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Clearing for computer science

I’m in yr 12 rn and I’m probably going to get predicted ABC/ABB (I’m most worried as my worst subject was maths which is a key skill in computer science). My parents are adamant on me taking a gap yr, as they think I’ll just be lazy, so my only choices r settle for a ok uni or go into clearing. What unis would take my grades/what unis that are like russel group standard/good for comp sci go into clearing typically?

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Reply 1

Original post by jessster555
I’m in yr 12 rn and I’m probably going to get predicted ABC/ABB (I’m most worried as my worst subject was maths which is a key skill in computer science). My parents are adamant on me taking a gap yr, as they think I’ll just be lazy, so my only choices r settle for a ok uni or go into clearing. What unis would take my grades/what unis that are like russel group standard/good for comp sci go into clearing typically?

Typically you wont get into RG universities through clearing for CS with your grades. CS is one of the most in demand courses and only a few RG universities will need to enter clearing and they arent likely to drop grades much if at all. There will probably be many other universities in clearing though.

Reply 2

I think the lowest standard offer this year from a Russell group Uni is Cardiff at ABB.
But you can hedge your bets, apply in year 13 but then take a gap year if your results do not end with an offer you want.
Now is the time to go to some open days and see what some of these places are like. You have time to pull your grades up.

Reply 3

You are only in Year 12. You do not need to rely on Clearing.
If you pick 5 strategic UCAS choices with a range of grade requirements, you will get realistic offers.
If you do better than expected in August 2025, then you could reapply to other Unis the following year with achieved grades.

Look at these ABB courses - and don't make knee-jerk assumptions about the Unis
Undergraduate Courses, Degrees : Study : University of Sussex
Undergraduate courses | School of Computing and Mathematical Sciences | University of Leicester
Computer Science undergraduate courses - Swansea University
All Degree, Foundation & Short Courses City, University of London
Course Search | University of East Anglia (uea.ac.uk)
Original post by jessster555
I’m in yr 12 rn and I’m probably going to get predicted ABC/ABB (I’m most worried as my worst subject was maths which is a key skill in computer science). My parents are adamant on me taking a gap yr, as they think I’ll just be lazy, so my only choices r settle for a ok uni or go into clearing. What unis would take my grades/what unis that are like russel group standard/good for comp sci go into clearing typically?

I think the bigger issue here is that you note your worst subject is maths but are still focused on doing CS at degree level.

I think maybe you need to reflect on whether you realistically will succeed on such a course even if you were admitted.

Note also research has found that employment outcomes for students on STEM and non-STEM degrees in the UK do not show differences in the long run and graduates from both sides had equivalent salaries and job roles within 10 years of graduation: https://figshare.le.ac.uk/articles/report/The_employment_trajectories_of_Science_Technology_Engineering_and_Mathematics_graduates/10234421

Also CS in the UK had such poor graduate prospects the government had to commission two inquiries into the matter about 8-10 years ago.

So if you're trying to force yourself down the CS path in spite of not being good at the relevant subjects because you think it will have better career outcomes - it won't, so you should focus on identifying a degree that plays to your strengths.

Reply 5

There’s plenty of good CS courses with a year in industry/placement available for ABC-ABB without bothering with the over-subscribed and over theoretical RG courses.

Reply 6

Original post by swanseajack1
Typically you wont get into RG universities through clearing for CS with your grades. CS is one of the most in demand courses and only a few RG universities will need to enter clearing and they arent likely to drop grades much if at all. There will probably be many other universities in clearing though.


if I were to do exceptionally well (almost like a redemption type of thing), then my chances would exponentially increase right?

Reply 7

Original post by totallyfine
I think the lowest standard offer this year from a Russell group Uni is Cardiff at ABB.
But you can hedge your bets, apply in year 13 but then take a gap year if your results do not end with an offer you want.
Now is the time to go to some open days and see what some of these places are like. You have time to pull your grades up.


Ok I’ll keep that in mind (thank u!!)

Reply 8

Original post by McGinger
You are only in Year 12. You do not need to rely on Clearing.
If you pick 5 strategic UCAS choices with a range of grade requirements, you will get realistic offers.
If you do better than expected in August 2025, then you could reapply to other Unis the following year with achieved grades.
Look at these ABB courses - and don't make knee-jerk assumptions about the Unis
Undergraduate Courses, Degrees : Study : University of Sussex
Undergraduate courses | School of Computing and Mathematical Sciences | University of Leicester
Computer Science undergraduate courses - Swansea University
All Degree, Foundation & Short Courses City, University of London
Course Search | University of East Anglia (uea.ac.uk)


I’m trying to be open abt picking unis (thank u for giving me some more option too)

Reply 9

Original post by artful_lounger
I think the bigger issue here is that you note your worst subject is maths but are still focused on doing CS at degree level.
I think maybe you need to reflect on whether you realistically will succeed on such a course even if you were admitted.
Note also research has found that employment outcomes for students on STEM and non-STEM degrees in the UK do not show differences in the long run and graduates from both sides had equivalent salaries and job roles within 10 years of graduation: https://figshare.le.ac.uk/articles/report/The_employment_trajectories_of_Science_Technology_Engineering_and_Mathematics_graduates/10234421
Also CS in the UK had such poor graduate prospects the government had to commission two inquiries into the matter about 8-10 years ago.
So if you're trying to force yourself down the CS path in spite of not being good at the relevant subjects because you think it will have better career outcomes - it won't, so you should focus on identifying a degree that plays to your strengths.


My subjects are definitely unconventional (I previously wanted to do smth to do with chemistry but I now I’m leaning more towards comp sci bc I find it interesting). I’m currently working on my maths and have noticed improvements in tests at school. I still want a tech-related degree in uni so is that still a realistic idea?

Reply 10

There’s plenty of good CS courses with a year in industry/placement available for ABC-ABB without bothering with the over-subscribed and over theoretical RG courses.


I’ve been doing quite a bit of research but I’ll keep digging to see more courses (thank u thoH

Reply 11

Original post by jessster555
I’m in yr 12 rn and I’m probably going to get predicted ABC/ABB (I’m most worried as my worst subject was maths which is a key skill in computer science). My parents are adamant on me taking a gap yr, as they think I’ll just be lazy, so my only choices r settle for a ok uni or go into clearing. What unis would take my grades/what unis that are like russel group standard/good for comp sci go into clearing typically?


Check computer scone ranking for uk and any top 25 unis r very good. I’m yr 13 applied to royal Holloway which is 25th and is better then queen Mary which is a Russel group. Also if requirements are too high apply for foundation year and if u get better than expected try clearing

Reply 12

Original post by jessster555
I’ve been doing quite a bit of research but I’ll keep digging to see more courses (thank u thoH

It might be worth looking into more specific courses. CS is a very broad subject.

Reply 13

Original post by jessster555
I’m trying to be open abt picking unis (thank u for giving me some more option too)

This is really important. The year in industry is one of the key parts to a CS degree, and how it improves your CV. Research Unis like the Russell group really mainly benefit those wanting to do theoretical research. CS is really quite a practical workbased subject and so RG is less relevent than industrial links.
Also think about degree apprenticeships, which would put you ahead of the game compared to your peers as you would already be in employment.
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Original post by jessster555
My subjects are definitely unconventional (I previously wanted to do smth to do with chemistry but I now I’m leaning more towards comp sci bc I find it interesting). I’m currently working on my maths and have noticed improvements in tests at school. I still want a tech-related degree in uni so is that still a realistic idea?

My point is not about whether you subjects are conventional or not, it's that you say you specifically struggle with maths but for some reason decided you want to pursue a maths heavy degree.

Why do you consider CS to be interesting? Why do you want to do a "tech-related degree" as you say?

I'd also note that a CS degree is not a degree in programming - in fact often programming is a much smaller part of the degree.

Reply 15

Original post by artful_lounger
My point is not about whether you subjects are conventional or not, it's that you say you specifically struggle with maths but for some reason decided you want to pursue a maths heavy degree.
Why do you consider CS to be interesting? Why do you want to do a "tech-related degree" as you say?
I'd also note that a CS degree is not a degree in programming - in fact often programming is a much smaller part of the degree.


The computer science is mainly on my parents part (that’s the main tech degree that they think is good and important). As for myself, I’d like to pursue a tech related degree due to my cousin (I really look up to him and he’s a software developer). Sometimes he’d show me different programmes and projects he was working on in uni. Ik I can improve in maths and am determined to do whatever it takes (I don’t want to be lazy and give up)

Reply 16

Original post by totallyfine
This is really important. The year in industry is one of the key parts to a CS degree, and how it improves your CV. Research Unis like the Russell group really mainly benefit those wanting to do theoretical research. CS is really quite a practical workbased subject and so RG is less relevent than industrial links.
Also think about degree apprenticeships, which would put you ahead of the game compared to your peers as you would already be in employment.


Dependent on the career I wish to take, is computer science not as necessary for certain tech-related careers in your opinion? (I’ve been researching mechanical and electrical engineering and that also seems really cool)
Original post by jessster555
The computer science is mainly on my parents part (that’s the main tech degree that they think is good and important). As for myself, I’d like to pursue a tech related degree due to my cousin (I really look up to him and he’s a software developer). Sometimes he’d show me different programmes and projects he was working on in uni. Ik I can improve in maths and am determined to do whatever it takes (I don’t want to be lazy and give up)

These don't seem to be great reasons to pursue the degree. You should absolutely not be pursuing a degree based on what your parents want. Your comments about your cousin's work seems kind of relatively superficial - as I said a CS degree is much more than just programming. Also as I noted, CS does not mean you're going to get a great job on graduation and you would have a similar outcome for your career doing any other degree at a similar university.

You would ultimately have a worse outcome if you force yourself into a CS degree which you are under-prepared for and struggle with core skills for and aren't actually motivated to do out of your own personal interests, and would quite likely get a poorer result and a 2:2 in a CS degree is considerably less employable than a 2:1 in anything else.

Based on what you've said I don't think you should pursue CS. It's not about being "lazy" or "giving up" it's about being pragmatic and recognising what your strengths and weaknesses are and playing to your strengths and mitigating your weaknesses. You can't just "brute force" your way through a degree by "working hard" if you aren't good at the material, don't enjoy it, and don't have a deep interest and engagement in the breadth of what you would be studying.

Reply 18

It doesn't sound like you have fully resolved what it is you want to do. Absolutely don't do a degree because your parents want you to. This needs to be something you want.
Defintely keep researching mechanical and electrical Eng. Go to a few open days.

Reply 19

Original post by artful_lounger
These don't seem to be great reasons to pursue the degree. You should absolutely not be pursuing a degree based on what your parents want. Your comments about your cousin's work seems kind of relatively superficial - as I said a CS degree is much more than just programming. Also as I noted, CS does not mean you're going to get a great job on graduation and you would have a similar outcome for your career doing any other degree at a similar university.
You would ultimately have a worse outcome if you force yourself into a CS degree which you are under-prepared for and struggle with core skills for and aren't actually motivated to do out of your own personal interests, and would quite likely get a poorer result and a 2:2 in a CS degree is considerably less employable than a 2:1 in anything else.
Based on what you've said I don't think you should pursue CS. It's not about being "lazy" or "giving up" it's about being pragmatic and recognising what your strengths and weaknesses are and playing to your strengths and mitigating your weaknesses. You can't just "brute force" your way through a degree by "working hard" if you aren't good at the material, don't enjoy it, and don't have a deep interest and engagement in the breadth of what you would be studying.


Tbh I think ur right. I really enjoy the tech/programming side of things but I’ve been having doubts abt whether I acc want to do comp sci or whether it’s what my parents want. I feel like I’m running out of time bc my school requires me to write a personal statement tailored to what I want to do and I’m not even 100% sure. Given my circumstances, do u have any other advice so I have a more solid foundation as to what I can pursue?

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