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How do police download phone data

My phone has been siezed by the police to try and prove I sent some emails from a Gmail account. I have deleted the app from that phone and deleted that Gmail account. Can the police recover this?

I also had a photo on there which I deleted. Can they recover this?

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Reply 1

Original post by Anonymous1569
My phone has been siezed by the police to try and prove I sent some emails from a Gmail account. I have deleted the app from that phone and deleted that Gmail account. Can the police recover this?
I also had a photo on there which I deleted. Can they recover this?

If you've provided them with the means to unlock the phone, then recovering that data will be trivial either from the storage or from backups. Even without this, with the right info from your ISP they will almost certainly be able to associate your phone with those messages being sent.

Reply 2

Original post by TNGFR
If you've provided them with the means to unlock the phone, then recovering that data will be trivial either from the storage or from backups. Even without this, with the right info from your ISP they will almost certainly be able to associate your phone with those messages being sent.


Yes bit that Google account has been deleted so how would that affect it?

Also what about that photo? I've been told they are not necessarily looking for that photo but how likely are they to recover deleted photos i.e. how can they find it if they don't know what there looking for?

Is it true the police/cps are understaffed and prioritise putting resources into more serious cases?

Reply 3

Original post by Anonymous1569
Yes bit that Google account has been deleted so how would that affect it?
Also what about that photo? I've been told they are not necessarily looking for that photo but how likely are they to recover deleted photos i.e. how can they find it if they don't know what there looking for?
Is it true the police/cps are understaffed and prioritise putting resources into more serious cases?

Anything that was stored locally on your phone is almost certainly still recoverable, they will find the data associated with the data contained in the emails they're trying to find the source of. And even if you delete the account, the data of everything it sent and received will probably sit on Google's server in perpetuity, precisely for moments like this where they might have to comply with requests from law enforcement.

They don't need to know what they're looking for if they simply look at everything.

I can't speak for the state of funding for the digital forensics team of whatever department has your phone, however my guess is if didn't have the resources or intention of searching your phone, they wouldn't have bothered confiscating it in the first place.

Reply 4

Original post by TNGFR
Anything that was stored locally on your phone is almost certainly still recoverable, they will find the data associated with the data contained in the emails they're trying to find the source of. And even if you delete the account, the data of everything it sent and received will probably sit on Google's server in perpetuity, precisely for moments like this where they might have to comply with requests from law enforcement.
They don't need to know what they're looking for if they simply look at everything.
I can't speak for the state of funding for the digital forensics team of whatever department has your phone, however my guess is if didn't have the resources or intention of searching your phone, they wouldn't have bothered confiscating it in the first place.


What do you mean locally?
Original post by Anonymous1569
What do you mean locally?

Stored directly on the phone itself, not online/cloud storage.

In all honesty I think you will struggle to find someone on a student forum who is familiar with the inner workings of police data recovery techniques.

Reply 6

Original post by Admit-One
Stored directly on the phone itself, not online/cloud storage.
In all honesty I think you will struggle to find someone on a student forum who is familiar with the inner workings of police data recovery techniques.


There's a chance my current predicament could go away......

I just pray and wish that the photo does not get recovered. It's nothing explicit but it could make my situation worse.

It's the worst feeling in the world when it's hanging over your head every day...

Reply 7

Original post by Anonymous1569
What do you mean locally?

Saved onto the phone's storage rather than just being accessed over the internet.

Reply 8

There's nothing I can do now....my life is in the hands of someone and if they decide to give a statement then I've had it. I've lost it all....my job my clean record.

I keep telling myself the allegation isn't too serious hence why the main complaint hasn't even given a statement

Reply 9

Original post by Anonymous1569
There's nothing I can do now....my life is in the hands of someone and if they decide to give a statement then I've had it. I've lost it all....my job my clean record.
I keep telling myself the allegation isn't too serious hence why the main complaint hasn't even given a statement

Sounds like you should speak to a solicitor and follow their advice, I'd you haven't already.

Reply 10

Original post by TNGFR
Sounds like you should speak to a solicitor and follow their advice, I'd you haven't already.


I have I'm on police bail being investigated hence why the police have taken my phone.

At my interview I made it clelar to my solicitor i'm happy to plead guilty if it means I don't have to go through this every day with this hanging over my head but there was a lack of evidence.

Also what tactics can the police use to get a statement out of someone? Surely they can't manipulate or vrive or coerce someone?

Reply 11

Original post by Anonymous1569
I have I'm on police bail being investigated hence why the police have taken my phone.
At my interview I made it clelar to my solicitor i'm happy to plead guilty if it means I don't have to go through this every day with this hanging over my head but there was a lack of evidence.
Also what tactics can the police use to get a statement out of someone? Surely they can't manipulate or vrive or coerce someone?

That's a question for your solicitor, I just know a bit about phones.

Reply 12

Well I've been told that there not looking for that all there trying to prove Is that I sent them emails. When I was arrested they only took my phone not any other devices

Reply 13

Original post by Anonymous1569
Well I've been told that there not looking for that all there trying to prove Is that I sent them emails. When I was arrested they only took my phone not any other devices

Since they're almost certainly going to find them, is your solicitor not suggesting you cooperate with them?

Reply 14

We have been cooperating he just thinks there not going to spend that much effort in going through my whole phone

Reply 15

Why would the police waste time and resources trying to search my phone when that's not what there looking for?

I know what evidence Is on that phone but they don't. All they know is I sent some emails from that phone and that's what they are trying to recover.
Original post by Anonymous1569
There's nothing I can do now....my life is in the hands of someone and if they decide to give a statement then I've had it. I've lost it all....my job my clean record.
I keep telling myself the allegation isn't too serious hence why the main complaint hasn't even given a statement

The police can still investigate an alleged offence without a formal complaint, same as a prosecution can go ahead without the victim's if it meets a two-stage test: is there enough evidence against the defendant (a realistic prospect of conviction) and is it in the public interest for the CPS to bring the case to court?

It happened with the high-profile assault case against Caroline Flack, where it went ahead without the allegation being supported of her boyfriend.

Reply 17

Original post by Surnia
The police can still investigate an alleged offence without a formal complaint, same as a prosecution can go ahead without the victim's if it meets a two-stage test: is there enough evidence against the defendant (a realistic prospect of conviction) and is it in the public interest for the CPS to bring the case to court?
It happened with the high-profile assault case against Caroline Flack, where it went ahead without the allegation being supported of her boyfriend.


That's true bit this isn't a rape case or a domestic abuse case where the victim is too scared or embarrassed. If my complainant really wanted to take action she would have but she didn't even when the police approached her.

All the evidence they have is a bunch of emails 2 statements from the university staff and my phone (there's no guarantee they will find anything). So this can't become a victimless prosecution as they have nothing from the victom.
Original post by Anonymous1569
That's true bit this isn't a rape case or a domestic abuse case where the victim is too scared or embarrassed. If my complainant really wanted to take action she would have but she didn't even when the police approached her.
All the evidence they have is a bunch of emails 2 statements from the university staff and my phone (there's no guarantee they will find anything). So this can't become a victimless prosecution as they have nothing from the victom.

So they've got evidence against you, and if this stalking and harassment why wouldn't the victim be feeling scared and not want to make a statement?

Reply 19

Original post by Surnia
So they've got evidence against you, and if this stalking and harassment why wouldn't the victim be feeling scared and not want to make a statement?


Exactly that's the big question. If this was a really serious allegation why has she not given a statement? She either feels it's not serious enough or she can move past it.

There isn't enough evidence because they have nothing from her other than hearsay evidence and even then she more or less said it hasn't bothered her that much. There's no 911 call from her no body cam footage so why are cps going to waste time and resources and how can this be a victimless prosecution without anything from her?

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