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OCR A Level Classical Civilisation Paper 2 (H408/21-24) - 20th May 2024 [Exam Chat]

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by alecks
those three words haunt me.....
women in frogs gets me every time 🥲

I end up going to 'Assemblywomen' and 'Thesmophoriazusae' in desperation 💀

Reply 61

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by alecks
those three words haunt me.....
women in frogs gets me every time 🥲

ppp yas queen yas slay

Reply 62

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by Iz-belle
I end up going to 'Assemblywomen' and 'Thesmophoriazusae' in desperation 💀

izziee??????? is this you??? is this gods kings woman clan

Reply 63

does anyone do imperial image? what's everyones predictions? :smile:

Reply 64

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by ikeafannypakck
does anyone do imperial image? what's everyones predictions? :smile:

Thinking morality/religion personally... military also possible. Doubt it will be on the golden age, pater patriae, male role models, etc. Can barely find anyone doing this course ! Everyone seems to be doing theatre 😪

Reply 65

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by lamia24jne
Thinking morality/religion personally... military also possible. Doubt it will be on the golden age, pater patriae, male role models, etc. Can barely find anyone doing this course ! Everyone seems to be doing theatre 😪

i knowww, we’re a rare breed😅 i hope it’s not religion, cause i know they asked a question about how effective of a religious leader he was a couple of years ago. i’m thinking maybe something to do with divi filus and how he legitmised his power and maybe also his successors/imperial family, like the gaius and lucius aureus maybe… i don’t know really i’m stressing😭

Reply 66

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by ikeafannypakck
i knowww, we’re a rare breed😅 i hope it’s not religion, cause i know they asked a question about how effective of a religious leader he was a couple of years ago. i’m thinking maybe something to do with divi filus and how he legitmised his power and maybe also his successors/imperial family, like the gaius and lucius aureus maybe… i don’t know really i’m stressing😭

Same...seems really difficult to predict this paper in comparison to WOTH. I don't think JC has cropped up in the extended qs for a while, but there's been recent questions along the lines of 'augustus relied on other men for his image' where he's primarily used, etc. And 2022 was the 43BC Aureus with him and JC together...frantically revising everything just in case, makes learning scholars really inconvenient though. Really playing a crane game with OCR this paper

Reply 67

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by lamia24jne
Same...seems really difficult to predict this paper in comparison to WOTH. I don't think JC has cropped up in the extended qs for a while, but there's been recent questions along the lines of 'augustus relied on other men for his image' where he's primarily used, etc. And 2022 was the 43BC Aureus with him and JC together...frantically revising everything just in case, makes learning scholars really inconvenient though. Really playing a crane game with OCR this paper
knowing ocr they’re gonna ask an insanely worded question just to make us suffer. do you know what came up last year?!

Reply 68

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by ikeafannypakck
knowing ocr they’re gonna ask an insanely worded question just to make us suffer. do you know what came up last year?!

I don't know all of them, but our teacher gave us a printed mark scheme a while back for one of the 20s:

'Augustus saw himself as a new Saturn (a leader) who introduced a Golden Age of peace and prosperity to Rome and the empire'. Evaluate how far the sources you have studied support the opinion.

The first source was the Tellus relief from the Ara Pacis, the second the Carmen Saeculare, makes me doubt Pax Romana/Pax Deorum in that case.
(99 percent sure it was 2023 since it said June 2023 in the top corner of the sheet) Fairly wordy one in my opinion, some of the points were discussion of the sources Horace 3.14 and 4.15, Propertius 4.6, the Ara pacis in general and the Pax denarius. Pretty much every mark scheme wants reference the Res Gestae and Suetonius for 20s/30s I think.
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Reply 69

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by lamia24jne
I don't know all of them, but our teacher gave us a printed mark scheme a while back for one of the 20s:
'Augustus saw himself as a new Saturn (a leader) who introduced a Golden Age of peace and prosperity to Rome and the empire'. Evaluate how far the sources you have studied support the opinion.
The first source was the Tellus relief from the Ara Pacis, the second the Carmen Saeculare, makes me doubt Pax Romana/Pax Deorum in that case.
(99 percent sure it was 2023 since it said June 2023 in the top corner of the sheet) Fairly wordy one in my opinion, some of the points were discussion of the sources Horace 3.14 and 4.15, Propertius 4.6, the Ara pacis in general and the Pax denarius. Pretty much every mark scheme wants reference the Res Gestae and Suetonius for 20s/30s I think.

that’s not a great question tbf so glad that probs won’t come up ahh.i’m not the best with the golden age lol. i think military and his wars may come up, maybe how he presented his provincial campaigns? i’m trying to go through the spec and see what could

Reply 70

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by ikeafannypakck
that’s not a great question tbf so glad that probs won’t come up ahh.i’m not the best with the golden age lol. i think military and his wars may come up, maybe how he presented his provincial campaigns? i’m trying to go through the spec and see what could

Military defo possible, last came up around 2020 in the 30m. Civil wars, the triple triumphs, etc. wouldn't be bad to talk about. My teacher's guessing morality for this paper, like how he set an exemplar with his family, the lex julia, literature like Horace's moral decadence, scandals from Suetonius. Praying he's right 🤓 just a guess though at the end of the day

Reply 71

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by lamia24jne
Military defo possible, last came up around 2020 in the 30m. Civil wars, the triple triumphs, etc. wouldn't be bad to talk about. My teacher's guessing morality for this paper, like how he set an exemplar with his family, the lex julia, literature like Horace's moral decadence, scandals from Suetonius. Praying he's right 🤓 just a guess though at the end of the day
I have a feeling that the prescribed source will be Sebastien at aphrodisias

Reply 72

Heeeeeey, any Greek art predictions???

Reply 73

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by lamia24jne
Same...seems really difficult to predict this paper in comparison to WOTH. I don't think JC has cropped up in the extended qs for a while, but there's been recent questions along the lines of 'augustus relied on other men for his image' where he's primarily used, etc. And 2022 was the 43BC Aureus with him and JC together...frantically revising everything just in case, makes learning scholars really inconvenient though. Really playing a crane game with OCR this paper

Neither has the role of Lepidus. They've had Antony as a part of the Second Triumvirate, but never him so my teacher has guessed the 30 marker might be Lepidus! 🙂

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by liv2005
Neither has the role of Lepidus. They've had Antony as a part of the Second Triumvirate, but never him so my teacher has guessed the 30 marker might be Lepidus! 🙂
no way lepidus will come up he’s literally irrelevant

Reply 75

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by ikeafannypakck
no way lepidus will come up he’s literally irrelevant

wdym, he's incredibly relevant for morality, which is probably going to come up, and for religion

Reply 76

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by 17_mai
wdym, he's incredibly relevant for morality, which is probably going to come up, and for religion

yeah, not a sole 30m on lepidus. you could mention him for morality and augustus sparing him and allowing him to hold pontifex maximus (clementia) and his sicily role but that’s it. the whole spec is on augsutus image and how he used it they aren’t gonna ask about lepidus who literally died halfway into the course

Reply 77

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by ikeafannypakck
yeah, not a sole 30m on lepidus. you could mention him for morality and augustus sparing him and allowing him to hold pontifex maximus (clementia) and his sicily role but that’s it. the whole spec is on augsutus image and how he used it they aren’t gonna ask about lepidus who literally died halfway into the course

If you say that Lepidus died halfway through the course then Agrippa must also be irrelevant as they died in the same year!! Julius Caesar must also be irrelevant then as he died in 44 BC!!!!!

Reply 78

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by 17_mai
If you say that Lepidus died halfway through the course then Agrippa must also be irrelevant as they died in the same year!! Julius Caesar must also be irrelevant then as he died in 44 BC!!!!!

they’re on the spec tho😭 we’ll see

Reply 79

Anyone just finish the theatre paper?

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