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FA Cup Replays Scrapped!

"FA Cup replays will be scrapped from the first round onwards in the 2024-25 competition.All rounds of the Emirates FA Cup will also be played on weekends, including the fifth round which has been played in midweek for the past five seasons."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68844583

This is for the FA Cup proper, not the qualifiers. Amongst other changes is moving the FA Cup Final to before the end of the Premier League season.

It's an agreement between the Football Association (FA) and the Premier League, with them claiming all parties were in agreement, but EFL and non-league clubs say there was no formal consultation with them and they are against the changes.

For lower league clubs, replays can provide a much-needed income, but what about if you draw at home and now miss out on the chance to play at a huge stadium you'd never otherwise get to visit? What about the reverse; big team can't beat you and you take them back to your place and can say "we had Arsenal/Man City/Liverpool on our pitch!"

Should the FA and Premier League make these changes that suit just a handful of top-flight clubs? Shouldn't we keep 'the Magic of the FA Cup'?
Reply 1
Original post by Surnia
"FA Cup replays will be scrapped from the first round onwards in the 2024-25 competition.All rounds of the Emirates FA Cup will also be played on weekends, including the fifth round which has been played in midweek for the past five seasons."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68844583
This is for the FA Cup proper, not the qualifiers. Amongst other changes is moving the FA Cup Final to before the end of the Premier League season.
It's an agreement between the Football Association (FA) and the Premier League, with them claiming all parties were in agreement, but EFL and non-league clubs say there was no formal consultation with them and they are against the changes.
For lower league clubs, replays can provide a much-needed income, but what about if you draw at home and now miss out on the chance to play at a huge stadium you'd never otherwise get to visit? What about the reverse; big team can't beat you and you take them back to your place and can say "we had Arsenal/Man City/Liverpool on our pitch!"
Should the FA and Premier League make these changes that suit just a handful of top-flight clubs? Shouldn't we keep 'the Magic of the FA Cup'?

there would be more magic with one game wouldn't there?
imagine a lg2 team facing a prem or championship side and drawing and then having to play again - the opponent will be back fresher and ruin them as opposed to the lg2 team having a good chance with pens
I'm glad they have got rid of FA Cup replays. The football calendar is already too congested without needing pointless replays and two legged semi-finals for the league cup etc.

There are other ways to compensate small clubs than needing extra games.
Reply 3
Original post by Zerforax
I'm glad they have got rid of FA Cup replays. The football calendar is already too congested without needing pointless replays and two legged semi-finals for the league cup etc.
There are other ways to compensate small clubs than needing extra games.

Too congested for who, Bournemouth, Fulham, Blackburn Rovers, Stockport County? No, a small number of Premier League teams who play in Europe; haven't they got the squad size to cope with that?

How is a replay pointless; if you've got a draw away from home at a higher-placed team, why shouldn't you have an advantage in trying to get through to the next round?
Reply 4
Original post by hh1209
there would be more magic with one game wouldn't there?
imagine a lg2 team facing a prem or championship side and drawing and then having to play again - the opponent will be back fresher and ruin them as opposed to the lg2 team having a good chance with pens

But isn't it magic that the fans of that Lge 2 team get to travel to a Premier League ground, or see a Premier League team at their League 2 ground, something that might never happen again?
Good, replays were stupid and just a money grab by the smaller teams that can’t justify their existence without handouts from forcing big clubs to play.

In any other line of business including charities these would be Zombie businesses that would have died out.
Reply 6
Original post by Little pecker
Good, replays were stupid and just a money grab by the smaller teams that can’t justify their existence without handouts from forcing big clubs to play.
In any other line of business including charities these would be Zombie businesses that would have died out.

It's not just smaller teams that have replays; it's also denying other teams an opportunity to play in Europe as Cup winners.

Anyway, aren't the big teams agreeing to this to get money from European competition and aren't a lot of them running at a loss and breaking financial rules?
(edited 4 weeks ago)
Reply 7
@hh1209
@Zerforax
@Little pecker

What football teams do you support?
Original post by Surnia
It's not just smaller teams that have replays; it's also denying other teams an opportunity to play in Europe as Cup winners.
Anyway, aren't the big teams agreeing to this to get money from European competition and aren't a lot of them running at a loss and breaking financial rules?

How does it deny someone the chance to get in Europe?
Reply 9
Original post by Little pecker
How does it deny someone the chance to get in Europe?

The FA Cup winner qualifies for Europe.
Original post by Surnia
The FA Cup winner qualifies for Europe.

Has that changed???
Original post by Surnia
Too congested for who, Bournemouth, Fulham, Blackburn Rovers, Stockport County? No, a small number of Premier League teams who play in Europe; haven't they got the squad size to cope with that?
How is a replay pointless; if you've got a draw away from home at a higher-placed team, why shouldn't you have an advantage in trying to get through to the next round?

Because football is about winning a game on the day. Just use extra time and penalties to decide.

Name me another competition that uses replays? We dont use it in internationals, we dont use in the league, we dont use in European competitions or club world championship etc.
Original post by Surnia
But isn't it magic that the fans of that Lge 2 team get to travel to a Premier League ground, or see a Premier League team at their League 2 ground, something that might never happen again?

No. The "magic of the FA cup" is just branding nonsense to try and make fans care about a competition which is no longer valued as much as it once was.
Reply 13
Original post by Surnia
@hh1209
@Zerforax
@Little pecker
What football teams do you support?

Man utd
Original post by Surnia
"FA Cup replays will be scrapped from the first round onwards in the 2024-25 competition.All rounds of the Emirates FA Cup will also be played on weekends, including the fifth round which has been played in midweek for the past five seasons."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68844583
This is for the FA Cup proper, not the qualifiers. Amongst other changes is moving the FA Cup Final to before the end of the Premier League season.
It's an agreement between the Football Association (FA) and the Premier League, with them claiming all parties were in agreement, but EFL and non-league clubs say there was no formal consultation with them and they are against the changes.
For lower league clubs, replays can provide a much-needed income, but what about if you draw at home and now miss out on the chance to play at a huge stadium you'd never otherwise get to visit? What about the reverse; big team can't beat you and you take them back to your place and can say "we had Arsenal/Man City/Liverpool on our pitch!"
Should the FA and Premier League make these changes that suit just a handful of top-flight clubs? Shouldn't we keep 'the Magic of the FA Cup'?

Yes the changes should occur. Think carefully about fixture congestion, let alone scheduling and the broadcasting and television fees a company makes. UEFA club competition is expanding to 36 teams meaning more games than usual. Games whether that’s in the FA Cup, Champions League or Europa League or even the Conference League go into extra time meaning 120 minutes of football been playing with potential penalties and then domestic matches 72 hours after with only 48 hours recovery. Smaller squads and lack of depth results in injuries.
(edited 3 weeks ago)

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