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DWP Work coach. Part time

I know it depends on business needs but does anyone know the chances of DWP accepting 2/3 full days a week ? I’ve contacted chat etc but they can’t provide any information. My concern is they will only allow reduced hours over a 5 day week

Reply 1

I wasn't permitted to do 30 hours over 4 days and was told before I started that I had to do it over 5.

When i joined, i then found most of the part time workers had full days off...

I don't know if it was just my job centre or region but the manager was obsessed with having Work Coaches in the office finishing at 5pm, especially on Mondays and Fridays.

I was obliged to start at 11am up to 3 times per week so the office would hit its 5pm targets.

We also had to book our annual leave a year in advance. Building up flexi time wss discouraged.

We had to start 15 mins early to attend 'buzz meetings' where managers told us about frequent changes in policy and priorities.

I was bombarded with comms from managers and claimants. Had back to back appointments with very little admin time in a department full of complex info and clunky processes.

I was given a similar case load to my full time colleagues despite working fewer hours.

My manager refused to take into account my previously served CS probation that should reduce my WC probation period, would not engage in any discussion about it. The longest chat I had with my manager was a lengthy grilling about a 1 day sick leave.

Unless i wanted to skimp and merely 'tick and turn' the claimants (do the bare minimum), I needed to stay at least an extra hour a day.

Basically I was working full time for part time wages and unable to take any tea breaks or my full lunch period.

I left. I will never work in any CS role designed that way.

Reply 2

Original post by Compyjo
I wasn't permitted to do 30 hours over 4 days and was told before I started that I had to do it over 5.
When i joined, i then found most of the part time workers had full days off...
I don't know if it was just my job centre or region but the manager was obsessed with having Work Coaches in the office finishing at 5pm, especially on Mondays and Fridays.
I was obliged to start at 11am up to 3 times per week so the office would hit its 5pm targets.
We also had to book our annual leave a year in advance. Building up flexi time wss discouraged.
We had to start 15 mins early to attend 'buzz meetings' where managers told us about frequent changes in policy and priorities.
I was bombarded with comms from managers and claimants. Had back to back appointments with very little admin time in a department full of complex info and clunky processes.
I was given a similar case load to my full time colleagues despite working fewer hours.
My manager refused to take into account my previously served CS probation that should reduce my WC probation period, would not engage in any discussion about it. The longest chat I had with my manager was a lengthy grilling about a 1 day sick leave.
Unless i wanted to skimp and merely 'tick and turn' the claimants (do the bare minimum), I needed to stay at least an extra hour a day.
Basically I was working full time for part time wages and unable to take any tea breaks or my full lunch period.
I left. I will never work in any CS role designed that way.

That sounds like a raw deal. Part time over 5 days has no value for me. So if that’s all they offer me I will withdraw. Thanks for the detailed response

Reply 3

I’ve read a lot of negative feedback for this role. I’m in my 60s and beginning to think I may have made a catastrophic mistake accepting this role !! Only one way to find out. 🤞

Reply 4

Original post by Dwp62
I’ve read a lot of negative feedback for this role. I’m in my 60s and beginning to think I may have made a catastrophic mistake accepting this role !! Only one way to find out. 🤞

I think the best approach is to pace yourself in the role and be conscientious without feeling you have to fix your caseload.

It's about not becoming a tick and turn merchant, doing the minimum to get claimants out the door while not burning yourself out.

I felt impotent. It's a shock to come across people in their 50s who have never worked, people who have lived in the UK for 30 years who cannot speak English, people with the same non chronic health conditions as their WC who are adamant that they are too ill to work, lots of people who can't read or write etc.

Reply 5

Original post by Dwp62
That sounds like a raw deal. Part time over 5 days has no value for me. So if that’s all they offer me I will withdraw. Thanks for the detailed response

This was something that my line manager contacted me about before I started to tell me it had to be over 5 days.

Upon starting, I could see nearly all existing part time staff had a full day off so I expect I was an 'experiment'.

The real fun started when I was expected to start 2 or 3 times a week at 11 or 11.30 so the office could meet its target of maximising Work Coach finishing at 5pm.

There was absolutely no operational justification for this - it doesn't affect the number of claimant appointments I could have in my diary.

Instead it ruined my ability to study a course and do my voluntary work shifts with a local charity.

Then they were reintroducing occasional late night finishes and Saturday working. This is all contractually legitimate.

However, compared to people working in other DWP roles and other CS departments, it was pants, particularly as Job Centre roles start at 9am and are always in the office whereas other roles can start at 7.30 and be hybrid.

Reply 6

Original post by Compyjo
This was something that my line manager contacted me about before I started to tell me it had to be over 5 days.
Upon starting, I could see nearly all existing part time staff had a full day off so I expect I was an 'experiment'.
The real fun started when I was expected to start 2 or 3 times a week at 11 or 11.30 so the office could meet its target of maximising Work Coach finishing at 5pm.
There was absolutely no operational justification for this - it doesn't affect the number of claimant appointments I could have in my diary.
Instead it ruined my ability to study a course and do my voluntary work shifts with a local charity.
Then they were reintroducing occasional late night finishes and Saturday working. This is all contractually legitimate.
However, compared to people working in other DWP roles and other CS departments, it was pants, particularly as Job Centre roles start at 9am and are always in the office whereas other roles can start at 7.30 and be hybrid.
That sounds very unfair to me. I hope everything is better for you now.

Reply 7

Did you survive?
If I am allowed part-time hours I will 100% jump on this.

Reply 8

My advice for part time is make sure you agree your part time hours after you’ve been given a start date. You will be in a much weaker position if you wait until you’ve actually started.

Reply 9

Definitely mention it during the call you get with your new Line Manager, specify what day you want and the hours you want to work each day and ask them to confirm it in an email to you. What I will say though is that if your in a JCP office that is extremely busy and in a highly populated area, your chances may be slightly lower than someone in a more quiet remote location.

Reply 10

Original post by AquaBlue85
Definitely mention it during the call you get with your new Line Manager, specify what day you want and the hours you want to work each day and ask them to confirm it in an email to you. What I will say though is that if your in a JCP office that is extremely busy and in a highly populated area, your chances may be slightly lower than someone in a more quiet remote location.

Thanks, seems there are 2 in my city, not sure the population split though. Wonder how to find out, heh I can ask my work coach!
(edited 10 months ago)

Reply 11

Original post by Dwp62
My advice for part time is make sure you agree your part time hours after you’ve been given a start date. You will be in a much weaker position if you wait until you’ve actually started.

Thanks, did you start it btw or not?

I have to figure out if I consider one of the locations whether Im taken off the contact list for the others, in case a better location comes up.

Reply 12

I have to wait up top 12 weeks befoire I can even find out whether they allow part time hours? I jsut accepted the provisional.

Reply 13

Original post by moomin valley
I have to wait up top 12 weeks befoire I can even find out whether they allow part time hours? I jsut accepted the provisional.

The role is advertised as full or part time ?

Reply 14

Original post by Dwp62
The role is advertised as full or part time ?

Full time. I got into contact with them earlier and they said part-time is okay. However somebody else I spoke to backtracked and said becaue the training is full time.. I should be able to continue full time. The training will be hell, I can only cope with it because I know it won't last after 8 weeks.

As someone else said I will phone up again and ask for an email confirmation lest they try and screw me after the training!

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