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Edinburgh or Saint Andrews for economics

Hello, I hope you are all well. Just a quick question about which university is academically better in economics? I find it hard to know because Saint Andrews is systematically not ranked highly(in international ranking) due to its small size. However, I hear that Saint Andrews is the 3rd or 4th best university in the UK from quite a few people. What is really the case from the point of view of people living in the UK? If you have any feedback on the economics departments of these two universities it would be great!
Thanks in advance for your feedback
Reply 1
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk states that Edinburgh has research quality of 82% for Economics and St Andrews has 74%. 91% of Economics graduates from Edinburgh are currently doing something related to their future plans, 84% at St Andrews. St Andrews manages to get higher than Edinburgh overall for this subject because of entry standards and student satisfaction. Because St Andrews is a much smaller university, and because it is increasingly popular, they can afford to ask for higher grades sometimes than Edinburgh because St Andrews won't have any trouble filling spaces because they're well known in America as a very old, attractive, quaint looking, more affordable, alternative to somewhere similar looking like Princeton. St Andrews require ABB minimum (based on A-Level there) but at present AAA is usually the typical entry standard. Edinburgh seem to be less easy to find what their minimum or typical entry standard are.

It's not just size that hinders St Andrews QS rankings. Edinburgh is just technically academically better overall anyway. 76% of Edinburgh's staff conduct high quality research, with an average quality standard of 85%. At St Andrews it's 71% of staff and 83% quality.

So why do so many people go on about St Andrews when the likes of Lancaster, Sheffield, Bath, Southampton, Bristol and KCL are technically better in research?
Because it looks pretty, because of its traditions, because it's very old and respected enough to get noticed, because its relatively small size and the nature of the place mean some people say it's like joining a family, because of who it attracts. 40% of its intake are from private schools, more than any other UK university.
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Original post by Picnicl
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk states that Edinburgh has research quality of 82% for Economics and St Andrews has 74%.

I chose Edinburgh for economics
Reply 3
Original post by Picnicl
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk states that Edinburgh has research quality of 82% for Economics and St Andrews has 74%. 91% of Economics graduates from Edinburgh are currently doing something related to their future plans, 84% at St Andrews. St Andrews manages to get higher than Edinburgh overall for this subject because of entry standards and student satisfaction. Because St Andrews is a much smaller university, and because it is increasingly popular, they can afford to ask for higher grades sometimes than Edinburgh because St Andrews won't have any trouble filling spaces because they're well known in America as a very old, attractive, quaint looking, more affordable, alternative to somewhere similar looking like Princeton. St Andrews require ABB minimum (based on A-Level there) but at present AAA is usually the typical entry standard. Edinburgh seem to be less easy to find what their minimum or typical entry standard are.
It's not just size that hinders St Andrews QS rankings. Edinburgh is just technically academically better overall anyway. 76% of Edinburgh's staff conduct high quality research, with an average quality standard of 85%. At St Andrews it's 71% of staff and 83% quality.
So why do so many people go on about St Andrews when the likes of Lancaster, Sheffield, Bath, Southampton, Bristol and KCL are technically better in research?
Because it looks pretty, because of its traditions, because it's very old and respected enough to get noticed, because its relatively small size and the nature of the place mean some people say it's like joining a family, because of who it attracts. 40% of its intake are from private schools, more than any other UK university.
Figures on private school intake from last year show St Andrews on 36%, Edinburgh on 31.8% (Durham on 39%).
Reply 4
Original post by S1098
Figures on private school intake from last year show St Andrews on 36%, Edinburgh on 31.8% (Durham on 39%).

Yez I read Durham are on 39%. St Andrews were on 40% recently.
Reply 5
Original post by Picnicl
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk states that Edinburgh has research quality of 82% for Economics and St Andrews has 74%. 91% of Economics graduates from Edinburgh are currently doing something related to their future plans, 84% at St Andrews. St Andrews manages to get higher than Edinburgh overall for this subject because of entry standards and student satisfaction. Because St Andrews is a much smaller university, and because it is increasingly popular, they can afford to ask for higher grades sometimes than Edinburgh because St Andrews won't have any trouble filling spaces because they're well known in America as a very old, attractive, quaint looking, more affordable, alternative to somewhere similar looking like Princeton. St Andrews require ABB minimum (based on A-Level there) but at present AAA is usually the typical entry standard. Edinburgh seem to be less easy to find what their minimum or typical entry standard are.
It's not just size that hinders St Andrews QS rankings. Edinburgh is just technically academically better overall anyway. 76% of Edinburgh's staff conduct high quality research, with an average quality standard of 85%. At St Andrews it's 71% of staff and 83% quality.
So why do so many people go on about St Andrews when the likes of Lancaster, Sheffield, Bath, Southampton, Bristol and KCL are technically better in research?
Because it looks pretty, because of its traditions, because it's very old and respected enough to get noticed, because its relatively small size and the nature of the place mean some people say it's like joining a family, because of who it attracts. 40% of its intake are from private schools, more than any other UK university.

Thank you so much for your answer. From this table we can also see that even if Saint Andrews conduct less high quality research, they are higher overall( 6 vs 12). My question is whether this will be an advantage if I want to go to oxbridge for a master's in economics or whether the two universities will give me the same chances of getting in with equivalent grade. Thank you in advance and I'm sorry if these questions might sound stupid, but I'm not very familiar with the UK system.
Off topic but anyone else here who interviewed for phd in business department? How long do they take to announce result and what are the chances of acceptance?
Reply 7
Original post by Anonymous
Thank you so much for your answer. From this table we can also see that even if Saint Andrews conduct less high quality research, they are higher overall( 6 vs 12). My question is whether this will be an advantage if I want to go to oxbridge for a master's in economics or whether the two universities will give me the same chances of getting in with equivalent grade. Thank you in advance and I'm sorry if these questions might sound stupid, but I'm not very familiar with the UK system.

No difference to that where you go as far as I can see but St Andrews will likely feel the most 'Oxbridge-like' in atmosphere but remember that St Andrews can be or feel quiet. Dundee is 30 mins away.
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