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Is EPQ Essential For Medicine ?

I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.

Here are my questions:

Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?

Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?

If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?




Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊

Reply 1

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Reply 2

I can’t say much for medicine specifically but I know an EPQ is not a game changer for most universities and courses

Reply 3

Original post by Dalinar
I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.
Here are my questions:
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?
If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?
Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊


To put it simply, nope the EPQ is not at all essential for a med application and it’s not an unspoken rule either ! Most uni websites state on their med pages that they do not consider the EPQ in the application process, so it’s just an extra, the same as when you talk about work experience or volunteering etc.

It basically just gives u a little extra to talk about at interview/ personal statement but you definitely don’t need it to well or secure a place. It won’t impact your application much unless you wanted to apply to Sheffield where they reduce the med offer from AAA to AAB if you achieve an A/A* in your EPQ. Not many unis offer the alternative grade requirement, I think Keele reduce the A*AA to AAA but if you’re not interested in applying there then dropping the EPQ won’t impact your application negatively dont worry !!

Reply 4

Original post by sophiahh
To put it simply, nope the EPQ is not at all essential for a med application and it’s not an unspoken rule either ! Most uni websites state on their med pages that they do not consider the EPQ in the application process, so it’s just an extra, the same as when you talk about work experience or volunteering etc.
It basically just gives u a little extra to talk about at interview/ personal statement but you definitely don’t need it to well or secure a place. It won’t impact your application much unless you wanted to apply to Sheffield where they reduce the med offer from AAA to AAB if you achieve an A/A* in your EPQ. Not many unis offer the alternative grade requirement, I think Keele reduce the A*AA to AAA but if you’re not interested in applying there then dropping the EPQ won’t impact your application negatively dont worry !!


Phew. Thank you. That's a relief.
No, I think most medical schools don't even use it when setting offers, and fewer still i think give reduced offers.

The only situation i think it's worth doing an EPQ is if the project was something you were going to do anyway and the EPQ is just a way to write it up.

Reply 6

Original post by Dalinar
I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.
Here are my questions:
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?
If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?
Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊

"Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?"

No

"If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?"

Not disadvantaged at all for a majority of universities
Most shortlist for interview based on all or a combination of A-levels, UCAT/BMAT & GCSEs. No other factors are considered.

Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?

Not even in the slightest.

I highly recommend you begin researching about medical schools' admissions & interview shortlisting criteria because it's clear that you haven't. You should've researched beforehand so you don't end up making A-level choices thinking they have clear merit for admissions when at best it's inconclusive.

Reply 7

Original post by Upbeat8392
"Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?"
No
"If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?"
Not disadvantaged at all for a majority of universities
Most shortlist for interview based on all or a combination of A-levels, UCAT/BMAT & GCSEs. No other factors are considered.
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Not even in the slightest.
I highly recommend you begin researching about medical schools' admissions & interview shortlisting criteria because it's clear that you haven't. You should've researched beforehand so you don't end up making A-level choices thinking they have clear merit for admissions when at best it's inconclusive.


Thanks for the detailed reply 🙏🙏.

Our school forced us to take epq 🙄.

I haven't made good progress so im trying to drop it. I was just worried that if I drop it, my application would be less competitive than the people who git a good grade in it.

Reply 8

Original post by Dalinar
I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.
Here are my questions:
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?
If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?
Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊

No it isn’t, but please please revise your UCAT and BMAT to get excellent results!!

Reply 9

Original post by Dalinar
I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.
Here are my questions:
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?
If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?
Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊

Hey current med student here that came from a school that made the EPQ mandatory.

1) No it won't hinder your application competitiveness.
2) No
3) No

But from my experience, the EPQ has helped a lot. All my med friends have thought so too. We put it in our personal statement and during the MMI mentioned it at at least 3/6 stations. It shows commitment, that extra length of curiosity, and a genuine interest in med. Have friends that got into Kings, Imperial, UCL, and QMUL (lol me ig). I know that balancing the UCAT and writing your first essay draft in the summer is kinda daunting but I promise you that the EPQ gives you a little break (in the long term) from all your subject stress and doing one on Medicine is one of the simplest (and all of us who did one on med got an A*). I was able to go in-depth abt my topic of choice and talk to doctors (when I shadowed) about it (mentioned this in my interview too). Hope this helps!

Oh yeah had to add this. 2023 results day = kinda harsh. The grade boundaries went up quite drastically and a lot of my med friends didn't get the grades for their offers but because of an A* in EPQ their offers were confirmed anyway (compensates ig?)
(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 10

Original post by Dalinar
I'm thinking of dropping EPQ because I feel like I'm gonna get a bad grade, and I've not done much. I want to apply to Kings College London Imperial, UCL, and Queen Mary's.
Here are my questions:
Will it significantly hinder my application's competitiveness for medicine?
Is an "unspoken rule" that says it is basically essential for applicants to have good EPQ grades ?
If I have good predicted grades, a good UCAT score, and a good personal statement, BUT NO EPQ, would I be massively disadvantaged ?
Thank you all for your guidance 🙏 🙌 😊

Also dropped the EPQ for the same reason and it deffo didn't hinder my application (also got an offer from qmul). Like others said the most important thing to work on is UCAT as most schools place a large emphasis on that for deciding interview invites. Overall I'm don't regret dropping EPQ as it gave me more time to focus on A levels and I only took it thinking it would be a make or break for my application.

Reply 11

Original post by Dalinar
Thanks for the detailed reply 🙏🙏.
Our school forced us to take epq 🙄.
I haven't made good progress so im trying to drop it. I was just worried that if I drop it, my application would be less competitive than the people who git a good grade in it.

Sorry for assuming you chose to take it lol

Reply 12

Original post by ee298
Also dropped the EPQ for the same reason and it deffo didn't hinder my application (also got an offer from qmul). Like others said the most important thing to work on is UCAT as most schools place a large emphasis on that for deciding interview invites. Overall I'm don't regret dropping EPQ as it gave me more time to focus on A levels and I only took it thinking it would be a make or break for my application.

hi i also want to apply for med at qmul but my gcse arent the strongest (grade 6s) how much do they way gcse's?

Reply 13

So I'm in a vaguely similar situation, but the thing is I really want to do an epq - my application was rejected due to my poor punctuality. Which medical schools actually look at EPQs and use them to place offers? Does it count as part of your academic grades? I dropped further maths because I believed the time would be better spent doing an EPQ, but now that I'm not doing either I feel like I'm not doing enough for my medical application.

I apologise for the bombarding of questions - I recognise that I should be doing my own research on this, but due to time constraints (I'm debating whether I should ask my EPQ application to be reconsidered for about the 5th time or so in person), any top-of-the-head advice is something I would be really thankful for.

Reply 14

Original post by unsure-student
So I'm in a vaguely similar situation, but the thing is I really want to do an epq - my application was rejected due to my poor punctuality. Which medical schools actually look at EPQs and use them to place offers? Does it count as part of your academic grades? I dropped further maths because I believed the time would be better spent doing an EPQ, but now that I'm not doing either I feel like I'm not doing enough for my medical application.
I apologise for the bombarding of questions - I recognise that I should be doing my own research on this, but due to time constraints (I'm debating whether I should ask my EPQ application to be reconsidered for about the 5th time or so in person), any top-of-the-head advice is something I would be really thankful for.

Well the thing is a lot of unis don’t use UCAS points so doing an EPQ is pointless if you’re applying to those unis. And I am honestly 100% certain uni will not give a ****, especially for medicine they aren’t gonna lower your offer for how competitive medicine is so it’s a waste of time and focus on getting As and A* cause that’s all they want. Oh and a good personal statement, read books watch lectures get as much experience relevant experience as possible.

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