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2024 general election: Liberal Democrat campaign

Welcome to the 2024 UK General Election on TSR taking place on 4th July


This is a thread for the campaign for the Liberal Democrats. They won 11 MPs at the last election and a further four in by-elections in the subsequent parliament.

See the Liberal Democrat manifesto HERE

The Liberal Democrats will be focusing on winning seats from thw Conservatives in areas where they, rather than Labour, are the main challenger, and this is likely to significantly influence what they say in this campaign. We also expect stunts as a smaller party, it's a way for the Lib Dems to get noticed!

Campaign threads:
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The Lib Dems certainly look like they're having the most fun campaign and are generally the most fun party to campaign with :lol:

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The manifestation is apparently out but I have no idea if that’s true or not

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lol.

This is the party that rode on a manifesto promise at the last election to overturn the democratic BrExt referendum result.

Just think that through.

A party called "Liberal Democrats" that doesn't actually respect democracy, that doesn't want to allow democracy when it doesn't go their way, that doesn't respect the democratic system of the UK. In my book that actually makes the Lib Dems treasonous. An enemy of democracy is surely an enemy of this country. Democracy is our foundational bedrock. Without it we would go the way of Communist China or even worse.

The country spoke with one voice at the last election. The Lib Dems were annihlated from Westminster and that was surely for their utterly appalling promise to ignore democracy and the democratic process and overturn the referendum result. They should no longer be a political party of this country.



The Lib Dems are a total irrelevance imho. Voting for them would be an exercise in futility and a vote against democracy imo.

Even if you were a Remainer, the notion that an incumbent government would run roughshod over democracy and essentially ignore our votes and the will of the people is just unacceptable and appalling. The people will not forget what the Lib Dems attempted to do to get into power at the last election. Ever.

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Original post by Talkative Toad
The manifestation is apparently out but I have no idea if that’s true or not


Yep linked now in the OP :smile:
Original post by Saracen's Fez
Yep linked now in the OP :smile:

Thanks
Disagree with letting children vote but the rest doesn’t look too bad so far.
Legal recognition for non-binary people :yay:


But there needs to be a second referendum if this happens.

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Original post by PilgrimOfTruth
lol.
This is the party that rode on a manifesto promise at the last election to overturn the democratic BrExt referendum result.
Just think that through.
A party called "Liberal Democrats" that doesn't actually respect democracy, that doesn't want to allow democracy when it doesn't go their way, that doesn't respect the democratic system of the UK. In my book that actually makes the Lib Dems treasonous. An enemy of democracy is surely an enemy of this country. Democracy is our foundational bedrock. Without it we would go the way of Communist China or even worse.
The country spoke with one voice at the last election. The Lib Dems were annihlated from Westminster and that was surely for their utterly appalling promise to ignore democracy and the democratic process and overturn the referendum result. They should no longer be a political party of this country.

The Lib Dems are a total irrelevance imho. Voting for them would be an exercise in futility and a vote against democracy imo.
Even if you were a Remainer, the notion that an incumbent government would run roughshod over democracy and essentially ignore our votes and the will of the people is just unacceptable and appalling. The people will not forget what the Lib Dems attempted to do to get into power at the last election. Ever.
LibDemsUndemocratic.png

And you'd think that even if you voted to leave, you'd look at Brexit's effect on the economy and reconsider if it had been a good option.

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Original post by gremlin-
And you'd think that even if you voted to leave, you'd look at Brexit's effect on the economy and reconsider if it had been a good option.


BrExit was not about the economy. Remoaners always miss the key vital points of BrExit.

BrExit was about takng back our sovereignty that BLiar had fraudulently handed to the EU
It was about restoring the supremacy of our UK judiciary
It was about stopping Westminster being ultimately abolished and our UK political parties being abolished in favour of European level political parties.
It was about the UK being able to make its own laws again instead of being under the EU kosh
It was about stoppng our Sterling currency beng abolished in favour of the utterly failed Euro
and much more

All the nonsense about where we are since BrExit is a pantomime side-show. We got the hell out of Dodge. Job Done. Success!
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Original post by Saracen's Fez
The Lib Dems certainly look like they're having the most fun campaign and are generally the most fun party to campaign with :lol:
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You know, despite what people initially said about Ed Davey's escapades I genuinely think it has helped the Lib Dems at a national level. Their policies seem to be gaining more traction and we're hearing more from them in the media, which simply wasn't happening a few months ago.

They'll never win a majority but I expect these events will raise the number of seats they win.
Original post by SHallowvale
You know, despite what people initially said about Ed Davey's escapades I genuinely think it has helped the Lib Dems at a national level. Their policies seem to be gaining more traction and we're hearing more from them in the media, which simply wasn't happening a few months ago.

They'll never win a majority but I expect these events will raise the number of seats they win.


Hoping that they become the opposition but one can only dream.

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Original post by Talkative Toad
Hoping that they become the opposition but one can only dream.

If the Lib Dems become the official opposition then I may have to reconsider my disbelief in God. 😂 That would be the single most hilarious thing to happen in British politics.

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No party that disrespects democracy and the democratic process should have the word "democrats" in its party name.

Lib Dems are a politic irrelevance and have been since they took the very desperate and disastrous stance to promise to overturn the democratic referendum result. They were kicked out of parliament very rightly and have no place returning.
Essentially enemies of the State.
Original post by SHallowvale
If the Lib Dems become the official opposition then I may have to reconsider my disbelief in God. 😂 That would be the single most hilarious thing to happen in British politics.


I hate reform but even having them as the opposition I’ll accept at this point to see the conservatives go bust and to finally see a breakage in the two party system. The symbolism counts for me even if I despise Farage and Reform.

Please let’s not have the Tories as the opposition. Lib Dem’s please become the opposition and I’d like to see them have a greater voice and hold Labour to account (keep Labour in check as it’s certain that Labour will win the election in my opinion).
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Original post by Talkative Toad
I hate reform but even having them as the opposition I’ll accept at this point to see the conservatives go bust and they to finally see breakage in the two parties system. The symbolism counts for me even if I despise Farage and Reform.
Please let’s not have the Tories as the opposition. Lib Dem’s please become the opposition and I’d like to see them have a greater voice and hold Labour to account (keep Labour in check as it’s certain that Labour will win the election in my opinion).

I think having the Lib Dems as the official opposition, despite not coming 2nd place nationally, will be very good for electoral reform. It will force everyone to talk about how disproportionate parliament is, particularly the Conservatives who would be worse affected.

It's not going to happen, but who doesn't enjoy a nice fantasy? 😁
Original post by SHallowvale
I think having the Lib Dems as the official opposition, despite not coming 2nd place nationally, will be very good for electoral reform. It will force everyone to talk about how disproportionate parliament is, particularly the Conservatives who would be worse affected.

It's not going to happen, but who doesn't enjoy a nice fantasy? 😁

The official opposition depends on the number of MPs (not raw number of votes) doesn’t it? As in the party that has the second most amount of MPs becomes the opposition unless I’m mistaken here?

Yeah it won’t happen unfortunately in my opinion. But yeah having any party other than conservatives as the opposition could push for an electoral reform.

Glad to see that my uni town might become Lib Dem.
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Original post by Talkative Toad
The official opposition depends on the number of MPs (not raw number of votes) doesn’t it? As in the party that has the second most amount of MPs becomes the opposition unless I’m mistaken here?
Yeah it won’t happen unfortunately in my opinion. But yeah having any party other than conservatives as the opposition could push for an electoral reform.
Glad to see that my uni town might become Lib Dem.

That's right, yes, but due to the way FPTP works it is (theoretically) possible for a party to become the official opposition without the 2nd largest share of the national vote.

For the Lib Dems this is within the realm of plausibility because their vote is strongly concentrated in key swing-seats, so they could come 3rd or 4th nationally but 2nd of 3rd in the number of seats. It's similar to how in 2015 the SNP came 3rd in seats but 5th in their share of the vote, simply because all their votes were concentrated in Scotland.

Unlikely to the point of never happening, but technically possible.

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