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Old criminal convictions ?

Does anyone have any old convictions they are worried will be held against them , I’ve had a couple of follow up emails about mine it was a silly mistake I made as a kid can they really let this effect my future?

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Original post by Megladon99
Does anyone have any old convictions they are worried will be held against them , I’ve had a couple of follow up emails about mine it was a silly mistake I made as a kid can they really let this effect my future?


i think it depends on how bad of a thing you did, and what sort of job you wanna work in
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Original post by maisie290
i think it depends on how bad of a thing you did, and what sort of job you wanna work in


I was 18 having an autistic meltdown and I hit the police officer who pinned me while I was reaching for my inhaler. He shouted weapon and four more officers ran at me so I got scaring and started flailing like a fish 😂 I want to be a children’s nurse I’m now 25 and I paid my fine and have completely grown up learned as a young black person if I’m going to reach for something to calmly announce what I’m doing and if police arrive hands on my head innocent or guilty.
Original post by Megladon99
I was 18 having an autistic meltdown and I hit the police officer who pinned me while I was reaching for my inhaler. He shouted weapon and four more officers ran at me so I got scaring and started flailing like a fish 😂 I want to be a children’s nurse I’m now 25 and I paid my fine and have completely grown up learned as a young black person if I’m going to reach for something to calmly announce what I’m doing and if police arrive hands on my head innocent or guilty.


aw i’m sorry that happened to you, seen as it was long ago and of course hitting a police officer is serious but i think in the circumstances you were in it shouldn’t be a problem and i hope your successful in becoming a child nurse🤞🏼 i’m not an expert so i’m not sure but that’s just what i think
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Yes and no, to affecting your future. It absolutely depends what it was for, when you got it and what youre applying for.
i.e. police dont look fondly on records, a pharmacist with a reputation for theft or drug dealing, anything and nat-sec etc.
On the other hand, my former manager had someone with a murder conviction he gave the job to so yeah, how long is a piece of string?
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Original post by Megladon99
I was 18 having an autistic meltdown and I hit the police officer who pinned me while I was reaching for my inhaler. He shouted weapon and four more officers ran at me so I got scaring and started flailing like a fish 😂 I want to be a children’s nurse I’m now 25 and I paid my fine and have completely grown up learned as a young black person if I’m going to reach for something to calmly announce what I’m doing and if police arrive hands on my head innocent or guilty.

Did you actually get a conviction though or a warning, discharge etc?
In either case, my string comment applies but given what youve said i dont imagine theyd care very much so long as you fronted it with the hiring manager.
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Original post by Napp
Did you actually get a conviction though or a warning, discharge etc?
In either case, my string comment applies but given what youve said i dont imagine theyd care very much so long as you fronted it with the hiring manager.


I got a conditional discharge, I was told no trouble for 12 months which I never would EVER and an £100 fine. I declared it to all the universities. I’m just worried about it.
You haven’t said what the specific conviction was for, but it sounds like some form of assault.

This would be a seen as a potential safeguarding risk, so yes, this could be an issue.
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Original post by Gazpacho.
You haven’t said what the specific conviction was for, but it sounds like some form of assault.
This would be a seen as a potential safeguarding risk, so yes, this could be an issue.


It was assault on two armed officers
This is why DBS and all that other nonsense should be scrapped and replaced with something more sensible.
Original post by TheStupidMoon
This is why DBS and all that other nonsense should be scrapped and replaced with something more sensible.

Why? what's the issue? If someone has had issues that led to them losing control and attacking under stress that's exactly the sort of thing I'd want to know and consider if they were wanting to be employed to care for children or the vulnerable, isn't protecting such people from potential abuse and violence kind of the entire point of the dbs and disclosure system?
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Original post by StriderHort
Why? what's the issue? If someone has had issues that led to them losing control and attacking under stress that's exactly the sort of thing I'd want to know and consider if they were wanting to be employed to care for children or the vulnerable, isn't protecting such people from potential abuse and violence kind of the entire point of the dbs and disclosure system?


I lost control because 8 giant men were coming towards me to grab me , I was in a severely abuse relationship and had come out of hospital the day before and my autistic meltdowns at the time were unstable at times.
Original post by Megladon99
I lost control because 8 giant men were coming towards me to grab me , I was in a severely abuse relationship and had come out of hospital the day before and my autistic meltdowns at the time were unstable at times.

I'm not trying to have a go at you for the event and I'd hope an employer would take circumstances and time into account, but I do feel in general it's the sort of thing that should be disclosed to employers where people would be in your care.
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Original post by StriderHort
I'm not trying to have a go at you for the event and I'd hope an employer would take circumstances and time into account, but I do feel in general it's the sort of thing that should be disclosed to employers where people would be in your care.


I disclosed everything I’ve filled out all the forms it just terrifies me they will look at a mistake from years ago and think I’m the same person
Original post by StriderHort
Why? what's the issue? If someone has had issues that led to them losing control and attacking under stress that's exactly the sort of thing I'd want to know and consider if they were wanting to be employed to care for children or the vulnerable, isn't protecting such people from potential abuse and violence kind of the entire point of the dbs and disclosure system?

I skimmed past the childrens nurse part but I have heard thatDBS and CRB release information where it isn't a position with the vulnerable or with higher security such as a bank. "Claires" law is another example of bad law like this.
Original post by TheStupidMoon
I skimmed past the childrens nurse part but I have heard thatDBS and CRB release information where it isn't a position with the vulnerable or with higher security such as a bank. "Claires" law is another example of bad law like this.

Mneh, yes and no imo

Whether a position is deemed to require such checks is down to the employer or regulation not the DBS/CRB themselves and its the employers/users who keep trying to push these boundaries of what they have a right to know. changing to a new system wouldn't prevent this.

One big issue that admittedly developed was companies deciding that if an employee had access to customer data, that meant they logically had access to vulnerable peoples data and they wanted the checks on those grounds. I'm not sure how that went but I hear a lot less about it now and I think a lot of employers got told to knock it off as it was considered abusing the system, I certainly don't see as many 'standard' jobs with the DBS/disclosure requests as I used to.

What's the issue with Clare's law? afaik It only affects the privacy of people already known for similar offences and the police make a choice what information if any they will disclose, they don't hand over a copy of someone's record to a 3rd party. The potential for abuse (such as someone publishing the info to harass) seems minimal and I'm not aware of any specific instances, are you?
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A little update - I didn’t realise that because I have a foster son my advanced DBS is all in order and the universities have all been very good about it I had a zoom call today and they wanted to discuss how I felt about my domestic violence past and how I interacted with police officers now and if my experience with them left me with any fears or concerns towards working with them. They were more concerned with my mental health and wellbeing and emotions than my capabilities.
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Original post by StriderHort
Mneh, yes and no imo
Whether a position is deemed to require such checks is down to the employer or regulation not the DBS/CRB themselves and its the employers/users who keep trying to push these boundaries of what they have a right to know. changing to a new system wouldn't prevent this.
One big issue that admittedly developed was companies deciding that if an employee had access to customer data, that meant they logically had access to vulnerable peoples data and they wanted the checks on those grounds. I'm not sure how that went but I hear a lot less about it now and I think a lot of employers got told to knock it off as it was considered abusing the system, I certainly don't see as many 'standard' jobs with the DBS/disclosure requests as I used to.
What's the issue with Clare's law? afaik It only affects the privacy of people already known for similar offences and the police make a choice what information if any they will disclose, they don't hand over a copy of someone's record to a 3rd party. The potential for abuse (such as someone publishing the info to harass) seems minimal and I'm not aware of any specific instances, are you?


In my situation the only person put on the Claire’s law list was my ex boyfriend.
Original post by Megladon99
I was 18 having an autistic meltdown and I hit the police officer who pinned me while I was reaching for my inhaler. He shouted weapon and four more officers ran at me so I got scaring and started flailing like a fish 😂 I want to be a children’s nurse I’m now 25 and I paid my fine and have completely grown up learned as a young black person if I’m going to reach for something to calmly announce what I’m doing and if police arrive hands on my head innocent or guilty.

Ugh, I'm deeply sorry. From what you've described, I really think it's an absolute travesty and injustice that you were prosecuted for this.
Original post by anarchism101
Ugh, I'm deeply sorry. From what you've described, I really think it's an absolute travesty and injustice that you were prosecuted for this.

C'mon you can't hit cops or really anyone without consequence, meltdown or no. Considering the result was a conditional discharge and a small fine rather than the max year in prison I think it's obvious they took the circumstances heavily into account. You must be aware they're all pretty zero tolerance about attacks on emergency & state workers these days?

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