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BSc Unacceptable for MA Playwrighting

I discussed entry to the University of Glasgow MA in Playwrighting and Dramaturgy with three different course leaders over a number of years (it took me a while to save the money for the course). All of them seemed to welcome my application. While my undergraduate degree is in a science I have considerable theatre experience, work with a classical theatre company, have directed and acted on the London stage and have had a play produced three times. When I formally applied to the course I was immediately rejected for having the ‘wrong’ type of undergraduate degree. The entry requirements however did not specify a BA. Is this good sense, that a science undergraduate degree would leave me hopeless and helpless to deal with the course, or is it some kind of prejudice? It seems my other accomplishments were not taken into account, and the rejection had an automated feel about it.
Original post by Francis9000
I discussed entry to the University of Glasgow MA in Playwrighting and Dramaturgy with three different course leaders over a number of years (it took me a while to save the money for the course). All of them seemed to welcome my application. While my undergraduate degree is in a science I have considerable theatre experience, work with a classical theatre company, have directed and acted on the London stage and have had a play produced three times. When I formally applied to the course I was immediately rejected for having the ‘wrong’ type of undergraduate degree. The entry requirements however did not specify a BA. Is this good sense, that a science undergraduate degree would leave me hopeless and helpless to deal with the course, or is it some kind of prejudice? It seems my other accomplishments were not taken into account, and the rejection had an automated feel about it.

According to their web page for Playwriting & Dramaturgy MLitt, here:

"Entry requirements for postgraduate taught programmes are a 2.1 Honours degree or equivalent qualification (for example, GPA 3.0 or above) in a relevant subject unless otherwise specified." (my emphasis)

Is your undergraduate degree in a relevant subject? If not, then can you direct me to where the "unless otherwise specified" might apply to this particular postgraduate degree? There doesn't appear be any exception listed on that web page.

So this doesn't appear to be a prejudice against a BSc particularly, it's just a failure to meet the "in a relevant subject" part of the entry requirements.

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Original post by Francis9000
I discussed entry to the University of Glasgow MA in Playwrighting and Dramaturgy with three different course leaders over a number of years (it took me a while to save the money for the course). All of them seemed to welcome my application. While my undergraduate degree is in a science I have considerable theatre experience, work with a classical theatre company, have directed and acted on the London stage and have had a play produced three times. When I formally applied to the course I was immediately rejected for having the ‘wrong’ type of undergraduate degree. The entry requirements however did not specify a BA. Is this good sense, that a science undergraduate degree would leave me hopeless and helpless to deal with the course, or is it some kind of prejudice? It seems my other accomplishments were not taken into account, and the rejection had an automated feel about it.

What evidence do you have of the course leaders encouraging you, particularly the current one?

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Original post by ageshallnot
What evidence do you have of the course leaders encouraging you, particularly the current one?

A one hour informal interview in which she said she would be happy to have me in the course. When I was rejected she was surprised and directed me to apply to the MA in Performace which does not have the undergraduate subject restriction.

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Original post by Francis9000
A one hour informal interview.

If the course leader saw your application then presumably you didn't impress enough at the informal meeting. However, it's possible that you were rejected by someone else over the degree subject issue. Perhaps follow up with the course leader saying how disappointed you were?
Original post by Francis9000
A one hour informal interview in which she said she would be happy to have me in the course. When I was rejected she was surprised and directed me to apply to the MA in Performace which does not have the undergraduate subject restriction.

If the course leader was surprised that you were rejected, then clearly she wasn't the person doing the rejecting. So it's more likely that (a) someone in the admissions office rejected it due to the "in a relevant subject" issue, and that (b) the course leader doesn't know the criteria the admissions office are using to rejected candidates.

The fact that she's suggested that you apply for a different course instead implies that she has no interest is trying to "work around" the general postgraduate admission criteria, which is a little disappointing given that she said said she "would be happy to have me in the course".

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Original post by DataVenia
If the course leader was surprised that you were rejected, then clearly she wasn't the person doing the rejecting. So it's more likely that (a) someone in the admissions office rejected it due to the "in a relevant subject" issue, and that (b) the course leader doesn't know the criteria the admissions office are using to rejected candidates.
The fact that she's suggested that you apply for a different course instead implies that she has no interest is trying to "work around" the general postgraduate admission criteria, which is a little disappointing given that she said said she "would be happy to have me in the course".

The application was submitted on Sunday night and the rejection came before 10 the next day so I presume an automated system. I did not realise there would be this complete inflexibility. Someone mentioned that overseas applicants pay £27,000 while home students pay £11,000 and that informal rationing of places for home students is a current practice in academia, overseas Masters students being a prime source of income. I’m not going to challenge the system it is what it is and I’ll just do what I can with my own resources.

Thanks for the replies.

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