OCR A Level Classical Civilisation Paper 2 (H408/21-24) - 20th May 2024 [Exam Chat]

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swift513

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by cinmnsoul

I have a big doc of them I can send you if you want?

Please could you send me this as well! Thank you

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aaaaaaaaaa2006

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by nabihaaa

any predictions for greek theatre?

they've asked abt how well comedy translates to a modern audience before but not tragedy so i think that could come up? they might ask something abt staging or on how dionysus acts in bacchae versus frogs?

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alecks

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by cinmnsoul

I have a big doc of them I can send you if you want?

not to be the 20 millionth request but could you send them to me as well please?? such a lifesaver

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racracrac

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does anyone know the greek art questions from last year?

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parmiss05

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by racracrac

does anyone know the greek art questions from last year?

source A berlin standing goddess, source B siphnian treasury frieze and you had to name each of the gods 🤨 20 marker was female figures in free standing and architectural sculpture and 30 markers were between "towards the end of the 5th century bc sculptors had overcome the challenges of filling the pedimental space effectively" amd "greek vase painters were only interested in depicted scenes of bravery and heroism" (idk why you would choose the pediment one its so specific)

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VeniVidiVinum

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by aaaaaaaaaa2006

they've asked abt how well comedy translates to a modern audience before but not tragedy so i think that could come up? they might ask something abt staging or on how dionysus acts in bacchae versus frogs?

the dionysus question came up a few years ago and i doubt they'd reuse it so specifically

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racracrac

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hiiii!!!!! does anyone have any greek art 30 mark essays they'd be willing to share? i'm second guessing how to structure my answer and it would be helpful to see how others do it :smile:

Reply 27

aaaaaaaaaa2006

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by VeniVidiVinum

the dionysus question came up a few years ago and i doubt they'd reuse it so specifically

realised that afterwards </3 my bad

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VeniVidiVinum

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by aaaaaaaaaa2006

realised that afterwards </3 my bad

to be honest i have no idea what it could be. i feel like they've used pretty much everything? i'm hoping for a question on bacchae bc it's my favourite play of the 3

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aaaaaaaaaa2006

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by VeniVidiVinum

to be honest i have no idea what it could be. i feel like they've used pretty much everything? i'm hoping for a question on bacchae bc it's my favourite play of the 3

my fave's oedipus tbh,,, everything is so subtle. all of this was decided before oedipus was born but all of it's his fault. no gods are there but you can feel their looming presence. he doesn't deserve this but he brought it on himself, it's all their choices but it'S ALSO NOT. it's brilliant 10/10 perfect tragedy. like i love bacchae also but there's something so unsettling abt oedipus

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VeniVidiVinum

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by aaaaaaaaaa2006

my fave's oedipus tbh,,, everything is so subtle. all of this was decided before oedipus was born but all of it's his fault. no gods are there but you can feel their looming presence. he doesn't deserve this but he brought it on himself, it's all their choices but it'S ALSO NOT. it's brilliant 10/10 perfect tragedy. like i love bacchae also but there's something so unsettling abt oedipus

for me it's the opposite. i find oedipus so hard to sympathise with but pentheus is almost doomed from the start and he just keeps digging his own grave deeper and deeper. the chorus being foreign and openly hostile is also really fun to me

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cinmnsoul

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bacchae is def my favourite tragedy but im such a frogs fan... like im so upset that the 30m last year was about the first v second half of frogs that was like my dream question. since the political stuff is so more direct than tragedy its such a fun thing to analyse. might not always be funny haha but aristophanes really knew his politics lol

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alecks

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if they did a greek theatre question on slaves, what would people write? who would you cite as a slave in bacchae and oedipus (obvi xanthias and heracles' slave in frogs)

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liv2005

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Has anyone got an Imperial Image predictions? The past 30 markers seem to have been on all the possible themes so I don't know if they will begin repeating them, I've noticed Julius Caesar has only been the 20, not the 30, could the question be linked to him?

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VeniVidiVinum

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by cinmnsoul

bacchae is def my favourite tragedy but im such a frogs fan... like im so upset that the 30m last year was about the first v second half of frogs that was like my dream question. since the political stuff is so more direct than tragedy its such a fun thing to analyse. might not always be funny haha but aristophanes really knew his politics lol

yes agreed!! they dont reliably do a frogs question but the tragedies are always in there so im kind of annoyed we might not get one

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aaaaaaaaaa2006

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by VeniVidiVinum

for me it's the opposite. i find oedipus so hard to sympathise with but pentheus is almost doomed from the start and he just keeps digging his own grave deeper and deeper. the chorus being foreign and openly hostile is also really fun to me

oh i cheered when pentheus died becasue i hated his guts

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aaaaaaaaaa2006

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by alecks

if they did a greek theatre question on slaves, what would people write? who would you cite as a slave in bacchae and oedipus (obvi xanthias and heracles' slave in frogs)

messengers are always an option but in oedipus one of the characters who relayed vital information and thus is vital to the plot was a shepherd

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SopranaKapela

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by batsubamii

I am!! I wanna know what people are predicting because they were right with WOTH

same! i am so curious myself - the WOTH was such a good prediction.

Personally, for imperial image i can see us getting a one about how did augustus use his family for power, maybe something on morality like 'how did Augustus portray himsefl as a man of morality' there are some excellent arguments you can make for that one (maybe mention Ovid: 'he directed morality by his own example' and then counter arguing with someone like Suetonius or Holland (Scholar) . Good Holland quote for this could be 'he waged war with blood... and yet crowned himself the prince of peace') or even evaluating visual sources - as there have been two years where lit sources have been evaluated so it's not impossible.

So my predictions for 30 marker:

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Visual Sources Evaluate

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Women's Role for Augustus' image (this could potentially be a strong one, talk about Cleopatra in Actium and Livia and how these two women are portrayed as complete opposites - supporting the Augustus/Antony divison. Or how he used women to portray himself as a family man, a pious man, a man of ritual and rites, a man of traditional roman values - Suetonius: 'he would wear the clothes his grandaughters spun for him'. The Ara Pacis with the procession of the Roman family taking their relgious rites). Good scholar could be Holland: 'first household that was in the public eye')