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Is Trump a bad person / why do people like him?

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Reply 60

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by Jebedee
Anyone who is promoting the Jean E Carroll hoax has either not seen her CNN interview, or is generally just being fundamentally dishonest.

It is strange that Trump was able to afford competent lawyers to show in court that it was a hoax.

Reply 61

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by Amydesigns1104
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows him personally but from what I sense from the media he says some shocking things.
Now I’m not an ultra feminist but the stuff he’s said ie having sex with his daughter (if they weren’t realted) and ‘grabbing her by the p***y is JUST enough for me to not want someone like that running my country.
I know politics is about political views but how come so many are Americans are ok with that?
Politics isn’t my forte but all I know is that I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone like that, let alone elect them to be president
As for Biden, I’m not sure if he’s said anything so shocking & if he has then the same view applies. I know people think he’s a bit ‘wet’ but surely that’s better than trump?

Trump can't be a bad person if we don't know him personally. He's a politician and that alone gives people an opinion of him, but his public image is very divisive, though that doesn't pertain to our knowledge of him, that's a perception we get through a TV screen and from what we hear in the media.
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by Gazpacho.
It is strange that Trump was able to afford competent lawyers to show in court that it was a hoax.


Well to be fair, he is notorious for not paying them.

Reply 63

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by Wired_1800
The anti-Trump brigade have a personal hatred of Trump that they are willing to throw anything at him.
For example, some are calling the assassination attempt staged with some people saying that they would only believe it if Trump had been terminated. Imagine the level of evil within such people.

I'm imagining it, sounds like they have very little evil, frankly.

Reply 64

He was still found liable in a civil court.

That is far more damming that you unsupported insinuations about Biden.

Reply 65

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by Wired_1800
Self-interest does not often equate to narcissism. For example, the current lawsuits and court challenges that have plagued President Trump would have seen him withdraw from the campaign as the alleged claim is that those lawsuits are being used to stop him from running again.
What someone says does not often mean that’s what they believe in. I wont advise anyone to believe what comes out of PM Starmer’s mouth.
It is naive to think that most people see all people as equal. It is the BS lie that is often painted. There is a difference between anti-Islam and anti-Muslim. Many people, even here in Britain, are anti-Islam due to their view that Islam is not really a tolerant religion. I disagree with their position but it is their opinion.
The misogyny claim is also not true. You are probably talking about the “grab her by the p****” which was a foolish comment but does not point to hatred or prejudice of women in general.

Trump is the ultimate narcist. He has no empathy for anyone but himself. He cares for no one but himself - please give an example of where he did something for the good of someone else - anything. He is the number 1 cyber bully. He also revels in the misery of others. The sad fact of Trump is that he is very good at winning over a certain type of person. I get the feeling you have fallen for him. Just think what good he could do in the world with all that power. But instead, it is self-serving. If Trump wins the next election, I predict there will be riots or disorder that amount to nothing short of civil war. He is not a force for good but a force for evil, just like Putin, Kim Jong Un and other brutalist dictators before him.

Hi divides. He does not unite and he uses that division to boost his own standing / power. He is exceedingly dangerous.
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He's the most textbook narcissist I can imagine. It's amusingly transparent.

Reply 67

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by hotpud
Trump is the ultimate narcist. He has no empathy for anyone but himself. He cares for no one but himself - please give an example of where he did something for the good of someone else - anything. He is the number 1 cyber bully. He also revels in the misery of others. The sad fact of Trump is that he is very good at winning over a certain type of person. I get the feeling you have fallen for him. Just think what good he could do in the world with all that power. But instead, it is self-serving. If Trump wins the next election, I predict there will be riots or disorder that amount to nothing short of civil war. He is not a force for good but a force for evil, just like Putin, Kim Jong Un and other brutalist dictators before him.
Hi divides. He does not unite and he uses that division to boost his own standing / power. He is exceedingly dangerous.

The very fact that Trump remains in the race after an onslaught of legal challenges both legit and BS shows that he is doing it for his country and not himself.

I completely disagree that there will be riots the amount of nothing short of civil war.

Reply 68

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by anarchism101
I'm imagining it, sounds like they have very little evil, frankly.

Some people are full of hatred and pure evil. To think that one would want someone to be killed before believing is beyond all that is positive in this world imho.

Reply 69

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by McGinger
Then stop quoting this nonsense.

What nonsense? It is true. Please go to Twitter and see the hatred. I am really glad that our politics in Britain has not reached the depths of that.

Reply 70

I would rather a frail but well meaning old man running the country than a narcissistic, self serving, sexist ***hole running the country. Trump has never talked properly and cannot communicate to an audience without a teleprompter.

Some people either gloss over or conviniently forget that Trump was instrumental in causing the January 6th riots. He was part of a plot to overturn the result of the election and keep himself in power. The man is corrupt to the core and should not be anywhere near power.

The bootlickers have been out in full force recently.

Reply 71

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by Jebedee
Anyone who is promoting the Jean E Carroll hoax has either not seen her CNN interview, or is generally just being fundamentally dishonest.

I haven't seen it... but honest Q, if it hasn't convinced a court why will it convince me?

Reply 72

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by StriderHort
I haven't seen it... but honest Q, if it hasn't convinced a court why will it convince me?

There was a state supreme court in America who were convinced that they could remove Trump from a Republican state ballot, and courts in America who were convinced that Trump was not entitled to any immunity from criminal prosecutions. Guess what? They were wrong.

Lawfare is being used against Trump because the Democrats are terrified of actually having to beat him at the ballot box.

Reply 73

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by AF2Dr
There was a state supreme court in America who were convinced that they could remove Trump from a Republican state ballot, and courts in America who were convinced that Trump was not entitled to any immunity from criminal prosecutions. Guess what? They were wrong.
Lawfare is being used against Trump because the Democrats are terrified of actually having to beat him at the ballot box.

What do you think is more likely? That there's a grand conspiracy among Democrats and legislatures across multiple states to shut down Trump or that maybe, just maybe, Trump is a terrible person?

Reply 74

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by AF2Dr
There was a state supreme court in America who were convinced that they could remove Trump from a Republican state ballot, and courts in America who were convinced that Trump was not entitled to any immunity from criminal prosecutions. Guess what? They were wrong.
Lawfare is being used against Trump because the Democrats are terrified of actually having to beat him at the ballot box.

For one thing this 'lawfare' is something Trump is also very well known for surely? he's filing things almost non stop, many of which are thrown out of various courts for being preposterous and a lot of his lawyers seem to run into serious legal problems themselves.

Are you suggesting I should just ignore any courts, verdicts investigations etc because of the possibility they may be in some way politically influenced? I'm not about to pretend corruption doesn't exist or that everything is 1 sided, or that a somewhat controversial civil trial is the 'be and and end all' but I'm going to trust it over internet randos who are openly Trump apologists and maintain he can do no wrong? This surely can't be a shock.

Reply 75

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by Wired_1800
Some people are full of hatred and pure evil. To think that one would want someone to be killed before believing is beyond all that is positive in this world imho.

If you can't imagine any situation where someone might justifiably prefer someone else wasn't around any more (which doesn't mean they're actually going to do anything about it themselves!), then you have a very limited imagination. Do you think the Americans who celebrated when Osama Bin Laden was killed are "full of hatred and pure evil"?

Reply 76

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by Stiffy Byng
I assume that the assassination attempt was real. Whether real or staged (which I think unlikely), it may give Trump a small boost in the polls. I detest Trump, but don't wish him or anyone dead.
I think that Biden, for the good of the US and the World, should step down and let a younger candidate oppose Trump in the election.

From few hours ago, but PRSOM

I have no evidence it wasn't real, but the fact he/his team are known to lie, take desperate steps for power and have an obvious motive can't be ignored and questions will be asked. Ditto can't stand the guy, but don't want to see things go this way, if everyone I dislike got shot in the ear there would be a lot of people struggling to cross roads. Likewise I think Biden has had it, blood & sharks in the water etc. past a point you can't fight it.
A weak person.

Reply 78

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by AF2Dr
There was a state supreme court in America who were convinced that they could remove Trump from a Republican state ballot, and courts in America who were convinced that Trump was not entitled to any immunity from criminal prosecutions. Guess what? They were wrong.
Lawfare is being used against Trump because the Democrats are terrified of actually having to beat him at the ballot box.

They beat him at the ballot box four years ago, and his response was to attempt a coup. Kind of understandable that they'd want to try to prevent another one. In fact, it's remarkable how soft Dems have been on Trump and the GOP coup plotters more broadly over the past 4 years.

Reply 79

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by anarchism101
If you can't imagine any situation where someone might justifiably prefer someone else wasn't around any more (which doesn't mean they're actually going to do anything about it themselves!), then you have a very limited imagination. Do you think the Americans who celebrated when Osama Bin Laden was killed are "full of hatred and pure evil"?

First of all, you are not comparing the leader of one of the world’s most evil killing machines to the President of the United States.

Second, it is reckless and wicked to wish death on a political opponent because one does not agree with him.

Third, President Trump has not done anything so evil imho that one’s fair conclusion is for him to be terminated.

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