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I've been rejected by UoN Law School but given an alternative offer

I've applied for the Law LLB Hons M100 course. However, I've received an offer for criminology with the message below:
Please note as your qualifications do not meet the requirements for the course you originally
applied for this is an offer for an alternative course.

On the Law LLB Hons website, the entry requirements are as follows:
A level
A*AA
Required subjects
Five GCSEs at grade 4 (C) or above, which must include English

I have an A* in A-Level Turkish and A,A predicted in Economics and History.
I also have six GCSEs that are above grade 4, including English grade 5.

I'm still not quite sure where I did wrong and all I was told was that my application was unsuccessful and they will not reconsider the decision and don't have time to give feedback. Can anyone please show me a path? I really wanted to do law at nottingham but it seems like they didn't want me haha..
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Original post by hureyre
I've applied for the Law LLB Hons M100 course. However, I've received an offer for criminology with the message below:
Please note as your qualifications do not meet the requirements for the course you originally
applied for this is an offer for an alternative course.
On the Law LLB Hons website, the entry requirements are as follows:
A level
A*AA
Required subjects
Five GCSEs at grade 4 (C) or above, which must include English
I have an A* in A-Level Turkish and A,A predicted in Economics and History.
I also have six GCSEs that are above grade 4, including English grade 5.
I'm still not quite sure where I did wrong and all I was told was that my application was unsuccessful and they will not reconsider the decision and don't have time to give feedback. Can anyone please show me a path? I really wanted to do law at nottingham but it seems like they didn't want me haha..

Is Turkish a native language?
Reply 2
Original post by hureyre
I've applied for the Law LLB Hons M100 course. However, I've received an offer for criminology with the message below:
Please note as your qualifications do not meet the requirements for the course you originally
applied for this is an offer for an alternative course.
On the Law LLB Hons website, the entry requirements are as follows:
A level
A*AA
Required subjects
Five GCSEs at grade 4 (C) or above, which must include English
I have an A* in A-Level Turkish and A,A predicted in Economics and History.
I also have six GCSEs that are above grade 4, including English grade 5.
I'm still not quite sure where I did wrong and all I was told was that my application was unsuccessful and they will not reconsider the decision and don't have time to give feedback. Can anyone please show me a path? I really wanted to do law at nottingham but it seems like they didn't want me haha..

Hey, I'm sorry you didn't get an offer from where you wanted to go to, I know a bunch of people who received this reply last year.

They, like most really good law unis, probably received a lot of applications, and having the required predicted grades doesn't automatically make you a shoe-in. It may have been something about your personal statement - it could be something incredibly arbitrary - or maybe your grades were just outdone by other applicants. The vast majority of people applying for courses have the required grades predicted, but offer levels still aren't super high.

I'm sorry that you didn't receive an offer, it's likely that there were just top many applicants who had higher grades or something like that, the defining measure is probably very small in many cases.

Don't let this dishearten you, though. I don't mean to be harsh if that's how I come across. I wish you the best with your other applications.
Reply 3
Original post by ageshallnot
Is Turkish a native language?

Yes, it is my native language.
Reply 4
Original post by Lttale
Hey, I'm sorry you didn't get an offer from where you wanted to go to, I know a bunch of people who received this reply last year.
They, like most really good law unis, probably received a lot of applications, and having the required predicted grades doesn't automatically make you a shoe-in. It may have been something about your personal statement - it could be something incredibly arbitrary - or maybe your grades were just outdone by other applicants. The vast majority of people applying for courses have the required grades predicted, but offer levels still aren't super high.
I'm sorry that you didn't receive an offer, it's likely that there were just top many applicants who had higher grades or something like that, the defining measure is probably very small in many cases.
Don't let this dishearten you, though. I don't mean to be harsh if that's how I come across. I wish you the best with your other applications.

Thank you for your message. I understand what you mean, and thank you for your wishes too.
Original post by hureyre
Thank you for your message. I understand what you mean, and thank you for your wishes too.

Various possibilities...

1) They don't count A-levels in an applicant's native language, though I can't find that anywhere.

2) They don't like the fact that you aren't doing 3 A-levels in one sitting, though again I can't find that

3) They have given the wrong reason for rejecting you and it should have been something like "too many better applicants blah blah".

4) They have made a mistake, in which case you might as well contact them to find out.
Original post by ageshallnot
Is Turkish a native language?


Original post by hureyre
Yes, it is my native language.

It's more likely that you are not completing your 3 AL's in the same sitting. Uni's don't really discount native languages nowadays, (not that they can really police what an applicant's native languages might be).

If you have already asked for feedback and they've said they can't provide it then there is not much you can do. It is a rejection for Law and Criminology is different discipline that may not be of any interest to you.
Original post by ageshallnot
Is Turkish a native language?


To my knowledge, no-one - apart from LSE - has a problem with a 'home language' A level.

All other sensible Unis have reached the 21st century realisation that if they are accepting A levels in Welsh or Gaelic, to not accept A levels in Tamil, Mandarin, or Turkish etc is actually racist. And that even if you are 'of Indian/Chinese/Turkish heritage', it may not be a language spoken at home and you may be learning it from scratch. Or you may not be of that heritage at all, you may just have a surname like Lee and be white British or be called Smith and be of Chinese heritage and who can tell, and why are we asking this anyway. Etc etc. And to avoid wasting hundreds of hours of admissions staff time trying to gauge if a 17 year old is ethnically Chinese and if this means that learning Mandarin is easier/harder for them than anyone else, and other daft questions, they just ACCEPT ALL A LEVELS without going down this rabbit-hole in the first place.

Apart from LSE of course. Draw your own conclusions from that one.
Original post by McGinger
To my knowledge, no-one - apart from LSE - has a problem with a 'home language' A level.

All other sensible Unis have reached the 21st century realisation that if they are accepting A levels in Welsh or Gaelic, to not accept A levels in Tamil, Mandarin, or Turkish etc is actually racist. And that even if you are 'of Indian/Chinese/Turkish heritage', it may not be a language spoken at home and you may be learning it from scratch. Or you may not be of that heritage at all, you may just have a surname like Lee and be white British or be called Smith and be of Chinese heritage and who can tell, and why are we asking this anyway. Etc etc. And to avoid wasting hundreds of hours of admissions staff time trying to gauge if a 17 year old is ethnically Chinese and if this means that learning Mandarin is easier/harder for them than anyone else, and other daft questions, they just ACCEPT ALL A LEVELS without going down this rabbit-hole in the first place.

Apart from LSE of course. Draw your own conclusions from that one.

All it will take is for LSE to get one particularly litigious applicant :smile:
Original post by Admit-One
All it will take is for LSE to get one particularly litigious applicant :smile:

Mega-PRSOM and on steroids.
Original post by hureyre
I've applied for the Law LLB Hons M100 course. However, I've received an offer for criminology with the message below:
Please note as your qualifications do not meet the requirements for the course you originally
applied for this is an offer for an alternative course.
On the Law LLB Hons website, the entry requirements are as follows:
A level
A*AA
Required subjects
Five GCSEs at grade 4 (C) or above, which must include English
I have an A* in A-Level Turkish and A,A predicted in Economics and History.
I also have six GCSEs that are above grade 4, including English grade 5.
I'm still not quite sure where I did wrong and all I was told was that my application was unsuccessful and they will not reconsider the decision and don't have time to give feedback. Can anyone please show me a path? I really wanted to do law at nottingham but it seems like they didn't want me haha..
In this upcoming exam cycle, will you only be sitting just the two A Levels in Economics and History?
Reply 11
Original post by xoxogossipgirluk
In this upcoming exam cycle, will you only be sitting just the two A Levels in Economics and History?
Yes, I did my Turkish in a year. My sixth form allowed me to have a flexible timetable where I attended 10 hours of Turkish each week to finish the course in a year. I ended up getting A* with only 7 marks away from the top grade.

Alongside my 2 A levels I’m currently part time employed in Citizens Advice as a HR, Data and Web Assistant.
Reply 12
Original post by Admit-One
It's more likely that you are not completing your 3 AL's in the same sitting. Uni's don't really discount native languages nowadays, (not that they can really police what an applicant's native languages might be).
If you have already asked for feedback and they've said they can't provide it then there is not much you can do. It is a rejection for Law and Criminology is different discipline that may not be of any interest to you.

I understand that. But I can rest assure you I’m doing my best to compensate for it. I’m volunteering during my independent study time and also part time employed in Citizens Advice. I’ve also done other sorts of volunteering throughout Year12 such as peer mentoring, teaching assistant in a primary school and court observations.
I really wanted to get into Nottingham Law but all I ever feel is that they can’t be bothered to explore what I can offer them as a student and they’re only interested in my GCSEs and A levels :/
Original post by hureyre
I understand that. But I can rest assure you I’m doing my best to compensate for it. I’m volunteering during my independent study time and also part time employed in Citizens Advice. I’ve also done other sorts of volunteering throughout Year12 such as peer mentoring, teaching assistant in a primary school and court observations.
I really wanted to get into Nottingham Law but all I ever feel is that they can’t be bothered to explore what I can offer them as a student and they’re only interested in my GCSEs and A levels :/

Unfortunately for most unis it will be a binary yes/no as to whether you meet the academic requirements before they look at your super-curriculars.

Your college should have advised you that this was a possibility with 2 AL’s in one sitting and it would be something to check with unis before submitting your app. Again, I am just guesstimating, but I think it’s the most likely explanation.
Reply 14
Original post by Admit-One
Unfortunately for most unis it will be a binary yes/no as to whether you meet the academic requirements before they look at your super-curriculars.
Your college should have advised you that this was a possibility with 2 AL’s in one sitting and it would be something to check with unis before submitting your app. Again, I am just guesstimating, but I think it’s the most likely explanation.

Thank you. It's a horrible feeling to realise its too late 😀 I tried my best but having limited knowledge over how things work and starting education in Year 11 had bigger effects than my efforts.
Increasingly, Unis are not worrying about 'sittings' for A levels - and especially where there are practical reasons for this.

Email each of the Unis you intend to apply to, explain your A levels, and ask what their policy is.
Bath and Bristol, for instance, have no problems with this.
I tried to check for the uni's policy regarding this but realised that the OP did not specify which uni they were referring to with UoN :smile:

Notts?
Original post by Admit-One
I tried to check for the uni's policy regarding this but realised that the OP did not specify which uni they were referring to with UoN :smile:
Notts?

Nottingham.
Original post by ageshallnot
Nottingham.


That was my best guess in which case I've checked and there is nothing about AL sittings that I could find on their website.
Original post by Admit-One
That was my best guess in which case I've checked and there is nothing about AL sittings that I could find on their website.

Well, they mention Nottingham in their last sentence.

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