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oxford vs cambridge?

this is obviously a very common question, but I still want some advice. I'm considering a very niche course, materials science, and currently I've mostly been looking at oxford- but then I learned that cambridge also does it as part of natural sciences. however I have been to both a few times, and I think that possibly oxford is better, but I haven't been to any colleges in cambridge so I can't really know for that either. the fact that in oxford the course is an engineering course instead of a science course is more appealing to me too. I would go to a cambridge open day but they only host them in the summer, and only for year 12s, so I wouldn't be able to go before I had to start preparing for the entrance tests, as I want to start preparing as soon as possible to have the best chance of doing well in them. I understand that this makes it sound like I definitely prefer oxford, but I haven't really been to cambridge as much so I can't make an informed decision- any advice? also I could potentially ask a student I know studying in cambridge currently to go there, but they might be too busy to give a tour so it's not guaranteed that we could.

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Original post by skitter12
this is obviously a very common question, but I still want some advice. I'm considering a very niche course, materials science, and currently I've mostly been looking at oxford- but then I learned that cambridge also does it as part of natural sciences. however I have been to both a few times, and I think that possibly oxford is better, but I haven't been to any colleges in cambridge so I can't really know for that either. the fact that in oxford the course is an engineering course instead of a science course is more appealing to me too. I would go to a cambridge open day but they only host them in the summer, and only for year 12s, so I wouldn't be able to go before I had to start preparing for the entrance tests, as I want to start preparing as soon as possible to have the best chance of doing well in them. I understand that this makes it sound like I definitely prefer oxford, but I haven't really been to cambridge as much so I can't make an informed decision- any advice? also I could potentially ask a student I know studying in cambridge currently to go there, but they might be too busy to give a tour so it's not guaranteed that we could.

what subjects do you do? natural sciences will almost certainly require maths, further maths, physics and chemistry whereas i believe you only need maths and physics for oxford (but further maths and chemistry are recommended)

it would also depends how certain you are that you want to do materials science, because if you definitely want to pursue this, then hands down go for oxford, but if you want a bit more flexibility and a chance to explore different fields, then the natural sciences course is much more flexible and will allow you to do that

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Original post by Anonymous
what subjects do you do? natural sciences will almost certainly require maths, further maths, physics and chemistry whereas i believe you only need maths and physics for oxford (but further maths and chemistry are recommended)
it would also depends how certain you are that you want to do materials science, because if you definitely want to pursue this, then hands down go for oxford, but if you want a bit more flexibility and a chance to explore different fields, then the natural sciences course is much more flexible and will allow you to do that

I'm going to do physics chemistry maths further maths, and currently materials science seems to be the thing I'm most interested in (although I like astrophysics and atomic physics and cloning and stem cell research too), so natural sciences may be more suitable because I have many interests, but also I want an engineering qualification. Also I know that in materials science I can go more biological or more chemistry or more physics focused, and that makes it seem like a really broad degree.

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What subject exploration have you done...books, podcasts, youtube vids etc? Go to the open days at Oxf & Cbg and ask loads of questions of both tutors and students.

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Original post by skitter12
I'm going to do physics chemistry maths further maths, and currently materials science seems to be the thing I'm most interested in (although I like astrophysics and atomic physics and cloning and stem cell research too), so natural sciences may be more suitable because I have many interests, but also I want an engineering qualification. Also I know that in materials science I can go more biological or more chemistry or more physics focused, and that makes it seem like a really broad degree.

No year in industry at either - I'd explore elsewhere.

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Original post by BetaVersion2.9
What subject exploration have you done...books, podcasts, youtube vids etc? Go to the open days at Oxf & Cbg and ask loads of questions of both tutors and students.

for now I've read stuff matters which was really interesting, and I'm doing an engineering course on springpod- I also am planning to do some sort of project in the summer (although I am not sure yet what exactly I want to do). I've also been to an oxford open day specifically for materials science, and I did ask as many questions as possible- I really liked the facilities there and everything sounded really interesting. I would go to the cambridge open day but it says that it's aimed at year 12s, and I'm a year 11 currently so I'm not sure whether I'd be allowed to go because you need to register for their ones while for the oxford one you just turn up. I would go next year but I want to a) start revising for the entrance test well in advance (honestly probably around december year 12 I'd start properly revising) and b) there may be a school trip on the day for the cambridge one abroad in which case I won't be able to go.

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Original post by Muttley79
No year in industry at either - I'd explore elsewhere.

I have looked at other universities like manchester, but I still want to try to apply to oxbridge if I can

Reply 7

Hi, current Cambridge Natsci student here, I took materials in first year and have many friends who have continued with it.

If you're looking for a materials science course that's more engineering based, cambridge is probably not the choice as its materials science course is very much on the mathematical and theoretical side.

On the other hand, I love my Natsci degree, and I think the ability to keep choices open into degree level is great.

But overall from what you've said, it sounds like you like the look of the Oxford course better than the Cambridge one
Original post by skitter12
this is obviously a very common question, but I still want some advice. I'm considering a very niche course, materials science, and currently I've mostly been looking at oxford- but then I learned that cambridge also does it as part of natural sciences. however I have been to both a few times, and I think that possibly oxford is better, but I haven't been to any colleges in cambridge so I can't really know for that either. the fact that in oxford the course is an engineering course instead of a science course is more appealing to me too. I would go to a cambridge open day but they only host them in the summer, and only for year 12s, so I wouldn't be able to go before I had to start preparing for the entrance tests, as I want to start preparing as soon as possible to have the best chance of doing well in them. I understand that this makes it sound like I definitely prefer oxford, but I haven't really been to cambridge as much so I can't make an informed decision- any advice? also I could potentially ask a student I know studying in cambridge currently to go there, but they might be too busy to give a tour so it's not guaranteed that we could.

Materials is an engineering course at Cambridge as much as at Oxford- its accredited by the engineering body for materials.

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Original post by skitter12
I have looked at other universities like manchester, but I still want to try to apply to oxbridge if I can

Yes fine but be aware of the need for work experience when it comes to looking for a job
Original post by skitter12
this is obviously a very common question, but I still want some advice. I'm considering a very niche course, materials science, and currently I've mostly been looking at oxford- but then I learned that cambridge also does it as part of natural sciences. however I have been to both a few times, and I think that possibly oxford is better, but I haven't been to any colleges in cambridge so I can't really know for that either. the fact that in oxford the course is an engineering course instead of a science course is more appealing to me too. I would go to a cambridge open day but they only host them in the summer, and only for year 12s, so I wouldn't be able to go before I had to start preparing for the entrance tests, as I want to start preparing as soon as possible to have the best chance of doing well in them. I understand that this makes it sound like I definitely prefer oxford, but I haven't really been to cambridge as much so I can't make an informed decision- any advice? also I could potentially ask a student I know studying in cambridge currently to go there, but they might be too busy to give a tour so it's not guaranteed that we could.

I don't know how much I can assist with your conundrum but I should mention you are absolutely allowed to come and have a look at Cambridge colleges on their open days, even if you're not a Year 12. I've worked at multiple open days and the colleges are often just completely open.

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Original post by Fibonacci28
Hi, current Cambridge Natsci student here, I took materials in first year and have many friends who have continued with it.
If you're looking for a materials science course that's more engineering based, cambridge is probably not the choice as its materials science course is very much on the mathematical and theoretical side.
On the other hand, I love my Natsci degree, and I think the ability to keep choices open into degree level is great.
But overall from what you've said, it sounds like you like the look of the Oxford course better than the Cambridge one
Thank you, I do quite like the biological materials aspect of the cambridge course too because it seems that at oxford there isn't as much teaching about that. I'm not really sure to what extent I'd want the course to be engineering focused- I'm still not certain which part I find the most interesting. Also, do you think I would study more in depth about materials in oxford because the first year isn't split into multiple subjects?

Reply 12

Original post by Muttley79
Yes fine but be aware of the need for work experience when it comes to looking for a job

Yeah, I've thought of that but I've read that oxbridge often do summer work placements which I would try to get involved in (if I got in obviously)

Reply 13

Original post by artful_lounger
Materials is an engineering course at Cambridge as much as at Oxford- its accredited by the engineering body for materials.

Thank you so much! I didn't realise that because I didn't find the information first.. although now it's a harder choice between them I guess..

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Original post by melancollege
I don't know how much I can assist with your conundrum but I should mention you are absolutely allowed to come and have a look at Cambridge colleges on their open days, even if you're not a Year 12. I've worked at multiple open days and the colleges are often just completely open.

Oh that's good, thank you! So they definitely won't mind if I come to a subject lecture and I'm younger?
Original post by skitter12
Oh that's good, thank you! So they definitely won't mind if I come to a subject lecture and I'm younger?

I'll be honest I have no idea about subject lectures as I've only ever worked open days at my college and never with my subject. Saying that, I'd assume it's fine if you're Year 11, especially as some students would use them to help them choose their A-Levels. You'd have to ask but for Materials Science, because it isn't offered at A-Level, they may well be more lenient. They may have a sign-up thing in which case if you need to be Year 12, they'll tell you, but you can try and sign up and see. If they don't explicitly say you need to be, you can probably assume you're in the clear.

In terms of visiting the colleges, you absolutely can in Year 11.

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Original post by skitter12
Yeah, I've thought of that but I've read that oxbridge often do summer work placements which I would try to get involved in (if I got in obviously)

A summer is nowhere near as good as a year where you get your own project.

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Original post by melancollege
I'll be honest I have no idea about subject lectures as I've only ever worked open days at my college and never with my subject. Saying that, I'd assume it's fine if you're Year 11, especially as some students would use them to help them choose their A-Levels. You'd have to ask but for Materials Science, because it isn't offered at A-Level, they may well be more lenient. They may have a sign-up thing in which case if you need to be Year 12, they'll tell you, but you can try and sign up and see. If they don't explicitly say you need to be, you can probably assume you're in the clear.
In terms of visiting the colleges, you absolutely can in Year 11.

Ok thank you so much, I'll see if I can sign up for the open day now 🙂 Although I haven't done much research into cambridge colleges between the end of gcses and the open day should be plenty of time
Original post by skitter12
Ok thank you so much, I'll see if I can sign up for the open day now 🙂 Although I haven't done much research into cambridge colleges between the end of gcses and the open day should be plenty of time

Of course :smile:

If you have any idea of what sort of things you'd want in a college, I'm happy to give suggestions. Things like size, location, etc

Reply 19

Couple of points

You’re absolutely allowed to attend Cambridge open days at any age, so just get yourself along.

Perhaps choose the course rather than the university

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