ITV Debate: Starmer vs Sunak 4th June 9pm - are you watching?

Reply 80

CatusStarbright

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by hh1209

Ive not seen any debates in France. Can you give me some to watch just to see how it is?

Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKtZprAHJwM&ab_channel=FRANCE24English

Reply 81

Rakas21

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by CatusStarbright

Pensioners already pay tax... no?

Not on the state pension since it's below the tax threshold.

Basically Labour will keep the threshold frozen, Tories will increase it.

There might be a grab somewhere too on richer pensioners.

Reply 82

Rakas21

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Sunak was very good on the foreign policy answer.

Reply 83

username6682389

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"Situation in Gaza is catastrophic." - Starmer on Gazans fighting for freedom
"We will accept Ukranians in the country." - Starmer on Ukranians migrating here
"I am glad Starmer is agreeing with me on the Gaza war" - Rishi

Every PM will be the same IMO. Doesnt matter who gets voted

Reply 84

username6682389

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by Rakas21

Not on the state pension since it's below the tax threshold.
Basically Labour will keep the threshold frozen, Tories will increase it.
There might be a grab somewhere too on richer pensioners.

Other way round no? I thought Labour increasing and Tories keeping same

Reply 85

CatusStarbright

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by hh1209

Other way round no? I thought Labour increasing and Tories keeping same

Both are true - you have to think about inflation.

Reply 86

username6682389

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"I dont think british people should be solving climate crisis ourselves" - code for we wont do sh*t

Reply 87

Rakas21

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by Talkative Toad

That’s a good thing as long as there’s proper negotiation in my opinion.

That's not a good thing when we have a fiscal deficit and a waiting list. What your saying in essence is that you want me (not sure of your current employment situation) to pay for above inflation salary increases.

Reply 88

Talkative Toad

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Rishi takes this one

Reply 89

Rakas21

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Sunak is definitely more comfortable the last 15 minutes or so, much more polished.

Starmer is not bad but I think he's used to turn based court room stuff and looks a bit flummoxed at times. He's also going into a lot of detail which won't make the news at 10 clips or breakfast tomorrow.

Reply 90

londonmyst

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by Talkative Toad

Rishi takes this one

Do you think that he performed best in this evening's debate?

Reply 91

username6682389

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by Talkative Toad

Rishi takes this one

he is talking better and probably answering the questions better. He needs more comebacks than taxes rising tho because inflation will cancel out the tax rise to an extent

Reply 92

Talkative Toad

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by Rakas21

That's not a good thing when we have a fiscal deficit and a waiting list. What your saying in essence is that you want me (not sure of your current employment situation) to pay for above inflation salary increases.

Given the low salary of NHS workers they need to be paid more in my a opinion or you’ll have less workers in the NHS.

I could rant about the NHS all day but the workers aren’t paid enough.

Reply 93

CatusStarbright

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"If you think Labour are gonna win, start saving." - Sunak

A decent soundbite there! He's definitely leaning on scaremongering about the economy under a Labour government.

Reply 94

Rakas21

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by hh1209

Other way round no? I thought Labour increasing and Tories keeping same

No. The triple lock plus basically means the Tories will codify tax threshold increases for pensioners into law.

Labour so far will freeze the tax thresholds so more pensioners will move into paying tax.

(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 95

username6682389

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by londonmyst

Do you think that he performed best in this evening's debate?

easily

Reply 96

Talkative Toad

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by hh1209

he is talking better and probably answering the questions better. He needs more comebacks than taxes rising tho because inflation will cancel out the tax rise to an extent