False plagiarism
Dear student room team,
I've been falsely accused of plagiarism,
Basically I did an assessment, doing some research on the website...
My sources , (different newspapers)
BBC, observer, the times, and so on....
Well at the time of get marks....
Turnitin said that my similarity report was high...
Around 60%
And I've been accused of plagiarism and get a misconduct email.
How unfair is that....
As I read because similarity it's not clear that a student have cheated, or copied another student work.
How's possible that because a software says this similarity you get a fail.
This is a all levels so unfair.
I'm trying to file an appeal.
Because just me knows the time I've spend doing the assessment.
Don't know if anyone have ever feel the same towards the system ..but things have to change.
I've been falsely accused of plagiarism,
Basically I did an assessment, doing some research on the website...
My sources , (different newspapers)
BBC, observer, the times, and so on....
Well at the time of get marks....
Turnitin said that my similarity report was high...
Around 60%
And I've been accused of plagiarism and get a misconduct email.
How unfair is that....
As I read because similarity it's not clear that a student have cheated, or copied another student work.
How's possible that because a software says this similarity you get a fail.
This is a all levels so unfair.
I'm trying to file an appeal.
Because just me knows the time I've spend doing the assessment.
Don't know if anyone have ever feel the same towards the system ..but things have to change.
Hi there,
Just to clarify, did you cite each source you used? I would definitely recommend speaking to your lecturer about this. The system may have made an error.
Regards,
Narusha
Coventry University Student Ambassador
Just to clarify, did you cite each source you used? I would definitely recommend speaking to your lecturer about this. The system may have made an error.
Regards,
Narusha
Coventry University Student Ambassador
(edited 1 year ago)
Reply 2
If you are innocent you have nothing to worry about.
The software is not accusing you of misconduct, it has referred your high similarity % to a member of staff and they have decided to start the misconduct process.
The software is not accusing you of misconduct, it has referred your high similarity % to a member of staff and they have decided to start the misconduct process.
Reply 3
Original post by StriderHort
If you are innocent you have nothing to worry about.
The software is not accusing you of misconduct, it has referred your high similarity % to a member of staff and they have decided to start the misconduct process.
The software is not accusing you of misconduct, it has referred your high similarity % to a member of staff and they have decided to start the misconduct process.
I'm sorry I do have to worry, because at first they just mark my essay as fail, "0", zero,....
Being honest there is nothing I can do...I'm like 2 months sending emails to retention, student support,......
From my position I know that I didn't cheat....
There is a similarity report from turnitin saying my similarity percentage and the majority of lecturers base the essay marks on that reports ....
The system need to change....
It's just unfair in all levels
Turnitin only checks for similarity, not plagiarism. It's likely you've just been notified that the % was high enough to warrant a manual review for potential misconduct. Nothing may come of it.
However, as it's the first stage of a formal process, all the communications around it need to be standardised so that you understand what will happen next, as well as your rights.
If you are worried, speak to your student union.
However, as it's the first stage of a formal process, all the communications around it need to be standardised so that you understand what will happen next, as well as your rights.
If you are worried, speak to your student union.
Reply 5
Original post by Lariochico
I'm sorry I do have to worry, because at first they just mark my essay as fail, "0", zero,....
Being honest there is nothing I can do...I'm like 2 months sending emails to retention, student support,......
From my position I know that I didn't cheat....
There is a similarity report from turnitin saying my similarity percentage and the majority of lecturers base the essay marks on that reports ....
The system need to change....
It's just unfair in all levels
Being honest there is nothing I can do...I'm like 2 months sending emails to retention, student support,......
From my position I know that I didn't cheat....
There is a similarity report from turnitin saying my similarity percentage and the majority of lecturers base the essay marks on that reports ....
The system need to change....
It's just unfair in all levels
Seems a strange position tbh, If I'd done my work honestly I'd be confident in explaining and proving my process if queried.
You're claiming it's all unfair and the system has to change etc, but you're not offering any reason why the similarity has been this high?
Reply 6
Original post by StriderHort
Seems a strange position tbh, If I'd done my work honestly I'd be confident in explaining and proving my process if queried.
You're claiming it's all unfair and the system has to change etc, but you're not offering any reason why the similarity has been this high?
You're claiming it's all unfair and the system has to change etc, but you're not offering any reason why the similarity has been this high?
Excuse me strider hot, my job it's done already when I've submit my assessment, some lecturers are the ones who stick to whatever Turnitin says and they even never read the student assessment.
And you tell me how do you want me to prove them wrong ...
I'm a student...I can Just send emails to retention, to student support and that's it....
Next step would be bring them to the court.
(Is what they deserve)
But I can't do anything else..
And I'm telling you that I didn't copy any other student work....
I know it I did some research about the topics on different news , newspapers and later on I referenced every single one.
And just like that ....Turnitin says that my similarity it's high...(Next????? Yessss correct I got a zero , "0" , fail....
Because Turnitin says so.
Original post by Lariochico
Excuse me strider hot, my job it's done already when I've submit my assessment, some lecturers are the ones who stick to whatever Turnitin says and they even never read the student assessment.
And you tell me how do you want me to prove them wrong ...
I'm a student...I can Just send emails to retention, to student support and that's it....
Next step would be bring them to the court.
(Is what they deserve)
But I can't do anything else..
And I'm telling you that I didn't copy any other student work....
I know it I did some research about the topics on different news , newspapers and later on I referenced every single one.
And just like that ....Turnitin says that my similarity it's high...(Next????? Yessss correct I got a zero , "0" , fail....
Because Turnitin says so.
And you tell me how do you want me to prove them wrong ...
I'm a student...I can Just send emails to retention, to student support and that's it....
Next step would be bring them to the court.
(Is what they deserve)
But I can't do anything else..
And I'm telling you that I didn't copy any other student work....
I know it I did some research about the topics on different news , newspapers and later on I referenced every single one.
And just like that ....Turnitin says that my similarity it's high...(Next????? Yessss correct I got a zero , "0" , fail....
Because Turnitin says so.
That’s not how academic misconduct works. Turnitin is a flagging system and is just the first stage in any investigation.
Reply 8
Original post by Admit-One
That’s not how academic misconduct works. Turnitin is a flagging system and is just the first stage in any investigation.
Yeah welcome to the real world ,
Where as you say Turnitin just place red flags,
And some lecturers use this as the marking machine,
Because this is exactly what they did....
I'd love that world works so legally as you are speaking but most of the time is not like that
Reply 9
Original post by Lariochico
Excuse me strider hot, my job it's done already when I've submit my assessment, some lecturers are the ones who stick to whatever Turnitin says and they even never read the student assessment.
And you tell me how do you want me to prove them wrong ...
I'm a student...I can Just send emails to retention, to student support and that's it....
Next step would be bring them to the court.
(Is what they deserve)
But I can't do anything else..
And I'm telling you that I didn't copy any other student work....
I know it I did some research about the topics on different news , newspapers and later on I referenced every single one.
And just like that ....Turnitin says that my similarity it's high...(Next????? Yessss correct I got a zero , "0" , fail....
Because Turnitin says so.
And you tell me how do you want me to prove them wrong ...
I'm a student...I can Just send emails to retention, to student support and that's it....
Next step would be bring them to the court.
(Is what they deserve)
But I can't do anything else..
And I'm telling you that I didn't copy any other student work....
I know it I did some research about the topics on different news , newspapers and later on I referenced every single one.
And just like that ....Turnitin says that my similarity it's high...(Next????? Yessss correct I got a zero , "0" , fail....
Because Turnitin says so.
I really think you're jumping to some near conspiracy like conclusions here, we have no reason to believe that turnitin is stitching you up or that your teachers are trying to use it against you, do you have anything to back that up? Also you will have chance to defend yourself and there is a process to follow, if I wanted to show proof I'd be ready to present my previous drafts, my research and charts or mind maps etc making it clear I did the legwork.
Just lastly and without trying to be rude, you're an A level student sitting here trying to tell us adults and graduates how the world 'really works' as if we've never seen it 🙃 😅
Reply 10
Original post by StriderHort
I really think you're jumping to some near conspiracy like conclusions here, we have no reason to believe that turnitin is stitching you up or that your teachers are trying to use it against you, do you have anything to back that up? Also you will have chance to defend yourself and there is a process to follow, if I wanted to show proof I'd be ready to present my previous drafts, my research and charts or mind maps etc making it clear I did the legwork.
Just lastly and without trying to be rude, you're an A level student sitting here trying to tell us adults and graduates how the world 'really works' as if we've never seen it 🙃 😅
Just lastly and without trying to be rude, you're an A level student sitting here trying to tell us adults and graduates how the world 'really works' as if we've never seen it 🙃 😅
Excuse me who is being rude,?
I'm just saying what I really did...
I read the brief to do an assessment,
I started doing some research to find information about the topic...
(Which I liked "yes women rights are human rights")
As any other student I found the News that I liked about the topic, I read a lot , and I started doing my assessment....
At the end I mentioned the sources filling the references...
If you think this procedure it's a case of plagiarism because Turnitin find some similarities it's just unfair
Because the only thing I see(and it's not because its me)
It's a student that did an assessment of 2800 words....
Now you tell me that I did some kind of plagiarism
It's just funny how people love to see other people get sad and have a taste of failure...
But yeah nothing new.
Now call me rude again...😂
Reply 11
Original post by Lariochico
Excuse me who is being rude,?
I'm just saying what I really did...
I read the brief to do an assessment,
I started doing some research to find information about the topic...
(Which I liked "yes women rights are human rights")
As any other student I found the News that I liked about the topic, I read a lot , and I started doing my assessment....
At the end I mentioned the sources filling the references...
If you think this procedure it's a case of plagiarism because Turnitin find some similarities it's just unfair
Because the only thing I see(and it's not because its me)
It's a student that did an assessment of 2800 words....
Now you tell me that I did some kind of plagiarism
It's just funny how people love to see other people get sad and have a taste of failure...
But yeah nothing new.
Now call me rude again...😂
I'm just saying what I really did...
I read the brief to do an assessment,
I started doing some research to find information about the topic...
(Which I liked "yes women rights are human rights")
As any other student I found the News that I liked about the topic, I read a lot , and I started doing my assessment....
At the end I mentioned the sources filling the references...
If you think this procedure it's a case of plagiarism because Turnitin find some similarities it's just unfair
Because the only thing I see(and it's not because its me)
It's a student that did an assessment of 2800 words....
Now you tell me that I did some kind of plagiarism
It's just funny how people love to see other people get sad and have a taste of failure...
But yeah nothing new.
Now call me rude again...😂
I didn't call you rude, you've misread, I said >I< didn't want to be rude, but I did feel it worth pointing out that you sounded like you were trying to lecture people with a lot more life & academic experience about how the world works as if we'd never been to school. I didn't actually accuse you of plagiarism either.
Turnitin flagging up your work at 60% is not in itself an accusation, there are circumstances where you will receive a relatively high score for honesty work but your work being flagged at 60% is absolutely going to draw attention.
Are you basically claiming Turnitin is wrong or the person using that data to start the misconduct process is?
Reply 12
Original post by StriderHort
I didn't call you rude, you've misread, I said >I< didn't want to be rude, but I did feel it worth pointing out that you sounded like you were trying to lecture people with a lot more life & academic experience about how the world works as if we'd never been to school. I didn't actually accuse you of plagiarism either.
Turnitin flagging up your work at 60% is not in itself an accusation, there are circumstances where you will receive a relatively high score for honesty work but your work being flagged at 60% is absolutely going to draw attention.
Are you basically claiming Turnitin is wrong or the person using that data to start the misconduct process is?
Turnitin flagging up your work at 60% is not in itself an accusation, there are circumstances where you will receive a relatively high score for honesty work but your work being flagged at 60% is absolutely going to draw attention.
Are you basically claiming Turnitin is wrong or the person using that data to start the misconduct process is?
Thanks for explaining yourself....
At this point being honest I think the system itself it's wrong at many levels,
Because again not because that is my case....
If I see any student that
Spending time doing an assessment,
Doing some research,
Learning about different topics....
And at the end because Turnitin, and a bad use from the Lecturer ...
The student mark it's zero or a simple fail....
That it's a terrible scenario for universities and the student world....
And even now with AI
I know that a lot of students use it and they get good marks .....
Let's see where all this goes...
But it doesn't look great.
Reply 13
Original post by Lariochico
Excuse me who is being rude,?
I'm just saying what I really did...
I read the brief to do an assessment,
I started doing some research to find information about the topic...
(Which I liked "yes women rights are human rights")
As any other student I found the News that I liked about the topic, I read a lot , and I started doing my assessment....
At the end I mentioned the sources filling the references...
If you think this procedure it's a case of plagiarism because Turnitin find some similarities it's just unfair
Because the only thing I see(and it's not because its me)
It's a student that did an assessment of 2800 words....
Now you tell me that I did some kind of plagiarism
It's just funny how people love to see other people get sad and have a taste of failure...
But yeah nothing new.
Now call me rude again...😂
I'm just saying what I really did...
I read the brief to do an assessment,
I started doing some research to find information about the topic...
(Which I liked "yes women rights are human rights")
As any other student I found the News that I liked about the topic, I read a lot , and I started doing my assessment....
At the end I mentioned the sources filling the references...
If you think this procedure it's a case of plagiarism because Turnitin find some similarities it's just unfair
Because the only thing I see(and it's not because its me)
It's a student that did an assessment of 2800 words....
Now you tell me that I did some kind of plagiarism
It's just funny how people love to see other people get sad and have a taste of failure...
But yeah nothing new.
Now call me rude again...😂
Were you meant to cite the references in the text as well as at the end? Did you use quotation marks when you quoted a source?
Reply 14
I used to manage the student disciplinary process for a Faculty of a college, including assessment malpractice.
Our college issued clear guidance to students to help them understand how to avoid plagiarism and promote 'academic integrity'.
Have a check of yours.
Our college had a clear policy published about what constitutes assessment malpractice and gave advice to students how to defend themselves and what support they could seek, how to appeal.
Were you able to get a copy of the Turnitin report? That could help with your appeal as you would be able to dispute the findings of this software.
Remember that plagiarism isn't just about directly copying another students assessment or failing to cite sources. A student may also not be aware that they plagiarised because it was not an intentional act.
It can also be the result of the student failing to foreground their own voice and own style, and heavily paraphrase the content of acknowledged sources outside of cited direct quotes, when the assignment is a patch work of direct quotes surrounded by paraphrasing.
Here is some guidance from different university sources. This isn't aimed directly at you, just that I want to shine a light on this area :-
"Only include other people's ideas within your work when they support your argument or to illustrate a point and ensure you reference them.
Try and think in terms of 'ideas' and not quotations or paraphrases; if something is not your idea then whose is it?
Use direct quotations only when absolutely necessary, focus on ideas instead."
"It is, for example, possible to cite a source in the separate bibliography and still commit plagiarism by then incorporating a significant amount of un-attributed material taken directly or indirectly (through paraphrasing) from that source into the body of the assignment."
" Avoiding plagiarism is not simply a matter of making sure your references are all correct, or changing enough words so the examiner will not notice your paraphrase; it is about deploying your academic skills to make your work as good as it can be.
It is your responsibility to avoid close paraphrasing.... It is better to write a brief summary of the author’s overall argument in your own words, indicating that you are doing so, than to paraphrase particular sections of his or her writing. This will ensure you have a genuine grasp of the argument and will avoid the difficulty of paraphrasing without plagiarising."
Our college issued clear guidance to students to help them understand how to avoid plagiarism and promote 'academic integrity'.
Have a check of yours.
Our college had a clear policy published about what constitutes assessment malpractice and gave advice to students how to defend themselves and what support they could seek, how to appeal.
Were you able to get a copy of the Turnitin report? That could help with your appeal as you would be able to dispute the findings of this software.
Remember that plagiarism isn't just about directly copying another students assessment or failing to cite sources. A student may also not be aware that they plagiarised because it was not an intentional act.
It can also be the result of the student failing to foreground their own voice and own style, and heavily paraphrase the content of acknowledged sources outside of cited direct quotes, when the assignment is a patch work of direct quotes surrounded by paraphrasing.
Here is some guidance from different university sources. This isn't aimed directly at you, just that I want to shine a light on this area :-
"Only include other people's ideas within your work when they support your argument or to illustrate a point and ensure you reference them.
Try and think in terms of 'ideas' and not quotations or paraphrases; if something is not your idea then whose is it?
Use direct quotations only when absolutely necessary, focus on ideas instead."
"It is, for example, possible to cite a source in the separate bibliography and still commit plagiarism by then incorporating a significant amount of un-attributed material taken directly or indirectly (through paraphrasing) from that source into the body of the assignment."
" Avoiding plagiarism is not simply a matter of making sure your references are all correct, or changing enough words so the examiner will not notice your paraphrase; it is about deploying your academic skills to make your work as good as it can be.
It is your responsibility to avoid close paraphrasing.... It is better to write a brief summary of the author’s overall argument in your own words, indicating that you are doing so, than to paraphrase particular sections of his or her writing. This will ensure you have a genuine grasp of the argument and will avoid the difficulty of paraphrasing without plagiarising."
Original post by Lariochico
Dear student room team,
I've been falsely accused of plagiarism,
Basically I did an assessment, doing some research on the website...
My sources , (different newspapers)
BBC, observer, the times, and so on....
Well at the time of get marks....
Turnitin said that my similarity report was high...
Around 60%
And I've been accused of plagiarism and get a misconduct email.
How unfair is that....
As I read because similarity it's not clear that a student have cheated, or copied another student work.
How's possible that because a software says this similarity you get a fail.
This is a all levels so unfair.
I'm trying to file an appeal.
Because just me knows the time I've spend doing the assessment.
Don't know if anyone have ever feel the same towards the system ..but things have to change.
I've been falsely accused of plagiarism,
Basically I did an assessment, doing some research on the website...
My sources , (different newspapers)
BBC, observer, the times, and so on....
Well at the time of get marks....
Turnitin said that my similarity report was high...
Around 60%
And I've been accused of plagiarism and get a misconduct email.
How unfair is that....
As I read because similarity it's not clear that a student have cheated, or copied another student work.
How's possible that because a software says this similarity you get a fail.
This is a all levels so unfair.
I'm trying to file an appeal.
Because just me knows the time I've spend doing the assessment.
Don't know if anyone have ever feel the same towards the system ..but things have to change.
I can relate. Today I had a plagiarism panel since turniting detected 59% of similarity between my dissertation and published papers which were cited and referred to in reference list. However, as the result, my dissertation was marked zero. It’s soo frustrating and overwhelming since I have been working on my dissertation from May to August. I didn’t have any rest during the summer. Panel/meeting was biased and I was treated as a person who was already guilty in plagiarism. Moreover I’m an international student and I was planning to switch into graduate visa, but now I don’t know if I can do so. Can I receive my degree from the university? Am I eligible to apply for graduate visa? It’s such unfair situation((
Original post by RedElf
I can relate. Today I had a plagiarism panel since turniting detected 59% of similarity between my dissertation and published papers which were cited and referred to in reference list. However, as the result, my dissertation was marked zero. It’s soo frustrating and overwhelming since I have been working on my dissertation from May to August. I didn’t have any rest during the summer. Panel/meeting was biased and I was treated as a person who was already guilty in plagiarism.
You should probably contact your student union to see if they can advise on how to proceed, if you haven't already done so. You'll need to check your university's regulations to see if there's scope to appeal the decision and on what grounds you can appeal. Correctly citing copied material should be a defence against an allegation of plagiarism; but there's a question as to whether other material was identified as being plagiarised that wasn't detected by Turnitin but which might have been identified through other means.
My concern would be that more than half of your dissertation is work written by other people -- even if it's correctly-cited work-written-by-other-people -- and that doesn't leave much scope for your own commentary and analysis of the dissertation topic. So even if you hadn't been given 0% for it, your mark may not have been high anyway.
Moreover I’m an international student and I was planning to switch into graduate visa, but now I don’t know if I can do so. Can I receive my degree from the university? Am I eligible to apply for graduate visa? It’s such unfair situation((
Some of this will depend on what decision the university has made regarding your plagiarism -- and it might not be the plagiarism panel that decides what the outcome is. It's possible you will be given an opportunity to redo your dissertation and submit it again; this might be capped or uncapped. If so, and you pass a resubmission, then you would be awarded a degree. On the other hand, the dissertation could be failed, and no opportunity to resit be given; if this happens you may well be offered an "exit award" -- a qualification lower than the award you were registered for. On a bachelor's course this might be an ordinary degree (i.e. a degree without honours). On a master's course, this might be a Postgraduate Diploma (PGDip).
According to https://www.gov.uk/graduate-visa one of requirements for a Graduate visa is that "your education provider (such as your university or college) has told the Home Office you’ve successfully completed your course". So whether or not you are eligible for that visa will depend on a decision as to whether or not you've "successfully completed" your course. It's possible that being given a exit award might not reach that threshold. That's something you'd need to check with your university -- and for that, it might be best to contact your university's visa team.
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