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legal advice for tfl

I got a letter from TFL and I'm slightly confused with what they're asking me, so if anyone can offer some help, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

Reply 1

What does the letter say? Have you been caught evading a fare? Did you fail to pay the Congestion Charge or ULEZ charge?

Reply 2

It was for fare evasion and it's basically saying that I could be prosecuted and it's asking for my details at the back and to either 1. deny allegations, 2. plead guilty and give reasons as to why i shouldn't be prosecuted or 3. produce a photocard for ticket irregularity.


I'd plead guilty and I've read a lot about the situation online but I have no idea what to write at the back and I'd like some personal advice about it.

Reply 3

My advice is pay your fare in future.

Reply 4

Original post by 1ta_dx
I got a letter from TFL and I'm slightly confused with what they're asking me, so if anyone can offer some help, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks

Did you get this sorted ?

Reply 5

Original post by censorshipoftsr
Did you get this sorted ?

Yeah, I wrote back to them stating what happened and they gave me a warning and how if smth like this happens again in the next 12 months, im definitely screwed.
But other than that, no charges were pressed.

I do wish I was given proper guidance though, so ig if anyone gets stuck in smth like this, I can help out.

Reply 6

Original post by 1ta_dx
Yeah, I wrote back to them stating what happened and they gave me a warning and how if smth like this happens again in the next 12 months, im definitely screwed.
But other than that, no charges were pressed.
I do wish I was given proper guidance though, so ig if anyone gets stuck in smth like this, I can help out.

Ah ok glad u got it sorted anyway. Sometimes I wonder if TFL flout the laws themselves, like for example the Post Office did with all the sub postmasters.

Reply 7

Original post by censorshipoftsr
Ah ok glad u got it sorted anyway. Sometimes I wonder if TFL flout the laws themselves, like for example the Post Office did with all the sub postmasters.

The only person who flouted the law here was the OP. He or she tried to avoid paying a fare. Fare dodging increases the fares paid by honest people.
(edited 8 months ago)

Reply 8

Original post by Stiffy Byng
The only person who flouted the law here was the OP. He tried to avoid paying a fare. Fare dodging increases the fares paid by honest people.

YOU do not KNOW that personally ,or were you there at time and knew they didnt have ticket ?. If not then you are guessing.
Original post by censorshipoftsr
YOU do not KNOW that personally ,or were you there at time and knew they didnt have ticket ?. If not then you are guessing.


Given they received a letter about fare evasion, pled guilty and provided no further info here about how to dispute it due to a genuine error, it's a pretty reasonable guess.

Reply 10

Original post by censorshipoftsr
YOU do not KNOW that personally ,or were you there at time and knew they didnt have ticket ?. If not then you are guessing.

The OP pleaded guilty to fare evasion. See above.

Reply 11

Original post by 1ta_dx
Yeah, I wrote back to them stating what happened and they gave me a warning and how if smth like this happens again in the next 12 months, im definitely screwed.
But other than that, no charges were pressed.
I do wish I was given proper guidance though, so ig if anyone gets stuck in smth like this, I can help out.

Plesae help me. I am in the same situation for using a freedom pass. What did your reply to TFL look like?

Reply 12

Original post by Kyalh03
Plesae help me. I am in the same situation for using a freedom pass. What did your reply to TFL look like?

sent you a pm

Reply 13

Original post by 1ta_dx
It was for fare evasion and it's basically saying that I could be prosecuted and it's asking for my details at the back and to either 1. deny allegations, 2. plead guilty and give reasons as to why i shouldn't be prosecuted or 3. produce a photocard for ticket irregularity.
I'd plead guilty and I've read a lot about the situation online but I have no idea what to write at the back and I'd like some personal advice about it.

I was caught using a zip card (sibling) on a single journey between stations. They took the zip card and charged me a penalty fare on the spot which I paid on the spot. They then said I'd receive a letter saying I'd paid the fare but I've had no such letter, and I don't know if they're going to do anything else since they've taken the card away or if I can order a new one for my brother because he uses it.

Reply 14

Original post by joonigigi
I was caught using a zip card (sibling) on a single journey between stations. They took the zip card and charged me a penalty fare on the spot which I paid on the spot. They then said I'd receive a letter saying I'd paid the fare but I've had no such letter, and I don't know if they're going to do anything else since they've taken the card away or if I can order a new one for my brother because he uses it.

The penalty fare on the spot is good in the sense that you get it sorted then and there. It took me a good month to sort this because of the back and forth letters, and my anxiety was up there regarding this (also bc it would've had such big effects on me) but after all of it, I just got a warning.

The letter might come soon, idk how long it's been for you, but it could just be delayed as they process it. Once you get that letter, I'd say try and order a new zip for your brother, but i'm not sure if he'll be able to get one. I think he would and I think you should try but I'm not 100% sure.

Reply 15

Original post by 1ta_dx
The penalty fare on the spot is good in the sense that you get it sorted then and there. It took me a good month to sort this because of the back and forth letters, and my anxiety was up there regarding this (also bc it would've had such big effects on me) but after all of it, I just got a warning.
The letter might come soon, idk how long it's been for you, but it could just be delayed as they process it. Once you get that letter, I'd say try and order a new zip for your brother, but i'm not sure if he'll be able to get one. I think he would and I think you should try but I'm not 100% sure.

I just hope it's sorted on the penalty fare. It would screw up my career if they decided to do anything. But people have been telling me it's alright because they decided to charge me on the spot and it should be settled as that. They said I can order him a new card, but I don't know if they'd block it for a period of time. They didn't say anything about that to me. It was last week.

Reply 16

Original post by joonigigi
I just hope it's sorted on the penalty fare. It would screw up my career if they decided to do anything. But people have been telling me it's alright because they decided to charge me on the spot and it should be settled as that. They said I can order him a new card, but I don't know if they'd block it for a period of time. They didn't say anything about that to me. It was last week.

Why did you try to cheat on a fare if being caught could jeopardise your career? Have you learned a life lesson?

Reply 17

Original post by joonigigi
I just hope it's sorted on the penalty fare. It would screw up my career if they decided to do anything. But people have been telling me it's alright because they decided to charge me on the spot and it should be settled as that. They said I can order him a new card, but I don't know if they'd block it for a period of time. They didn't say anything about that to me. It was last week.
Don't worry, I think you're good. Fines are the alternative to prosecution so I think you're all good in that sense.
Just watch for the letter. If it doesn't ever come, then idk what that means, but I'd also take it as a good sign. Lmk what happens tho, I'm curious.

Reply 18

Original post by 1ta_dx
Yeah, I wrote back to them stating what happened and they gave me a warning and how if smth like this happens again in the next 12 months, im definitely screwed.
But other than that, no charges were pressed.
I do wish I was given proper guidance though, so ig if anyone gets stuck in smth like this, I can help out.

Hi please I need help, got caught using a freedom pass. Please help

Reply 19

Original post by Yemzy
Hi please I need help, got caught using a freedom pass. Please help

pm me

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