Student wrongly accused can he ask police for help?
A rather unpleasant teacher hold other people my friend was a drug dealer, basically he's not. Long story short the teacher is not very pleasant. When I attended he tried to bribe me, you get the idea. But my friend has taken this to heart. It maybe some kind of mistake or a "joke" however my friend is not happy can he consult the police about this. It was just said i.e it's not in writing etc
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Original post by Disappointed6
A rather unpleasant teacher hold other people my friend was a drug dealer, basically he's not. Long story short the teacher is not very pleasant. When I attended he tried to bribe me, you get the idea. But my friend has taken this to heart. It maybe some kind of mistake or a "joke" however my friend is not happy can he consult the police about this. It was just said i.e it's not in writing etc
i can't give you a answer if you can't give details about what is happen i don't understand what you mean by this
No action has been taken but it's deformation of character?
I don't think privately reporting someone to the police is a defamation of character.
I mean the person who was accused even if it was a joke this is defamation to there character - can they consolt the police i.e the teacher should be careful what he says etc
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Defamation of character
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"For example, if someone makes a wrong claim about you or your business directly to you, it doesn’t qualify as defamation since there’s no third-party involvement.
However, suppose the same claim is made in a public setting or through a medium where others can observe it, such as a social media post, a review on a website, or an article. In that case, it then becomes a matter of defamation. This is because the statement can potentially harm your reputation among those who hear or read it.
It’s vital to note that not all negative statements are defamatory. The statement must be untrue and presented as a factual claim rather than an opinion to be defamation. Additionally, there must be evidence that the statement caused or has the potential to cause significant damage to the reputation of the individual or entity targeted."
Emphasis mine:
"For example, if someone makes a wrong claim about you or your business directly to you, it doesn’t qualify as defamation since there’s no third-party involvement.
However, suppose the same claim is made in a public setting or through a medium where others can observe it, such as a social media post, a review on a website, or an article. In that case, it then becomes a matter of defamation. This is because the statement can potentially harm your reputation among those who hear or read it.
It’s vital to note that not all negative statements are defamatory. The statement must be untrue and presented as a factual claim rather than an opinion to be defamation. Additionally, there must be evidence that the statement caused or has the potential to cause significant damage to the reputation of the individual or entity targeted."
What about if it was recorded in a class setting?
Doesn't sound like a police matter.
Original post by Disappointed6
What about if it was recorded in a class setting?
Recording without permission is also a crime. So that opens up a whole different kettle of fish. And would likely be inadmissable as evidence.
If I understand correctly, (and you have been vague), a teacher in a class setting said, (presumably in jest, because you don't generally want to wind up drug dealers by telling them you're shopping them in), that they were reporting someone to the police.
I think a reasonable person in that situation would think they were joking, or saying something OTT out of frustration. Quite how you could proof that it caused reuptational damange is beyond me. As above, it doesn't sound like a police matter.
Original post by Disappointed6
A rather unpleasant teacher hold other people my friend was a drug dealer, basically he's not. Long story short the teacher is not very pleasant. When I attended he tried to bribe me, you get the idea. But my friend has taken this to heart. It maybe some kind of mistake or a "joke" however my friend is not happy can he consult the police about this. It was just said i.e it's not in writing etc
The police don't have the time or resources to look into minor insults and disagreements between people.
The school/college will have a complaints procedure that your friend can use to raise this matter
Original post by Disappointed6
A rather unpleasant teacher hold other people my friend was a drug dealer, basically he's not. Long story short the teacher is not very pleasant. When I attended he tried to bribe me, you get the idea. But my friend has taken this to heart. It maybe some kind of mistake or a "joke" however my friend is not happy can he consult the police about this. It was just said i.e it's not in writing etc
I would follow the schools complaints procedure for this as it will fall under teacher misconduct. The police won’t do anything as it’s definitely civil. If it was said and not in writing and there were witnesses that will support your complaint incase the teacher tries to deny it. - I don’t know how old you are but I would reccomend getting parents involved.
Thanks everyone for your replies. I will just add the teacher is a scum bag and tried to bribe me when I attended the course, turned up for lessons with a red face. His colleague was sacked for looking at porn. He is the lowest of the low and any teacher who doesn't expect to be recorded at the very least with a dictaphone type device in this day and age is a fool
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Original post by Disappointed6
Thanks everyone for your replies. I will just add the teacher is a scum bag and tried to bribe me when I attended the course, turned up for lessons with a red face. His colleague was sacked for looking at porn. He is the lowest of the low and any teacher who doesn't expect to be recorded at the very least with a dictaphone type device in this day and age is a fool
How did he try to bribe you?
Original post by Disappointed6
Thanks everyone for your replies. I will just add the teacher is a scum bag and tried to bribe me when I attended the course, turned up for lessons with a red face. His colleague was sacked for looking at porn. He is the lowest of the low and any teacher who doesn't expect to be recorded at the very least with a dictaphone type device in this day and age is a fool
Recording people without their permission in such circumstances is still a pretty big nono, especially in such frankly petty circumstances as this.
This is starting to just sound a bit silly isn't it? you talk of his colleague getting sacked for porn as if that's somehow this teachers fault, but in the next breath you still label them the lowest of the low because they made a joke you don't like. So to be clear, jokes you don't like are worse than getting sacked for porn in your wet eyes? 😅
Original post by striderhort
Recording people without their permission in such circumstances is still a pretty big nono, especially in such frankly petty circumstances as this.
This is starting to just sound a bit silly isn't it? you talk of his colleague getting sacked for porn as if that's somehow this teachers fault, but in the next breath you still label them the lowest of the low because they made a joke you don't like. So to be clear, jokes you don't like are worse than getting sacked for porn in your wet eyes? 😅
This is starting to just sound a bit silly isn't it? you talk of his colleague getting sacked for porn as if that's somehow this teachers fault, but in the next breath you still label them the lowest of the low because they made a joke you don't like. So to be clear, jokes you don't like are worse than getting sacked for porn in your wet eyes? 😅
Yeah so a teacher getting sacked for looking at porn is ok and so is insulting students 🙄 Turning up with a red face is ok ??? Bribing students is ok ??? All a bit silly isn't it ???
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Original post by Disappointed6
Yeah so a teacher getting sacked for looking at porn is ok and so is insulting students 🙄 Turning up with a red face is ok ??? Bribing students is ok ??? All a bit silly isn't it ???
'A teacher getting sacked for porn is ok'
What a preposterous opinion to try and attribute to me. You're the one trying to equate workplace pornography to a joke you didn't like 🥲
Still a bit baffled at the red face comment tbh. What’s the inference there?
My point is with your comment is there is a catalogue of bad behaviour here and saying O that's silly - this is going to end badly and everyone who should of done something and didn't is going to say O we didn't know it's not our fault.
Original post by Disappointed6
A rather unpleasant teacher hold other people my friend was a drug dealer, basically he's not. Long story short the teacher is not very pleasant. When I attended he tried to bribe me, you get the idea. But my friend has taken this to heart. It maybe some kind of mistake or a "joke" however my friend is not happy can he consult the police about this. It was just said i.e it's not in writing etc
Your friend can consult the police all he likes. But don't expect them to do anything This is not a crime, this is gossip. If your friend has an issue he should raise it with another teacher or head of department in the first instance to verify if indeed he said such things. Then leave it with the school or college to deal with it according to their protocols for standards of behaviour.
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