DIfference between 9709 and 9709/22

Original post by KemalA

You initially refer to "Mathematics 9709", and then talk about "Mathematics 9707/22 and 9707/42". Given that you're consistently referring to Mathematics, for which Cambridge International used the code 9709, I assume you're talking about 9709/22 and 9709/42.

The first digit after the slash is the component number, and the digit after that is the variant number.

There are six Mathematics components available:

Paper 1: Pure Mathematics 1
Paper 2: Pure Mathematics 2
Paper 3: Pure Mathematics 3
Paper 4: Mechanics
Paper 5: Probability & Statistics 1
Paper 6: Probability & Statistics 2

At AS level, you would take:
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 2 (Pure Mathematics 2)
OR
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 4 (Mechanics)
OR
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 5 (Probability & Statistics 1)

The variant number (the final digit) is because these exams are taken in different time zones, so they produce different variants for different regions. This prevents someone who's already taken the exam in one part of world passing on datails to someone in a different time zone, where they've yet to sit the paper.

Which components will you be taking? (Note that the "Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 2 (Pure Mathematics 2)" combination is AS level only and does not allow progression to A level.

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Original post by DataVenia

You initially refer to "Mathematics 9709", and then talk about "Mathematics 9707/22 and 9707/42". Given that you're consistently referring to Mathematics, for which Cambridge International used the code 9709, I assume you're talking about 9709/22 and 9709/42.
The first digit after the slash is the component number, and the digit after that is the variant number.
There are six Mathematics components available:
Paper 1: Pure Mathematics 1
Paper 2: Pure Mathematics 2
Paper 3: Pure Mathematics 3
Paper 4: Mechanics
Paper 5: Probability & Statistics 1
Paper 6: Probability & Statistics 2
At AS level, you would take:
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 2 (Pure Mathematics 2)
OR
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 4 (Mechanics)
OR
Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 5 (Probability & Statistics 1)
The variant number (the final digit) is because these exams are taken in different time zones, so they produce different variants for different regions. This prevents someone who's already taken the exam in one part of world passing on datails to someone in a different time zone, where they've yet to sit the paper.
Which components will you be taking? (Note that the "Paper 1 (Pure Mathematics 1) and Paper 2 (Pure Mathematics 2)" combination is AS level only and does not allow progression to A level.

Thank you for pointing out my mistake

I l be taking paper 1 and paper 4

Reply 3

Original post by KemalA

Thank you for pointing out my mistake

I l be taking paper 1 and paper 4

OK. So you should looking for 9709/12 and 9709/42 on the timetable. (Assuming you're in region 2.)

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No I live in South Africa so i should be in zone 3

Can you please tell me rest of my subjects as well

Mathematics 9709
Physics 9702
Computer Science 9618

Thank you

Reply 5

Original post by KemalA

No I live in South Africa so i should be in zone 3

Can you please tell me rest of my subjects as well

Mathematics 9709
Physics 9702
Computer Science 9618

Thank you

OK. So for CIE Mathematics AS level, swap the final 2 in each of those paper codes for a 3.

For Physics AS Level, you'll be doing three papers: Paper 1, Paper 2 and Paper 3. (See the syllabus, here, for further details.) If you're in region 3, then the paper codes will be 9702/13, 9702/23 and 9702/33.

For CIE Computer Science AS Level, you'll be doing Paper 1 and Paper 2. See the syllabus, here, for further details.) The paper codes follow the same pattern, so they'll be 9618/13 and 9618/23.

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Can you please be more spesific with the maths and thank you for the rest

I am gonna write Pure Mathematics Paper 1 And Paper 4

Thank you.

Reply 7

Like for example i am checking the administrative zone 3 Exam time table from cambridge official website
You said for Physics i need to get 9702/13 But there is only 9702/12

Reply 8

Original post by KemalA

Can you please be more spesific with the maths and thank you for the rest

I am gonna write Pure Mathematics Paper 1 And Paper 4

Thank you.

Original post by KemalA

Like for example i am checking the administrative zone 3 Exam time table from cambridge official website
You said for Physics i need to get 9702/13 But there is only 9702/12

I have checked the Cambridge Final Exam Timetable November 2024 for Administrative Zone 3 (here), and agree that they are not always using the paper designed for zone/region 3. I have no explanation for that, nor can I find one on their web site. My assumption is that for reasons of practicality, they are not making a separate paper for each and every zone/region.

You are looking at the correct timetable, so simply ignore the last digit. From that timetable:
• Mathematics AS Level - 9709/12 and 9709/42
• Physics AS Level 9702 - 9702/12, 9702/22 and 9702/33*
• Computer Science AS Level 9618 - 9618/11 and 9618/21

*For Physics Paper 3 (Practical - Advanced) there are actually two timetabled codes: 9702/33 and 9702/34. I do not know which you would be taking, but would guess 9702/33.

Has your exam centre not given you any guidance here?

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Original post by DataVenia

I have checked the Cambridge Final Exam Timetable November 2024 for Administrative Zone 3 (here), and agree that they are not always using the paper designed for zone/region 3. I have no explanation for that, nor can I find one on their web site. My assumption is that for reasons of practicality, they are not making a separate paper for each and every zone/region.
You are looking at the correct timetable, so simply ignore the last digit. From that timetable:
• Mathematics AS Level - 9709/12 and 9709/42
• Physics AS Level 9702 - 9702/12, 9702/22 and 9702/33*
• Computer Science AS Level 9618 - 9618/11 and 9618/21
*For Physics Paper 3 (Practical - Advanced) there are actually two timetabled codes: 9702/33 and 9702/34. I do not know which you would be taking, but would guess 9702/33.
Has your exam centre not given you any guidance here?

Thank you for this information

My exam centre told me that they didnt recieve the information about the exams yet and they would only recieve after the registration which is in July so i hope they would give me information in July

Also I am thinking about signing up to website called Uplearn to support my studies

Do you have any information about that. Will it be usefull for A levels and is it worth it.

Thank you.

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Original post by KemalA

OK, fair enough.

Original post by KemalA

Also I am thinking about signing up to website called Uplearn to support my studies

Do you have any information about that. Will it be usefull for A levels and is it worth it.

Thank you.

I've not used Uplearn myself, but I know someone who's currently using it for A level Biology and is pleased with it. Whether or not it's actually any good is impossible to say, as even if they get their target grade on results day they won't know what grade they would have got had they used a different approach.

One point I would make is to ignore the money-back guarantee. It gives one confidence that it must be a decent product, right? Well, the guarantee is effectively worthless, as it only pays out if "a student gets to 90% or above across the full course, and maintains this up to the day of their exam." That's apparently extremely hard to do. This doesn't devalue the product - just the guarantee.

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Also a teacher suggested this once website called savemyexams.com i am in between both of them because for maths Uplearn has CIE exam board for Maths but not for Physics. So i need more study support. Do you have any other websites that could work. Cause for my instance i didnt study anything for the last 6 months cause i had to work. So i need full explanation for all the subjects from the basics.

Thank you.

Reply 12

Original post by KemalA

I don't have any particular recommendations, I'm afraid. Can I suggest you create a new thread in the Maths or Physics forum asking what resources people found most useful?

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