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Warwick Econ vs KCL Econ and Management

Hey, I currently have unconditional offers from KCL for Economics and Management and Warwick for BSc Econ. I'm looking for a course that is analytical but not too focused on math, with a hands-on approach and hopefully an IB track. I'm getting polarizing views on King's College London from both domestic and international students and need better insights. Backup also received an offer from Edinburgh for Business and Economics BSc
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1st just broke this threads hymen

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Original post by bs3368
Hey, I currently have unconditional offers from KCL for Economics and Management and Warwick for BSc Econ. I'm looking for a course that is analytical but not too focused on math, with a hands-on approach and hopefully an IB track. I'm getting polarizing views on King's College London from both domestic and international students and need better insights. Backup also received an offer from Edinburgh for Business and Economics BSc

Warwick. King's Economics and Management is not a target for IB recruiters.

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Original post by bs3368
Hey, I currently have unconditional offers from KCL for Economics and Management and Warwick for BSc Econ. I'm looking for a course that is analytical but not too focused on math, with a hands-on approach and hopefully an IB track. I'm getting polarizing views on King's College London from both domestic and international students and need better insights. Backup also received an offer from Edinburgh for Business and Economics BSc

What a-levels did you do

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Original post by bs3368
Hey, I currently have unconditional offers from KCL for Economics and Management and Warwick for BSc Econ. I'm looking for a course that is analytical but not too focused on math, with a hands-on approach and hopefully an IB track. I'm getting polarizing views on King's College London from both domestic and international students and need better insights. Backup also received an offer from Edinburgh for Business and Economics BSc


Not to beat around the bush here, when you say you want to do something “analytical but not to focused on math” I’m going to be honest here, anything analytical in economics especially at Warwick is going to be focused around math. If you’re someone who doesn’t like heavy mathematics, economics as a whole isn’t right for you, maybe you would benefit from doing a finance and banking Bsc versus economics. Cause especially in top unis like you stated, economics will be taught in mathematical formulas, not really focusing on the “finance side of things” Even if you took A level physics or maths, if you don’t enjoy maths, don’t take economics! Fairly straight forward I think.

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Original post by Rhewer1
Not to beat around the bush here, when you say you want to do something “analytical but not to focused on math” I’m going to be honest here, anything analytical in economics especially at Warwick is going to be focused around math. If you’re someone who doesn’t like heavy mathematics, economics as a whole isn’t right for you, maybe you would benefit from doing a finance and banking Bsc versus economics. Cause especially in top unis like you stated, economics will be taught in mathematical formulas, not really focusing on the “finance side of things” Even if you took A level physics or maths, if you don’t enjoy maths, don’t take economics! Fairly straight forward I think.

Hi everyone,I’m a Year 13 student from Yorkshire, and I’mplanning to apply to King’s College London. I’vealways dreamed of studying there and pursuing acareer in investment banking or working at topfinancial firms in London. However, I’m stuckbetween two courses: Economics and Economics& Management.I’ve heard that the placement year offered byEconomics & Management is invaluable—not justfor gaining real-world experience but also forsignificantly improving your chances of getting ajob after graduation. On the other hand,Economics is a pure subject that focuses onanalytical and quantitative skills, which I imaginewould be very appealing to employers in highfinance. I’ve also come across some opinions thata management component might not be seen asparticularly beneficial when applying for roles ininvestment banking, and I’m worried thatEconomics & Management could be viewed lessfavorably by employers compared to a straightEconomics degree.Since King’s is considered a semi-target universityfor finance careers, I feel this decision could havea big impact on my prospects. Does anyone knowwhich of these courses is more highly regarded bytop finance employers, particularly in investmentbanking? Or does anyone have insights into howthese courses translate into job opportunities inhigh finance?Any advice or guidance would be greatlyappreciated!Thanks in advance,Mohsin

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Original post by mohsinK
Hi everyone,I’m a Year 13 student from Yorkshire, and I’mplanning to apply to King’s College London. I’vealways dreamed of studying there and pursuing acareer in investment banking or working at topfinancial firms in London. However, I’m stuckbetween two courses: Economics and Economics& Management.I’ve heard that the placement year offered byEconomics & Management is invaluable—not justfor gaining real-world experience but also forsignificantly improving your chances of getting ajob after graduation. On the other hand,Economics is a pure subject that focuses onanalytical and quantitative skills, which I imaginewould be very appealing to employers in highfinance. I’ve also come across some opinions thata management component might not be seen asparticularly beneficial when applying for roles ininvestment banking, and I’m worried thatEconomics & Management could be viewed lessfavorably by employers compared to a straightEconomics degree.Since King’s is considered a semi-target universityfor finance careers, I feel this decision could havea big impact on my prospects. Does anyone knowwhich of these courses is more highly regarded bytop finance employers, particularly in investmentbanking? Or does anyone have insights into howthese courses translate into job opportunities inhigh finance?Any advice or guidance would be greatlyappreciated!Thanks in advance,Mohsin


Yes you would be correct to assume that if you just got a pure econ degree it would be looked at better than econ and management. For a few things, you’re taught around 60/40 split between both that could mean 40 management and 60 economics, you will learn much less than someone who just took economics, this may hinder your chances of getting that top finance job. Furthermore, people with an economics and finance degree have a better chance of getting that finance job, cause economics only focuses on “models” where as a finance module like corporate finance or banks and financial analysis focus more on reading graphs, investments. Don’t get me wrong you can still get into a top level finance firm, but you will be fighting with mathematicians, physicists etc. To conclude, even thought what I said is true to the wider sense, your CV, charisma, grades at uni, getting a good internship, will set you up for success in the long run. If KC also an economics and finance course, I would 100% advise you to take it, as you get the best of both worlds and won’t be shocked when you get into the work place and you’re not calculating X 😅 but good luck, hope year 13 goes well for you :smile:

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Original post by AngelikaK
Warwick. King's Economics and Management is not a target for IB recruiters.

If LinkedIn stats for Goldman are anything to go by, King’s is still a target, but Warwick is a stronger target for IB.

King’s, however, ranks stronger than any university outside of LSE, Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial, and Warwick in terms of the number of Goldman Sachs employees on LinkedIn who list it as their place of study. Similar trends are observed at JP Morgan, Citi, and Deutschebank.

So both appear to be good options, at least in terms of LinkedIn representation at leading IB firms!

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Original post by Rhewer1
Yes you would be correct to assume that if you just got a pure econ degree it would be looked at better than econ and management. For a few things, you’re taught around 60/40 split between both that could mean 40 management and 60 economics, you will learn much less than someone who just took economics, this may hinder your chances of getting that top finance job. Furthermore, people with an economics and finance degree have a better chance of getting that finance job, cause economics only focuses on “models” where as a finance module like corporate finance or banks and financial analysis focus more on reading graphs, investments. Don’t get me wrong you can still get into a top level finance firm, but you will be fighting with mathematicians, physicists etc. To conclude, even thought what I said is true to the wider sense, your CV, charisma, grades at uni, getting a good internship, will set you up for success in the long run. If KC also an economics and finance course, I would 100% advise you to take it, as you get the best of both worlds and won’t be shocked when you get into the work place and you’re not calculating X 😅 but good luck, hope year 13 goes well for you :smile:

Hi,
Im finalizing my UCAS application but struggling to decide on my third university choice for BSc Economics. My goal is to get into a top job in finance or investment banking in London, so I need a university that will give me the best chance to achieve this.
Here’s my current UCAS list:

1.

BSc Economics at King’s College London (my most ambitious choice)

2.

BSc Economics at Bath (also ambitious and highly regarded)

3.

BSc Economics at Queen Mary University of London

4.

BSc Economics at York

For my third choice, I’m considering:

Birmingham: I like the city and qualify for a contextual offer, which makes it a strong insurance option. If I receive their contextual offer, I could make Birmingham my insurance choice instead of York, allowing me to focus my firm choice on a more ambitious university. I’ve also heard Birmingham is stronger than York in terms of target universities for finance.

St Andrews: I don’t like the location, but it’s highly ranked (top five for economics on some league tables) and seems to have a strong reputation, which I’ve heard is very important for investment banking.

Exeter: Offers a placement year, which could help with networking and gaining experience, and it’s also well-respected.

My predicted grades are AAA, so I need a university with entry requirements that match this (no lower, no higher). I want my third choice to still be a strong option for my career goals but also realistic to get into.
Out of Birmingham, St Andrews, and Exeter, which is better for getting into investment banking or high finance in London? Or is there another university you’d recommend that’s stronger and has AAA entry requirements?
Thanks so much for your help!
Mohsin
Also thank you for your insightful reply its helped me narrow down to just economics at KCL as they dont offer a finance course!!

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Original post by mohsinK
Hi,
Im finalizing my UCAS application but struggling to decide on my third university choice for BSc Economics. My goal is to get into a top job in finance or investment banking in London, so I need a university that will give me the best chance to achieve this.
Here’s my current UCAS list:

1.

BSc Economics at King’s College London (my most ambitious choice)

2.

BSc Economics at Bath (also ambitious and highly regarded)

3.

BSc Economics at Queen Mary University of London

4.

BSc Economics at York

For my third choice, I’m considering:

Birmingham: I like the city and qualify for a contextual offer, which makes it a strong insurance option. If I receive their contextual offer, I could make Birmingham my insurance choice instead of York, allowing me to focus my firm choice on a more ambitious university. I’ve also heard Birmingham is stronger than York in terms of target universities for finance.

St Andrews: I don’t like the location, but it’s highly ranked (top five for economics on some league tables) and seems to have a strong reputation, which I’ve heard is very important for investment banking.

Exeter: Offers a placement year, which could help with networking and gaining experience, and it’s also well-respected.

My predicted grades are AAA, so I need a university with entry requirements that match this (no lower, no higher). I want my third choice to still be a strong option for my career goals but also realistic to get into.
Out of Birmingham, St Andrews, and Exeter, which is better for getting into investment banking or high finance in London? Or is there another university you’d recommend that’s stronger and has AAA entry requirements?
Thanks so much for your help!
Mohsin
Also thank you for your insightful reply its helped me narrow down to just economics at KCL as they dont offer a finance course!!


Look you seem like a very smart individual but what comes with that is arrogance and stupidity at times. Why do you want to study in “London” specifically? Have you even considered the size classes? Have you considered how you learn? Cause you might be better in an environment where you can ask questions to your lecturer during your class to engage, this might be better for you I personally don’t know, this is something you have to consider yourself. When it comes to finance generally LSE is regarded as the best in the world, but they offer requirements of A*A*A* usually on their course. But to keep inside your “grade requirements” with your predicted grades, I would consider Bristol uni, (Not UWE). But you need to be less arrogant with the “no higher, no lower” thing, cause some universities like KCL, Oxford etc normally people pursue academia in those universities, versus jobs. Go for a uni that maybe has AAB, it might actually pay off networking wise but also the environment might be right for you. If what I said here hasn’t changed your perspective or maybe made you change your line of thought about it, then yes you have applied to all the top unis for economics, but don’t be surprised when you get into university especially for economics at a top uni, with very minimal help from the actual teachers (many stories look it up) you might actually regret going to university like KCL, and maybe something like Swansea or Bristol was better for you in terms of engagement with you. But anyways, hope this has helped you in some way, feel free to ask anymore questions about economics or finance in terms of subject and what to expect, I am more than happy to help

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