Engineering without furthermaths at top unis?

Hello, i have picked alevels maths, physics annd computing / chemistry for engineering, however i am not doing further maths as of now because we can only pick that as a 4th subject.
I know this question has been asked loads of times but i wanted to ask if there are people who HAVE been offered a place at Oxford, UCL, Imperial, Warwick o KCL for engineering...
Thanks a lot

Hi!! I have not applied to any of those universities, but I know people who have applied both there and for engineering and gotten in and most of them did not do further maths, though all of them did maths and most of the time physics, so I think you’ll be okay !! If you’re really not sure about it then contact the universities directly and usually they’ll tell you all about entry requirements 🙂

Tysm really reassuring 🙂 Which of the unis did they get offers from if you dont mind me asking?

I know one for Oxford (he did further maths but I don’t think it was a necessary subject he just did it), and also I know a girl who is going to Cambridge to do engineering and she didn’t so further maths, and then I know one other person who’s going to Warwick

Wow Cambridge with no further maths is impressive! Did they all have a really good PS?

Hello, i have picked alevels maths, physics annd computing / chemistry for engineering, however i am not doing further maths as of now because we can only pick that as a 4th subject.
I know this question has been asked loads of times but i wanted to ask if there are people who HAVE been offered a place at Oxford, UCL, Imperial, Warwick o KCL for engineering...
Thanks a lot

There are plenty of top Unis for Engineering where you don't need FM - Bath, Bristol, Southampton as examples.

Hello, i have picked alevels maths, physics annd computing / chemistry for engineering, however i am not doing further maths as of now because we can only pick that as a 4th subject.
I know this question has been asked loads of times but i wanted to ask if there are people who HAVE been offered a place at Oxford, UCL, Imperial, Warwick o KCL for engineering...
Thanks a lot

Hello, i have picked alevels maths, physics annd computing / chemistry for engineering, however i am not doing further maths as of now because we can only pick that as a 4th subject.
I know this question has been asked loads of times but i wanted to ask if there are people who HAVE been offered a place at Oxford, UCL, Imperial, Warwick o KCL for engineering...
Thanks a lot

Hi, for engineering no universities need FM, but it is reccomended in some. It is recommended in Bath and Bristol i am pretty sure.
Some courses at even Imperial don't state that they need further maths, for example chemical engineering and Design engineering.

Hello, i have picked alevels maths, physics annd computing / chemistry for engineering, however i am not doing further maths as of now because we can only pick that as a 4th subject.
I know this question has been asked loads of times but i wanted to ask if there are people who HAVE been offered a place at Oxford, UCL, Imperial, Warwick o KCL for engineering...
Thanks a lot

Hi! I applied in the 2023 cycle and got offers from manchester, st andrews, Edinburgh and imperial for material engineering/chemical engineering. I did chemistry, music, maths, and Chinese and got A*A*AA with A* in maths and music. Definitely don't need to do fm and I didn't even do physics, but definitely check your course requirements and bump up your application with work experience/a good personal statement

From Bath's website -
"You will need a strong performance in both Mathematics and Physics or Engineering as part of your entry qualifications. ...... Further Mathematics is not required for this course. If you do study Further Mathematics, you must still achieve A in both Maths and Physics."

Further maths is generally not essential but strongly advised for any engineering student (in practice the content is probably more relevant then physics or chemistry at A-level standard). Imo youll be best off just studying four A-levels.
I suppose “top unis” is subjective but I wouldn’t consider UCL, Kings & Warwick as particularly notable engineering programs (maybe Warwick in auto manufacturing but not across the board).

Hmm I would suggest speaking to your college if they'd by any chance let you take further maths as a third subject instead of chemistry/computing, as for Oxford and Cambridge this does have a significant impact on your chances, I can't speak for Oxford exactly but for Cambridge the chances are disproportionally larger for people doing further maths, even if doing it as a third A level and that's despite Cambridge saying they may be concerned about maths+fm+physics combination due to lower workload from similar subjects - which Oxford itself doesn't say, for them 3 a levels seem to be sufficient.
Correlation doesn't mean causation but id imagine a part of this will be because of how you'd do at entrance exams/interviews with vs without further maths knowledge. However there are still a few people who do get in without further maths to Ox and Cam, it definitely won't be a majority though. Id imagine it may also be useful for imperial unless they change the tests.

Thank you 🙂 Do you think it is a good idea to do 4 a-levels? I persoanlly think i wont be able to handle the workload, i am currently in year 11 doing my GCSEs and aiming for all 8s and 9s, but ive always gotten 7s, 8s, 9s do you think it is managable?

Yes, it used to be very normal to do 4 A-levels back in the days when you had to do AS levels. A-levels are undoubtedly a significant step ip from GCSEs but also quite a significant step behind an engineering degree. it’s more about adjusting to the new standard. Maths, further maths & physics also all benefit from a fair amount of cross political in content.