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Harris Westminster or LAET?

I’ve received conditionals for both Harris Westminster and LAET, but I’m really not sure which to choose.

I went to LAET for the interview and I rlly like the school however I think it’s a little further to get to than Harris Westminster
At the same time, I did so much for my Harris Westminster application (there was an assessment and interview), so I’m not sure if not going would just be a waste.
Harris Westminster also performs better academically I think, but I’m not sure if this means it’s too academically challenging for me (predicteds: 99988877). LAET seems like a much more relaxed environment and I like their building much much more aswell.
Both are around an equal distance from me (LAET is a little longer) and I’m really not sure which to choose!

Could anyone (especially current students of either) help me out with which to choose?

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Original post by hsjsjsnsjskk
I’ve received conditionals for both Harris Westminster and LAET, but I’m really not sure which to choose.
I went to LAET for the interview and I rlly like the school however I think it’s a little further to get to than Harris Westminster
At the same time, I did so much for my Harris Westminster application (there was an assessment and interview), so I’m not sure if not going would just be a waste.
Harris Westminster also performs better academically I think, but I’m not sure if this means it’s too academically challenging for me (predicteds: 99988877). LAET seems like a much more relaxed environment and I like their building much much more aswell.
Both are around an equal distance from me (LAET is a little longer) and I’m really not sure which to choose!
Could anyone (especially current students of either) help me out with which to choose?

Your decision should come down to which environment you prefer. If you like the LAET environment over Harris Westminster, this should be your deciding factor. Ultimately, you have no control over where you end up as it's your results that will determine where you will go, so I wouldn't worry too much about deciding on which one you want to go to right now. You'll get used to a slightly longer commute time and if LAET is the school you'd rather go to, in time, this won't even bother your. I do know someone who attends LAET and she really enjoys it there, but obviously it's a very intense academic environment. I will say that enjoying the school your in will probably motivate you to do well in your A levels, as someone who picked a lower ranked sixth form college over my secondary school, which was one of the best in my borough. As well as this, being in a school with people who are also trying to achieve good grades does motivate you more. I would suggest attending their induction days and seeing how you find the environment then, in order to make your final decision.

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Original post by hsjsjsnsjskk
I’ve received conditionals for both Harris Westminster and LAET, but I’m really not sure which to choose.
I went to LAET for the interview and I rlly like the school however I think it’s a little further to get to than Harris Westminster
At the same time, I did so much for my Harris Westminster application (there was an assessment and interview), so I’m not sure if not going would just be a waste.
Harris Westminster also performs better academically I think, but I’m not sure if this means it’s too academically challenging for me (predicteds: 99988877). LAET seems like a much more relaxed environment and I like their building much much more aswell.
Both are around an equal distance from me (LAET is a little longer) and I’m really not sure which to choose!
Could anyone (especially current students of either) help me out with which to choose?

This what a current student said on my post so am forwarding it to you this is for Laet.
Yep, what would you like to know in particular?

Upsides that I can think of is how you will always be updated on academic and career opportunities, teachers are well qualified (Oxbridge, etc if that appeals to you, though imo qualifications aren't always an accurate indicator of how well someone may teach) and generally enthusiastic, large student body so there's plenty of people to meet, studious environment is really motivating to discourage slacking and so forth. They also provide relative amounts of study support (eg after school lessons and academic coaching if you need it), as well as support for university applications (esp Oxbridge + Med applicants) and extra curriculars. Teachers encourage you to ask for help and clarification if you need it, which is definitely helpful if you need it.

Downsides are subjective and depends on your current school dynamic (if your school has sixth form). For example, the school is stricter and give less freedom compared to maybe a secondary school sixth form, let's say. You're not allowed to leave the building during break/ lunch until Year 13, and they aren't lenient on behaviour/ punctuality, etc. Also bear in mind that 4 A levels can be a heavy workload at times and you're not allowed to drop until the end of Year 12, so choose carefully and maintain time management. There's also somewhat a level of pressure and competition (not necessarily toxic), which can definitely keep you on your toes and be a good thing to prevent you from slacking, but some may find it overwhelming (and counselling is always full with a waitlist, so if mental health support for you is paramount, it might be good to reflect on th
is).

Reply 3

as an laet student, don’t come here it’s worse than you’d expect

Reply 4

Original post by valerinax
as an laet student, don’t come here it’s worse than you’d expect

I was going to say the same about hwsf lol

Reply 5

Original post by Hhhhh guuuyc
I was going to say the same about hwsf lol


in what ways?

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Original post by Hhhhh guuuyc
I was going to say the same about hwsf lol

yoo do you do histroy / RE / Economics / english lit there by any chance? what are the teachers like? is UCAS support good?

idk which school to go for within this area. do you know anything about chelsea academy?

Reply 7

Original post by throwaway346937
yoo do you do histroy / RE / Economics / english lit there by any chance? what are the teachers like? is UCAS support good?
idk which school to go for within this area. do you know anything about chelsea academy?

i do english lit at hwsf... its very independent study based and fast paced. It's very interesting but you need to be good at english lit beforehand to do it bc the jump is HUGE. no joke...
Teachers are nice, and all just want you to do your best. Just do your hw on time and they won't have a problem even if you don't put up your hand (however, they do clock if you don't so you rather start being comfy with that)
Ucas support is nice but you need to bug your mentor to speak with you. You need to be in control of your own activities towards the degree you want, the ucas mentor is just there to fill in gaps.
NO RE at hwsf.. there's philosophy but MASSIVE difference
(edited 8 months ago)

Reply 8

Original post by mishakat1ja
i do english lit at hwsf... its very independent study based and fast paced. It's very interesting but you need to be good at english lit beforehand to do it bc the jump is HUGE. no joke...
Teachers are nice, and all just want you to do your best. Just do your hw on time and they won't have a problem even if you don't put up your hand (however, they do clock if you don't so you rather start being comfy with that)
Ucas support is nice but you need to bug your mentor to speak with you. You need to be in control of your own activities towards the degree you want, the ucas mentor is just there to fill in gaps.
NO RE at hwsf.. there's philosophy but MASSIVE difference

Did you do the English entrance exam? If so, what was it like? Any advice on it? I checked the 2023 example but the question seemed kinda ambiguous on what you had to say... It said to "write about the aspects of this poem you find interesting" so what would you do? Like in essay/paragraph form? Interpretation or analysis? Idk I just need clarification on what to actually do during it!!

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Hi
For HWSF are you allowed to drop form 4 to 3 A levels?

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Original post by sch00l
Did you do the English entrance exam? If so, what was it like? Any advice on it? I checked the 2023 example but the question seemed kinda ambiguous on what you had to say... It said to

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Original post by sch00l
Did you do the English entrance exam? If so, what was it like? Any advice on it? I checked the 2023 example but the question seemed kinda ambiguous on what you had to say... It said to "write about the aspects of this poem you find interesting" so what would you do? Like in essay/paragraph form? Interpretation or analysis? Idk I just need clarification on what to actually do during it!!

Omg so annoyed they deleted my whole reply. Anyways, don’t stress about the exam. At this stage, they are testing how abstract you can go with your ideas whilst still being close to the text. Being close to the text will force you to have a structure whilst writing. If you really need to follow a structure. An intro with 3 paragraphs is a good basis but don’t limit only to 3. If you have lots of ideas, plan out and decide which ones you want to say, if you end up writing 5 paragraphs or more, DO THAT. The question is vague for a reason. Use it to your advantage and have fun with it

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Original post by A_P_ME
Hi
For HWSF are you allowed to drop form 4 to 3 A levels?

Hey , in Y12 you have to do 4 A Levels but you can drop the 4th for an EPQ. But you need a good reason for that. However, in Y13 around feb time you can drop the 4th if you are really struggling and don’t need it for uni

Reply 13

Original post by throwaway346937
yoo do you do histroy / RE / Economics / english lit there by any chance? what are the teachers like? is UCAS support good?
idk which school to go for within this area. do you know anything about chelsea academy?

Btw, if you chose not to come to HWSF, that was a good choice hehe

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Original post by mishakat1ja
Hey , in Y12 you have to do 4 A Levels but you can drop the 4th for an EPQ. But you need a good reason for that. However, in Y13 around feb time you can drop the 4th if you are really struggling and don’t need it for uni


Hi
Sorry so if I wait till the yr 13 point to drop it do I still have to do EPQ?

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As you are a current student I have a few questions I would be very grateful if you could answer. You don’t have to do all even a few would work….


1) How much is the workload?

2) How much Homework is there?

3) How supportive are the teachers?

4) How does a typical day look like? (Timings and periods etc.)

5) How much support do you get with UCAS and Oxbridge applications?

6) What is the atmosphere like in general?

7) How much freedom is given? Is it similar to high school or more like a University atmosphere?

8) Would travelling >1.5hrs to get there impact how much I can academically perform?

9) How is Saturday school? (Time consuming or helpful?)

10) Can you rate your experience form 1(lowest) to 10(highest)?

11) Any issues you came across, any surprises or problems you faced?

12) How high achieving was your cohort at the start of Sixth form?

Even an answer to a few of these questions would be helpful! Thank you in advance! Good luck to everyone!

A_P (:

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Original post by A_P_ME
Hi
Sorry so if I wait till the yr 13 point to drop it do I still have to do EPQ?

Yesss. But if you are failing the subject (if you decide to not drop and do epq) , there’s a small opening in jan/feb to drop it

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Original post by A_P_ME
As you are a current student I have a few questions I would be very grateful if you could answer. You don’t have to do all even a few would work….
1) How much is the workload?
2) How much Homework is there?
3) How supportive are the teachers?
4) How does a typical day look like? (Timings and periods etc.)
5) How much support do you get with UCAS and Oxbridge applications?
6) What is the atmosphere like in general?
7) How much freedom is given? Is it similar to high school or more like a University atmosphere?
8) Would travelling >1.5hrs to get there impact how much I can academically perform?
9) How is Saturday school? (Time consuming or helpful?)
10) Can you rate your experience form 1(lowest) to 10(highest)?
11) Any issues you came across, any surprises or problems you faced?
12) How high achieving was your cohort at the start of Sixth form?
Even an answer to a few of these questions would be helpful! Thank you in advance! Good luck to everyone!
A_P (:

1.

16 hours of homework (4 hours/subject)
Need to fit in revision, can vary between 4-8 hours depending on your subjects
Very heavy workload in the middle of Y12 but it’s okay once you have a timetable and can organise yourself properly

2.

I can say the teachers I do have are nice. But they aren’t supportive in the sense that they will catch you up if you miss lessons. Your learning is completely on you, you need to be able to grasp content quickly as they go through with it. You need to find your revision techniques, if you’re struggling - every week there’s a free afternoon where you can go to your teachers and ask for help

3.

In Y12, you have 40 x2 cultural perspectives , alongside society every week. You’re expected to join 2 clubs (usually during lunch or after school) some days can go up to 8 periods (all lessons are 40 mins, so it can be a double period or so). Y12s only have 2 frees every week, but y13 can have up to 5

4.

UCAS is very dependent on the teacher and their field. I wanted to do law and I got a fantastic teacher who was able to help me despite not doing Law for their degree. But lots of people had to chase after their teachers to read their statements and been told to not go to Oxbridge despite having the grades. So that’s up to you. But there’s loads of support for work experience and every newsletter has a new DLA opportunity for those interested

5.

Atmosphere.tense but once you find friends, it doesn’t get hard anymore.

6.

All sixth forms baby their students with detention. There’s not much freedom besides going out at lunchtime. But during Y13, there’s freedom to go out during your frees.

7.

Honestly, if you can work on your train then that’s great bc 2 hours is a lot of time… but if you don’t, it wouldn’t really affect your performance, but it would affect your sleep pattern

8.

Saturday schools is helpful when you’re learning new content that day, but usually it feels like a filler day and everyone just wants to go home

9.

5

10.

Don’t really know how to answer this. There’s been a lot of surprises but it’s usually just within the student body

11.

I’m not sure for this either. I just did my mocks and our cohort had a higher grade than last year so maybe we are quite achieving. We have a lot of oxbridge offers also

I tried my best to answer some of these. Some were answered with another so I didn’t skip any I don’t think

Reply 18

Original post by mishakat1ja

1.

16 hours of homework (4 hours/subject)
Need to fit in revision, can vary between 4-8 hours depending on your subjects
Very heavy workload in the middle of Y12 but it’s okay once you have a timetable and can organise yourself properly

2.

I can say the teachers I do have are nice. But they aren’t supportive in the sense that they will catch you up if you miss lessons. Your learning is completely on you, you need to be able to grasp content quickly as they go through with it. You need to find your revision techniques, if you’re struggling - every week there’s a free afternoon where you can go to your teachers and ask for help

3.

In Y12, you have 40 x2 cultural perspectives , alongside society every week. You’re expected to join 2 clubs (usually during lunch or after school) some days can go up to 8 periods (all lessons are 40 mins, so it can be a double period or so). Y12s only have 2 frees every week, but y13 can have up to 5

4.

UCAS is very dependent on the teacher and their field. I wanted to do law and I got a fantastic teacher who was able to help me despite not doing Law for their degree. But lots of people had to chase after their teachers to read their statements and been told to not go to Oxbridge despite having the grades. So that’s up to you. But there’s loads of support for work experience and every newsletter has a new DLA opportunity for those interested

5.

Atmosphere.tense but once you find friends, it doesn’t get hard anymore.

6.

All sixth forms baby their students with detention. There’s not much freedom besides going out at lunchtime. But during Y13, there’s freedom to go out during your frees.

7.

Honestly, if you can work on your train then that’s great bc 2 hours is a lot of time… but if you don’t, it wouldn’t really affect your performance, but it would affect your sleep pattern

8.

Saturday schools is helpful when you’re learning new content that day, but usually it feels like a filler day and everyone just wants to go home

9.

5

10.

Don’t really know how to answer this. There’s been a lot of surprises but it’s usually just within the student body

11.

I’m not sure for this either. I just did my mocks and our cohort had a higher grade than last year so maybe we are quite achieving. We have a lot of oxbridge offers also

I tried my best to answer some of these. Some were answered with another so I didn’t skip any I don’t think


Oh my god this is so helpful I can’t thank you enough!

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Original post by hsjsjsnsjskk
I’ve received conditionals for both Harris Westminster and LAET, but I’m really not sure which to choose.
I went to LAET for the interview and I rlly like the school however I think it’s a little further to get to than Harris Westminster
At the same time, I did so much for my Harris Westminster application (there was an assessment and interview), so I’m not sure if not going would just be a waste.
Harris Westminster also performs better academically I think, but I’m not sure if this means it’s too academically challenging for me (predicteds: 99988877). LAET seems like a much more relaxed environment and I like their building much much more aswell.
Both are around an equal distance from me (LAET is a little longer) and I’m really not sure which to choose!
Could anyone (especially current students of either) help me out with which to choose?


How did you prepare for the entrance exam? I’m doing biology and English literature so I would need some help with that!

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