Rebecca Joynes: Teacher guilty of sex with two boys

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Original post by Talkative Toad

Agreed and according to the UK law the woman cannot be viewed as a rapist (read this somewhere but I have no idea whether that’s true or not).
Time to change the law.

I dunno, it's generally accepted you need a penis to rape people, other acts are covered in other ways. Past that you obv get issues of 'statutory rape' due to ages etc which could be claimed here, but I don't consider someone refusing consent and someone legally not being allowed to consent who wants to as the same thing.

I feel a problem might be that we place a lot more emotive weight to the word rape than sexual assault etc even though they both address the same idea of forced contact or penetration. It's not like she's been found innocent of anything.

Obv a very complicated topic, but just my opinion.

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Talkative Toad

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Original post by StriderHort

I dunno, it's generally accepted you need a penis to rape people, other acts are covered in other ways. Past that you obv get issues of 'statutory rape' due to ages etc which could be claimed here, but I don't consider someone refusing consent and someone legally not being allowed to consent who wants to as the same thing.

I feel a problem might be that we place a lot more emotive weight to the word rape than sexual assault etc even though they both address the same idea of forced contact or penetration. It's not like she's been found innocent of anything.

Obv a very complicated topic, but just my opinion.

I mean I don’t even know whether this is sexual assault or not (in that the article doesn’t use the term) but it’s sickening what she’s done regardless though.

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Serial groomer and rapist deserves a long prison sentence. Of course our justice system is a joke so she'll get 6 months suspended and back to teaching in a year.

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Mohammed_2000

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Original post by Talkative Toad

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-69026069.amp
Sickening honestly.

What’s the world got to stoop low to have sex with students disgusting.

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Dealing with some questions raised above, the offence of rape can only be committed by a man. The main offence in question in the case under discussion was sexual activity with a child, contrary to section 9 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

"Statutory rape" is an American legal concept which has no precise analog in the laws of the United Kingdom.

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Original post by Guru Jason

Serial groomer and rapist deserves a long prison sentence. Of course our justice system is a joke so she'll get 6 months suspended and back to teaching in a year.

You are mistaken. The teacher will receive an immediate custodial sentence and will not be permitted to teach again.

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Original post by Stiffy Byng

You are mistaken. The teacher will receive an immediate custodial sentence and will not be permitted to teach again.

That's what should happen. It won't though.

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mayarpapayar

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How can she be so pathetic to be “flattered” by teenage boys??? This woman is about to be in her 30s!!!! This is sickly

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Phelena

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The UK justice system is a sham and the current government has no will to improve it so I doubt she'll see the years she deserves. Although as long as she is never allowed near a minor again, there should hopefully be no more victims.

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StriderHort

Original post by Guru Jason

That's what should happen. It won't though.

Pretty sure she's going to back to prison, allegations of broken justice systems and prisons are like holiday camps etc etc non withstanding.

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TheStupidMoon

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If we go back to the way it was the problems will fix themselves.

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Original post by Guru Jason

That's what should happen. It won't though.

It is precisely what will happen. The world is not as depicted in tabloids.

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Original post by Stiffy Byng

It is precisely what will happen. The world is not as depicted in tabloids.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2274gdk10o

Wouldn't be so sure

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Original post by guru jason

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2274gdk10o
Wouldn't be so sure

That has nothing to do with the Joynes case. The ongoing disaster of Tory misgovernment impacts all public services, but Joynes has already been arrested, and convicted. She will be sentenced in due course. The trial judge has already made clear that an immediate custodial sentence is all but inevitable.

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Original post by Stiffy Byng

That has nothing to do with the Joyner case. The ongoing disaster of Tory misgovernment impacts all public services, but Joyner has already been arrested, and convicted. She will be sentenced in due course. The trial judge has already made clear that an immediate custodial sentence is all but inevitable.

Yeah but lack of spaces means this rapist who cannot be defined as one under uk law will have her sentenced reduced then out early for good behaviour. When I said 6 months, I genuinely think she'll be out in that time or less.

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