my future. Ive gone to kings college in person, called the kings residences, called kings college, called UCAS and Im still having the same worries and uncertainties

Hi, I applied for KAAS as soon as it became available and they still haven't allocated people for it. If you're able to apply for it sometime soon you should have the same chance to get it as anyone else. They require a statement about personal circumstances to aid the allocation process so if you explain your circumstances as to why you need it you should be fine. There's also an accommodation at King's that's roughly the same price as KAAS rooms if you don't get accepted for the scheme. Hope this helps.
Reply 9
Figure out what you actually want.

Phone UCAS to swap you firm and insurance choices. If within 7 days you can do that without issue. Beyond that UCAS need to contact the Universities to check. So that’s the priority.

Email Kings with what you want to do (is that ‘Firm Kings and swap to straight Physics when able?)

Don’t worry about the course. You’ll be able to change once you start but remember the modules are flexible and you could probably make a P&P course look very much like a straight Physics course anyway.

You can possibly get an application in for accom anyway at Kings in advance of this being sorted, if at least paperwork is lodged that might help. Attach a covering email to it explaining what you’re up to ‘changing UCAS firm to Imperial, admin being done for that but while I wait here’s my accommodation application, any questions please phone me on….’

UCAS first.

From a personal perspective, having done a straight Physics degree, I’d think Physics and Philosophy would be a much more rewarding and interesting choice. If you were looking for personal advice, if it swings it, I’d consider at least staring on P&P and see how the first couple of terms go. Certainly if it was ‘stick with P&P or forget it’ I’d stick..

Get onto UCAS this morning though if you want to do this.
Original post by AnonOxE
Figure out what you actually want.
Phone UCAS to swap you firm and insurance choices. If within 7 days you can do that without issue. Beyond that UCAS need to contact the Universities to check. So that’s the priority.
Email Kings with what you want to do (is that ‘Firm Kings and swap to straight Physics when able?)
Don’t worry about the course. You’ll be able to change once you start but remember the modules are flexible and you could probably make a P&P course look very much like a straight Physics course anyway.
You can possibly get an application in for accom anyway at Kings in advance of this being sorted, if at least paperwork is lodged that might help. Attach a covering email to it explaining what you’re up to ‘changing UCAS firm to Imperial, admin being done for that but while I wait here’s my accommodation application, any questions please phone me on….’
UCAS first.
From a personal perspective, having done a straight Physics degree, I’d think Physics and Philosophy would be a much more rewarding and interesting choice. If you were looking for personal advice, if it swings it, I’d consider at least staring on P&P and see how the first couple of terms go. Certainly if it was ‘stick with P&P or forget it’ I’d stick..
Get onto UCAS this morning though if you want to do this.

Thank you so much,

I called UCAS and they managed to change my firm,

I messaged kings via their application portal and said id like to make the swap

I'll see to it that the change from physics and philosophy to physics is a good choice, I guess I was put off a bit by having no lab work and that maybe its less respected? im not too sure

As for accommodation, i have to wait 2 days after ive firmed my offer then i should be able to apply for the KAAS as well as access rhe registration for rooms, i rlly hope everything goes smoothly

My offer is ABC, A must be in maths, B must be in Physics, and I think its pretty attainable, im not 100% confident, do you have any tips for getting high marks in physics by the way?
Reply 11
yep. Practise past papers and questions. Mark those yourself and whatever needs work should be clear, back to the textbooks and re-familiarize yourself on that material and see how questions were tackled.

Best technique to get good science A Level grades is using practise exams as a study guider.

There’s a limited amount of material for the A-Level, if it’s not in the text book it’s not in the exam. There’s a limited amount of ways a question can be asked.

If you’re familiar with the text book material and have practiced how to tackle the questions, you’ll get a (very) good mark. Don’t be intimidated, you could get an A*.

If you hit a question and think, can’t remember that at all, stop your exam timer, go read the text book section, then rest start the question.

It’s a really effective way. Also, aim high. Forget the predicted grades, just keep hitting up the practise questions and it’ll come together.

On the Physics vs Physics & philosophy question I wonder if the best person to get hold of might be the Physics admissions tutor at Imperial. If you can ping them an email and ask for a call back, say you want to talk it through. Other option is the offer holder’s day. On ‘prestige’ for the two courses, I’m certain either of those at Imperial will
carry a lot of weight. Really it depends where you see it taking you. In any case I suspect the admissions tutor will say you can sort it all out in the first term. Thing is your undergrad degree really is only the start. If you click with physics as a career you’ll be on a post grad course anyway after 3 short years. If not and you head elsewhere, either course will be fine.
I couldn't find anything on the KAAS page that suggests it's first-come, first-served.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/accommodation/undergraduate/kaas

In fact this bit:

"In the event of us receiving more applications than our current availability, the following order of priority will be applied."

Suggests that they must wait for a certain period before allocating. In any case, I can see that you've swapped your choices so should be able to apply.
Original post by Admit-One
I couldn't find anything on the KAAS page that suggests it's first-come, first-served.
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/accommodation/undergraduate/kaas
In fact this bit:
"In the event of us receiving more applications than our current availability, the following order of priority will be applied."
Suggests that they must wait for a certain period before allocating. In any case, I can see that you've swapped your choices so should be able to apply.

Ah okay that reassures me, i need to wait 2 days still to apply for accom but i'll update on the situation

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