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Should I quit my SCITT?

I finish my SCITT (School Centered Initial Teacher Training) course in July this year in the UK, training to teach science (chemistry) in secondary school. Before this I taught for 2 years in the middle school sector american curriculum in an international school in Saudi Arabia. I am fully aware of how demanding the teaching profession can be - my degree is in Education studies - but during this year I have been more sick with stress than I ever have in my life and have had more sick days off due to being physically sick or even I mentally couldn't hack it to the point the thought of going into school would make me cry at times. The workload is ridiculous pushing past the point arguably of what teachers actually do, I'm expected to observe lessons in time that I don't have - I'm expected to teach 15 hours a week (the lessons being planned from scratch by myself which none of the teachers that work in the school do as they just use lessons from a shared area that I can only really use for 1 or 2 lessons a week.), the amount of paperwork to complete for my evidence bundle is insane including 3 page lesson plans for each lesson I teach, a sequence of learning to explain why I had done and planned the way I had, weekly reflections that need to be submitted, plenty of outer reading with proof you're doing it, behaviour management and professional behaviours logs, additional subject knowledge tasks and time taken away from PPAs for subject training. The lack of support for all this work is minimal because none of the teachers have enough time to sit with me and talk about the lessons or help plan and I often think I'm just in their way. On top of all this paperwork I am also expected to write my PGCE assessments, which due to a failure on the university's part half of my cohort have failed the second assessment, partake in the revision sessions for year 11 after school 3 days a week, be part of the science club for year 7s and mark all the books for all 10 classes I teach - I won't officially get home until around 6pm where I have dinner and take a shower and continue to lesson plan and do work until around 1am because all lesson plans need to be submitted to my host teacher for that class 48 hours before the actual lesson. I honestly just feel burnt out and don't think I can cope with it all along with the attitude and behaviour of the students that are so disrespectful. Should I quit?

Reply 1

Original post by misscgreen
I finish my SCITT (School Centered Initial Teacher Training) course in July this year in the UK, training to teach science (chemistry) in secondary school. Before this I taught for 2 years in the middle school sector american curriculum in an international school in Saudi Arabia. I am fully aware of how demanding the teaching profession can be - my degree is in Education studies - but during this year I have been more sick with stress than I ever have in my life and have had more sick days off due to being physically sick or even I mentally couldn't hack it to the point the thought of going into school would make me cry at times. The workload is ridiculous pushing past the point arguably of what teachers actually do, I'm expected to observe lessons in time that I don't have - I'm expected to teach 15 hours a week (the lessons being planned from scratch by myself which none of the teachers that work in the school do as they just use lessons from a shared area that I can only really use for 1 or 2 lessons a week.), the amount of paperwork to complete for my evidence bundle is insane including 3 page lesson plans for each lesson I teach, a sequence of learning to explain why I had done and planned the way I had, weekly reflections that need to be submitted, plenty of outer reading with proof you're doing it, behaviour management and professional behaviours logs, additional subject knowledge tasks and time taken away from PPAs for subject training. The lack of support for all this work is minimal because none of the teachers have enough time to sit with me and talk about the lessons or help plan and I often think I'm just in their way. On top of all this paperwork I am also expected to write my PGCE assessments, which due to a failure on the university's part half of my cohort have failed the second assessment, partake in the revision sessions for year 11 after school 3 days a week, be part of the science club for year 7s and mark all the books for all 10 classes I teach - I won't officially get home until around 6pm where I have dinner and take a shower and continue to lesson plan and do work until around 1am because all lesson plans need to be submitted to my host teacher for that class 48 hours before the actual lesson. I honestly just feel burnt out and don't think I can cope with it all along with the attitude and behaviour of the students that are so disrespectful. Should I quit?

Hiya, this sounds awful and I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through such a hard time ☹️ That said, I’m assuming you only have a month or so left before you finish, so the real question is if you can handle doing it or not. It seems to me that you have gotten into a pretty disorganised SCITT program that lacks support, but luckily that’s not the case for all schools in the UK and I’m sure you’ll be able to find a good environment in the next school you work at. So yeah, it’s a personal decision that you need to make it: is going through this for another 2 months worth it?

Reply 2

Original post by misscgreen
I finish my SCITT (School Centered Initial Teacher Training) course in July this year in the UK, training to teach science (chemistry) in secondary school. Before this I taught for 2 years in the middle school sector american curriculum in an international school in Saudi Arabia. I am fully aware of how demanding the teaching profession can be - my degree is in Education studies - but during this year I have been more sick with stress than I ever have in my life and have had more sick days off due to being physically sick or even I mentally couldn't hack it to the point the thought of going into school would make me cry at times. The workload is ridiculous pushing past the point arguably of what teachers actually do, I'm expected to observe lessons in time that I don't have - I'm expected to teach 15 hours a week (the lessons being planned from scratch by myself which none of the teachers that work in the school do as they just use lessons from a shared area that I can only really use for 1 or 2 lessons a week.), the amount of paperwork to complete for my evidence bundle is insane including 3 page lesson plans for each lesson I teach, a sequence of learning to explain why I had done and planned the way I had, weekly reflections that need to be submitted, plenty of outer reading with proof you're doing it, behaviour management and professional behaviours logs, additional subject knowledge tasks and time taken away from PPAs for subject training. The lack of support for all this work is minimal because none of the teachers have enough time to sit with me and talk about the lessons or help plan and I often think I'm just in their way. On top of all this paperwork I am also expected to write my PGCE assessments, which due to a failure on the university's part half of my cohort have failed the second assessment, partake in the revision sessions for year 11 after school 3 days a week, be part of the science club for year 7s and mark all the books for all 10 classes I teach - I won't officially get home until around 6pm where I have dinner and take a shower and continue to lesson plan and do work until around 1am because all lesson plans need to be submitted to my host teacher for that class 48 hours before the actual lesson. I honestly just feel burnt out and don't think I can cope with it all along with the attitude and behaviour of the students that are so disrespectful. Should I quit?


Omg it feels like I wrote this… the school has said to my Scitt they think I should do an extended placement of 7 more weeks (so they can have a free TA)

Reply 3

Original post by misscgreen
I finish my SCITT (School Centered Initial Teacher Training) course in July this year in the UK, training to teach science (chemistry) in secondary school. Before this I taught for 2 years in the middle school sector american curriculum in an international school in Saudi Arabia. I am fully aware of how demanding the teaching profession can be - my degree is in Education studies - but during this year I have been more sick with stress than I ever have in my life and have had more sick days off due to being physically sick or even I mentally couldn't hack it to the point the thought of going into school would make me cry at times. The workload is ridiculous pushing past the point arguably of what teachers actually do, I'm expected to observe lessons in time that I don't have - I'm expected to teach 15 hours a week (the lessons being planned from scratch by myself which none of the teachers that work in the school do as they just use lessons from a shared area that I can only really use for 1 or 2 lessons a week.), the amount of paperwork to complete for my evidence bundle is insane including 3 page lesson plans for each lesson I teach, a sequence of learning to explain why I had done and planned the way I had, weekly reflections that need to be submitted, plenty of outer reading with proof you're doing it, behaviour management and professional behaviours logs, additional subject knowledge tasks and time taken away from PPAs for subject training. The lack of support for all this work is minimal because none of the teachers have enough time to sit with me and talk about the lessons or help plan and I often think I'm just in their way. On top of all this paperwork I am also expected to write my PGCE assessments, which due to a failure on the university's part half of my cohort have failed the second assessment, partake in the revision sessions for year 11 after school 3 days a week, be part of the science club for year 7s and mark all the books for all 10 classes I teach - I won't officially get home until around 6pm where I have dinner and take a shower and continue to lesson plan and do work until around 1am because all lesson plans need to be submitted to my host teacher for that class 48 hours before the actual lesson. I honestly just feel burnt out and don't think I can cope with it all along with the attitude and behaviour of the students that are so disrespectful. Should I quit?

I'm really sorry to hear this. Yes it is difficult. Yes, what you have to do sounds pretty normal. And if it is too much then by all means say cheerio. But please know that it does get easier. Next year you will teach 19 hours but equally, you will have taught some of it before and after a year or two you have taught everything. You also won't have to formally lesson plan.

I am in year 7 of my teaching and don't work in the evenings or weekends at all. I would go as far as to say most of what I do now is pretty straightforward. But I still went through the same hell you did. There is just light on the other side. And BTW - the teachers you are observing are planning their lessons. They just don't have to write a formal lesson plan and copy in triplicate. But they are planning. When you know what you are doing, it isn't hard to knock a 1 hour lesson together in 10 minutes.

You are on one of the steepest and most accountable learning curve there is out there. If you can hack this you can hack anything - honest. You have one more month to go. Hang in there!

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Original post by hotpud
I'm really sorry to hear this. Yes it is difficult. Yes, what you have to do sounds pretty normal. And if it is too much then by all means say cheerio. But please know that it does get easier. Next year you will teach 19 hours but equally, you will have taught some of it before and after a year or two you have taught everything. You also won't have to formally lesson plan.
I am in year 7 of my teaching and don't work in the evenings or weekends at all. I would go as far as to say most of what I do now is pretty straightforward. But I still went through the same hell you did. There is just light on the other side. And BTW - the teachers you are observing are planning their lessons. They just don't have to write a formal lesson plan and copy in triplicate. But they are planning. When you know what you are doing, it isn't hard to knock a 1 hour lesson together in 10 minutes.
You are on one of the steepest and most accountable learning curve there is out there. If you can hack this you can hack anything - honest. You have one more month to go. Hang in there!


Agree with this try to hang in there

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