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How much empathy is considered bad???

I lent an old friend hundreds of pounds 2 years ago when he claimed to have become homeless because I was afraid of him dying on the street. He never paid me back a single penny. He even tried to coax me into lending him more by accusing me of being "heartless" for not wanting to do so. I ultimately turned it down because of this.

He has disappeared since last year. His Facebook, the only channel contactable, is no longer in use. Still, I am more concerned about his life rather than what he owes me.

As a side note, I am also more willing to help beggars than my peers who tend to see them as scammers as I believe that it'd be the most stupid way to be a scammer by sitting in the cold all the day long, risking harassment by police or gangsters while everyone recognises them.

Have I got too much empathy? How much empathy is considered bad???

Reply 1

I am similar to you! But instead of spending your money on people in rich countries, I suggest you might want to donate to people to whom you money could change their lives. If you are empathetic that is wonderful! But weaponise it for positive change! https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/dashboard/pledge ---this website is excellent for finding out who to donate to. Nothing is inherently good or bad, but I personally love empathetic people, and im sure you will find more people like you

Reply 2

Original post by hehehehee
I am similar to you! But instead of spending your money on people in rich countries, I suggest you might want to donate to people to whom you money could change their lives. If you are empathetic that is wonderful! But weaponise it for positive change! https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/dashboard/pledge ---this website is excellent for finding out who to donate to. Nothing is inherently good or bad, but I personally love empathetic people, and im sure you will find more people like you

Thank you so much!

Reply 3

Original post by Anonymous
I lent an old friend hundreds of pounds 2 years ago when he claimed to have become homeless because I was afraid of him dying on the street. He never paid me back a single penny. He even tried to coax me into lending him more by accusing me of being "heartless" for not wanting to do so. I ultimately turned it down because of this.
He has disappeared since last year. His Facebook, the only channel contactable, is no longer in use. Still, I am more concerned about his life rather than what he owes me.
As a side note, I am also more willing to help beggars than my peers who tend to see them as scammers as I believe that it'd be the most stupid way to be a scammer by sitting in the cold all the day long, risking harassment by police or gangsters while everyone recognises them.
Have I got too much empathy? How much empathy is considered bad???

Your problem is that you think you have empathy, but what you actually have is gullibility. You aren't sharing someone's plight, you are being taken advantage of by them. You are the victim. Not them.

Most beggars are scammers. The majority are not rough sleepers and those that are are often rough sleeping by choice.

If you give money to someone on the street or on a train, it is almost certain that they will be spending that money on drugs. They will never ever ever be spending it on a hostel. If a woman is sitting down and crying in the street whilst begging, it is because she has heard that someone else does it and makes more money by doing so. If someone has a sign that says "I am hungry, God bless you", they are part of an organised begging gang and this is their full time job. If someone has a dog with them, it's because they think that people are more likely to give money to a dog.

Chances are all you are doing is buying drugs for someone else.
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Reply 4

Original post by Anonymous
I lent an old friend hundreds of pounds 2 years ago when he claimed to have become homeless because I was afraid of him dying on the street. He never paid me back a single penny. He even tried to coax me into lending him more by accusing me of being "heartless" for not wanting to do so. I ultimately turned it down because of this.
He has disappeared since last year. His Facebook, the only channel contactable, is no longer in use. Still, I am more concerned about his life rather than what he owes me.
As a side note, I am also more willing to help beggars than my peers who tend to see them as scammers as I believe that it'd be the most stupid way to be a scammer by sitting in the cold all the day long, risking harassment by police or gangsters while everyone recognises them.
Have I got too much empathy? How much empathy is considered bad???

Empathy isn’t a bad thing. I think it shows a lot of strength that despite being wronged yourself, you’re still concerned abt their well-being. I admire that this hasn’t made u bitter bc I sure as hell would be. It’s important to realise, not everyone has ur best interests at heart. People tend to see kindness as weakness and an open invitation to take advantage of it and walk all over you. Ask yourself, if I were in the same situation, would I myself receive the kindness I want to give out? Yes, good deeds should be unconditional and things shouldn’t be expected in return but there’s nothing wrong with putting urself 1st. Kindness shouldn’t be given at the expense of ur own and u are js as worthy of kindness as everyone else. So find someone who is willing to put in js as much effort into a relationship as you are, someone who values u js as much as u value them. Don’t bother trying to help someone when u and I both know that those feelings aren’t reciprocated. It’s a waste of ur time and he isn’t worth it.

Reply 5

Empathy is not a bad thing. However, money alone will not help.
If someone asks me for money I ask them what for. If it is for food, I'll give them food, if it for meds, I'll buy them meds. Most scammers are not accepting real help, they just want the money or want money for drugs or alcohol.
As for your friend, I never was in a situation like that, so I can't say anything, but I think I'd offer a place to live for a while and help the person get a job and learn to manage the money better. I'm in a different situation. Our household have a place for another person and I can even arrange a place in my room, so hosting someone for a while is not a problem. I know not everyone can do it.
Also, I would still be worried about your friend well being.

Reply 6

Original post by Trinculo
Your problem is that you think you have empathy, but what you actually have is gullibility. You aren't sharing someone's plight, you are being taken advantage of by them. You are the victim. Not them.
Most beggars are scammers. The majority are not rough sleepers and those that are are often rough sleeping by choice.
If you give money to someone on the street or on a train, it is almost certain that they will be spending that money on drugs. They will never ever ever be spending it on a hostel. If a woman is sitting down and crying in the street whilst begging, it is because she has heard that someone else does it and makes more money by doing so. If someone has a sign that says "I am hungry, God bless you", they are part of an organised begging gang and this is their full time job. If someone has a dog with them, it's because they think that people are more likely to give money to a dog.
Chances are all you are doing is buying drugs for someone else.


To read this and say they do not have empathy shows a lack of empathy or a lack of understanding as to what empathy is, they clearly have a kind heart and care for the plight of others. Most ppl would not help out a friend in such a way and your mentality about rough sleepers is disgraceful.

Reply 7

Original post by Anonymous
To read this and say they do not have empathy shows a lack of empathy or a lack of understanding as to what empathy is, they clearly have a kind heart and care for the plight of others. Most ppl would not help out a friend in such a way and your mentality about rough sleepers is disgraceful.

True. I am somehow shocked by his generalisation.

Reply 8

Original post by Anonymous
To read this and say they do not have empathy shows a lack of empathy or a lack of understanding as to what empathy is, they clearly have a kind heart and care for the plight of others. Most ppl would not help out a friend in such a way and your mentality about rough sleepers is disgraceful.

This is the problem. You believe what you're told by people in the street who are asking for money.

Reply 9

Original post by Trinculo
This is the problem. You believe what you're told by people in the street who are asking for money.
PRSOM

Reply 10

Original post by Trinculo
Your problem is that you think you have empathy, but what you actually have is gullibility. You aren't sharing someone's plight, you are being taken advantage of by them. You are the victim. Not them.
Most beggars are scammers. The majority are not rough sleepers and those that are are often rough sleeping by choice.
If you give money to someone on the street or on a train, it is almost certain that they will be spending that money on drugs. They will never ever ever be spending it on a hostel. If a woman is sitting down and crying in the street whilst begging, it is because she has heard that someone else does it and makes more money by doing so. If someone has a sign that says "I am hungry, God bless you", they are part of an organised begging gang and this is their full time job. If someone has a dog with them, it's because they think that people are more likely to give money to a dog.
Chances are all you are doing is buying drugs for someone else.

that's half true I guess

Reply 11

Empathy is great until it crosses the line and you then have poor boundaries.

The fact that you were willing to part with hundreds of pounds for someone you didn't know would definitely pay you because indicates poor boundaries to me. I don't mean to say don't lend people your money, just don't expect it back unless this person has a history of consistently paying you back less. Empathise at arms length, and help people to help themselves. It's not your job to fix them, and if they can't be fixed then recognise that quickly and leave the situation before you're the one getting hurt.

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