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Is Trump a bad person / why do people like him?

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Original post by McGinger
Racist, misogynist, manipulative, narcissistic, liar, bigoted, bully, sexually aggressive - and that is just for starters.

All those are flippant claims that don't hold water imho. Many people who actually know Trump and not what has been fed by the media have repeatedly confirmed that he is not all those things.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
I don't think that the attempt was staged.

I agree. Social media is awash with conspiracy theories.
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Original post by Wired_1800
All those are flippant claims that don't hold water imho. Many people who actually know Trump and not what has been fed by the media have repeatedly confirmed that he is not all those things.

Are you on intimate friendship terms with Trump then?
Original post by McGinger
Racist, misogynist, manipulative, narcissistic, liar, bigoted, bully, sexually aggressive - and that is just for starters.


A good start but you missed off + ableist, weird sexual fascination with his own daughter, admiration of strong arm dictators and increasingly likely to be a paedophile.
But otherwise, yes, great guy, 5*’s, no notes.
Original post by McGinger
Are you on intimate friendship terms with Trump then?

I am not but I have American friends from uni who have close family contact with the Trumps and they all said the same thing that he is far from that characterisation.
Don't feed the troll.
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Original post by Wired_1800
I am not but I have American friends from uni who have close family contact with the Trumps and they all said the same thing that he is far from that characterisation.

You really are very naïve.
Original post by McGinger
You really are very naïve.

If you say so.
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Original post by Wired_1800
I am not but I have American friends from uni who have close family contact with the Trumps and they all said the same thing that he is far from that characterisation.

What? That he isn't a narcissist? Since did Trump every do or say anything that wasn't in his own interest? Here we have Keir Starma talking about returning our government to that of service. Trump is diametrically opposite to that. His presidency is purely about himself, only himself and nothing else. The clever part of his character is he is very good at convincing is supporters to think he actually cares about them when to the outside it is obvious he cares not a job about anyone but himself.

There is also plenty of recorded evidence pointing to his misogynistic outlook, his anti-Muslim dictates also point to the fact that he doesn't see all people as equal.
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Original post by hotpud
What? That he isn't a narcissist? Since did Trump every do or say anything that wasn't in his own interest? Here we have Keir Starma talking about returning our government to that of service. Trump is diametrically opposite to that. His presidency is purely about himself, only himself and nothing else. The clever part of his character is he is very good at convincing is supporters to think he actually cares about them when to the outside it is obvious he cares not a job about anyone but himself.
There is also plenty of recorded evidence pointing to his misogynistic outlook, his anti-Muslim dictates also point to the fact that he doesn't see all people as equal.

Self-interest does not often equate to narcissism. For example, the current lawsuits and court challenges that have plagued President Trump would have seen him withdraw from the campaign as the alleged claim is that those lawsuits are being used to stop him from running again.

What someone says does not often mean that’s what they believe in. I wont advise anyone to believe what comes out of PM Starmer’s mouth.

It is naive to think that most people see all people as equal. It is the BS lie that is often painted. There is a difference between anti-Islam and anti-Muslim. Many people, even here in Britain, are anti-Islam due to their view that Islam is not really a tolerant religion. I disagree with their position but it is their opinion.

The misogyny claim is also not true. You are probably talking about the “grab her by the p****” which was a foolish comment but does not point to hatred or prejudice of women in general.
Original post by hotpud
What? That he isn't a narcissist? Since did Trump every do or say anything that wasn't in his own interest? Here we have Keir Starma talking about returning our government to that of service. Trump is diametrically opposite to that. His presidency is purely about himself, only himself and nothing else. The clever part of his character is he is very good at convincing is supporters to think he actually cares about them when to the outside it is obvious he cares not a job about anyone but himself.
There is also plenty of recorded evidence pointing to his misogynistic outlook, his anti-Muslim dictates also point to the fact that he doesn't see all people as equal.

It’s okay, Wired will ask for examples and you’ll provide the clearest ones imaginable which they will ignore. C’est la vie.
Original post by Admit-One
It’s okay, Wired will ask for examples and you’ll provide the clearest ones imaginable which they will ignore. C’est la vie.

Ok
Original post by StriderHort
One of them is a sex offender, it shouldn't even be close imo

I’m not trying to put Trump and Biden on the same level. Im saying that I don’t like Biden either (because some people like to jump and say “well what about Biden?”) but I’ll take him over Trump.
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Original post by Wired_1800
How is President Trump a bad person? Can you please clearly explain how you think he is one?

What he said VVV
Original post by McGinger
Racist, misogynist, manipulative, narcissistic, liar, bigoted, bully, sexually aggressive - and that is just for starters.
Original post by Talkative Toad
What he said VVV

That’s fair
Original post by StriderHort
One of them is a sex offender, it shouldn't even be close imo
Can you provide proof of this claim? Has Trump ever been convicted of a crime of that nature in criminal law?
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Original post by Amydesigns1104
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows him personally but from what I sense from the media he says some shocking things.
Now I’m not an ultra feminist but the stuff he’s said ie having sex with his daughter (if they weren’t realted) and ‘grabbing her by the p***y is JUST enough for me to not want someone like that running my country.
I know politics is about political views but how come so many are Americans are ok with that?
Politics isn’t my forte but all I know is that I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone like that, let alone elect them to be president
As for Biden, I’m not sure if he’s said anything so shocking & if he has then the same view applies. I know people think he’s a bit ‘wet’ but surely that’s better than trump?

Yes 100% Agree. Trump is off his head, a Narcissist and totally incompetent. He is also a Convicted RAPIST and FRAUDSTER. It shows how totally F****** up the US is that they are even allowing him to run. US now is worse than a
third world Country. At least BIDEN is "normal" , or as normal as can get in Politics. Just a few cm's and there would be
no Trump, drat !
Original post by censorshipoftsr
Yes 100% Agree. Trump is off his head, a Narcissist and totally incompetent. He is also a Convicted RAPIST and FRAUDSTER. It shows how totally F****** up the US is that they are even allowing him to run. US now is worse than a
third world Country. At least BIDEN is "normal" , or as normal as can get in Politics. Just a few cm's and there would be
no Trump, drat !
Can you provide evidence of Trump being convicted of these crimes in criminal law please?

The economy is much worse under Biden than it was under Trump.
Original post by Driving_Mad
Can you provide evidence of Trump being convicted of these crimes in criminal law please?
The economy is much worse under Biden than it was under Trump.

That Trump has multiple felony convictions for falsifying business records, a form of fraud, and has been found liable of the sexual assault of E Jean Carroll is a matter of public record.

You were previously challenged in this thread to support your insinuations of Biden's supposed close ties to Epstein,. You fail to do so. Are we to conclude that was you conceding your claims were spurious?
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Original post by Gazpacho.
That Trump has multiple felony convictions for falsifying business records, a form of fraud, and has been found liable of the sexual assault of E Jean Carroll is a matter of public record.
You were previously challenged in this thread to support your insinuations of Biden's supposed close ties to Epstein,. You fail to do so. Are we to conclude that was you conceding your claims were spurious?
E Jean Carroll case was never a criminal case, so your point no longer stands.

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