Easy Colleges in Cambridge to get in - should this be allowed
There are some colleges in Cambridge that seem to be more like FE colleges than a proper academic/intellectual furnace. Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket. Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree? Apparently Cambridge will no longer offer "easy places" to State school students. When the glass ceiling smashes, there are only shards on the floor - careful not to step on them.
Reply 1
Original post by Voxdei
There are some colleges in Cambridge that seem to be more like FE colleges than a proper academic/intellectual furnace. Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket. Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree? Apparently Cambridge will no longer offer "easy places" to State school students. When the glass ceiling smashes, there are only shards on the floor - careful not to step on them.
The education is literally the same regardless of what college you go to. Lectures etc are shared between all of the colleges, and supervisions are often held in other colleges as well, so what you're saying makes no sense at all. Sure, going to Trinity College might make you seem a bit more "prestigious", but Cambridge's still Cambridge and in no way does one "devalue" their degree by going to a college with less prestige.
Also, I've never heard of an AAB offer.
Reply 2
Original post by Voxdei
There are some colleges in Cambridge that seem to be more like FE colleges than a proper academic/intellectual furnace. Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket. Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree? Apparently Cambridge will no longer offer "easy places" to State school students. When the glass ceiling smashes, there are only shards on the floor - careful not to step on them.
Can you name the “easy” colleges?
Reply 3
Original post by Anonymous
The education is literally the same regardless of what college you go to. Lectures etc are shared between all of the colleges, and supervisions are often held in other colleges as well, so what you're saying makes no sense at all. Sure, going to Trinity College might make you seem a bit more "prestigious", but Cambridge's still Cambridge and in no way does one "devalue" their degree by going to a college with less prestige.
Also, I've never heard of an AAB offer.
Also, I've never heard of an AAB offer.
This is a myth that is generally not true. Trinity’s prestige is simply due to the number of applicants per place. There are more ‘prestigious’ colleges like Christ’s that often tops the internal rankings.
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Reply 4
I am having a hard time comprehending some of these sentences 😭
["Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket."]
-Is this a question or a statement 😭😭?
["Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree?"]
-Is it the students devaluing the degree or the college?
Anywho, I don't think this is true. Every applicant (who makes it that far) is worthy of an offer. Even if they receive a AAA instead of A*AA, that doesn't depict that they're not able for a degree from Cambridge. Everyone's been doing well so far. Also, Cambridge doesn't only care about your school results! I'm pretty sure they place a lot on performances in the interview and other factors. Just because a student is "weaker" in one area doesn't mean they didn't excel in some other area and it doesn't mean they're no longer "good enough" for the place at the college.
Also while some colleges may be "richer" and may produce better results overall, it doesn't necessarily mean any college is worser or the students are incapable. Though it might indicate that the best of the best students tend to apply to the so called "prestigious" colleges.
["Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket."]
-Is this a question or a statement 😭😭?
["Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree?"]
-Is it the students devaluing the degree or the college?
Anywho, I don't think this is true. Every applicant (who makes it that far) is worthy of an offer. Even if they receive a AAA instead of A*AA, that doesn't depict that they're not able for a degree from Cambridge. Everyone's been doing well so far. Also, Cambridge doesn't only care about your school results! I'm pretty sure they place a lot on performances in the interview and other factors. Just because a student is "weaker" in one area doesn't mean they didn't excel in some other area and it doesn't mean they're no longer "good enough" for the place at the college.
Also while some colleges may be "richer" and may produce better results overall, it doesn't necessarily mean any college is worser or the students are incapable. Though it might indicate that the best of the best students tend to apply to the so called "prestigious" colleges.
Reply 5
Original post by Wired_1800
This is a myth that is generally not true. Trinity’s prestigious is simply due to the number of applicants per place. There are more ‘prestigious’ colleges like Christ’s that often tops the internal rankings.
Yh I'm sorry, I didn't mean Trinity had better education (that's kinda the whole point of my message) but because of how competitive it is, it's very prestigious. So saying you went to Trinity College might make you seem more prestigious, but it doesn't "devalue" a degree from any of the other Colleges. Hope this makes it more clear haha, you certainly have a point though
Reply 6
Original post by Anonymous
Yh I'm sorry, I didn't mean Trinity had better education (that's kinda the whole point of my message) but because of how competitive it is, it's very prestigious. So saying you went to Trinity College might make you seem more prestigious, but it doesn't "devalue" a degree from any of the other Colleges. Hope this makes it more clear haha, you certainly have a point though
It does and you are right about the perception.
I also think that the collegiate differences is often an internal thing or within circles of people that understand Oxbridge’s system. If you say to a random bloke that you went to Homerton College or Trinity College, he wont have a clue what’s the difference.
It’s like Durham, where colleges like Castle, St Mary’s or Hatfield are seen as prestigious but I had no idea until my friends went up to study there.
Original post by Anonymous
The education is literally the same regardless of what college you go to. Lectures etc are shared between all of the colleges, and supervisions are often held in other colleges as well, so what you're saying makes no sense at all. Sure, going to Trinity College might make you seem a bit more "prestigious", but Cambridge's still Cambridge and in no way does one "devalue" their degree by going to a college with less prestige.
Also, I've never heard of an AAB offer.
Also, I've never heard of an AAB offer.
Hmm, I think that Homerton is doing a lot of social engineering which stands to the detriment of good students. I understand that this stops this year. Also one thing I don't understand, is why BEMs only focus on colonialism and the black question. Fancy if all of us have to study what happened to our ancestors. What a waste of an education. I am talking the Humanities of course. As for "being equal" - I was told by Homerton to find my own accommodation via Facebook - and someone said to me "you will be sharing a house with Karen and Alice" - so much for the "Cambridge experience".
Reply 8
Original post by Voxdei
Hmm, I think that Homerton is doing a lot of social engineering which stands to the detriment of good students. I understand that this stops this year. Also one thing I don't understand, is why BEMs only focus on colonialism and the black question. Fancy if all of us have to study what happened to our ancestors. What a waste of an education. I am talking the Humanities of course. As for "being equal" - I was told by Homerton to find my own accommodation via Facebook - and someone said to me "you will be sharing a house with Karen and Alice" - so much for the "Cambridge experience".
I'm not sure I really understand what you're saying here. Since the education is the same for all colleges, the content of any humanities course shouldn't be influenced by one's choice of college (if that's what you're suggesting). Are you an undergraduate student? I think postgraduate students aren't guaranteed accomodation at all colleges, but undergraduates should generally be able to live in college accomodation.
Reply 9
None of the Cambridge colleges are like FE colleges - they all follow the same academic curriculum and the students take the same exams. The courses are set by the University not by the colleges.
Original post by Voxdei
There are some colleges in Cambridge that seem to be more like FE colleges than a proper academic/intellectual furnace. Are they likely to ask for an Astar AA, and then accept students on a AAA or AAB ticket. Do students realise that they are devaluing the degree? Apparently Cambridge will no longer offer "easy places" to State school students. When the glass ceiling smashes, there are only shards on the floor - careful not to step on them.
Not true at all. Some of the out of town colleges get far less applicants than the famous old central ones, but this does not necessarily make them any easier to get into. Those out of towns ones will often reject every applicant that has applied to them directly for a particular course, and instead take people from the pool who have applied to other colleges. When you include this in your stats and look at the full picture, the offer rate across all colleges are surprisingly similar.
I know several people that applied to some of the supposedly least competitive colleges with 4xA* predictions and brilliant supercuriculars, and still got rejected.
(edited 1 year ago)
Original post by Voxdei
Hmm, I think that Homerton is doing a lot of social engineering which stands to the detriment of good students. I understand that this stops this year. Also one thing I don't understand, is why BEMs only focus on colonialism and the black question. Fancy if all of us have to study what happened to our ancestors. What a waste of an education. I am talking the Humanities of course. As for "being equal" - I was told by Homerton to find my own accommodation via Facebook - and someone said to me "you will be sharing a house with Karen and Alice" - so much for the "Cambridge experience".
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