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My girlfriend is cheating, but I kind of like it?

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Reply 80

Original post by NeoIan
well hang on though isnt this her causing this bim ? shes basically having a bit of both and shrop lad is enjoying the idea of it. Theres no bad treatment of the females here ....


I just said this thread is funny, what you on about?

Reply 81

Original post by NeoIan
No need for that - we dont shut down people do we as thats why society is going bad right now - no ones allowed to say anything anymore. Shrop lad is our freind, he has some issues with his lady freind, and yes to some of us hes being a little less than the man we think he should be ..however - thats part of the fun in talking about it for him no ?


Perceptive - I suspect that the humiliation of posting about this is part of his kink. On that basis I will stop responding to this subject 😂
Original post by NeoIan
wow this gets deeper - and more interesting like a sit com... just please do something here and talk to her and find out whats gonna pan out ok? I cant bear the suspecnce to be honest.
Get a spy to find out if they are up to something...


We definitely do not watch the same sitcoms.

On a basic level there is nothing wrong with the OP being turned on by this or having these kinds of fetishes. These sorts of kinks are increasingly common and there are plenty of relationships where it works perfectly well. It's also perfectly fine for a man who is 'masculine' in day to day life to be more submissive sexually. It's common for one person to be more submissive or dominant than the other when it comes to sex, or indeed for one or both to be both submissive and dominant from time to time. It all comes down to what gives individuals and couples pleasure within a relationship. There are endless different ways to do it, and there's nothing wrong with any of it.

There is, however, a big problem here, and that is that in order for these sorts of things to work in practice, it requires very clear and careful communication. Most people don't get out of the fantasy phase with this sort of thing, and the OP hasn't yet either. Being submissive sexually doesn't mean you're submissive within the relationship as a whole, nor does it mean you're not equal within a relationship. Partners should absolutely be equal in any relationship. Being submissive or dominant doesn't affect that. Everything needs to be clear and consensual. That is not an easy thing to establish.

In the first instance the OP has to talk to his girlfriend about this. It simply cannot continue like this with him suspecting her of cheating and being turned on by it. It's not sustainable for any length of time. Whether she is cheating or not, he needs to establish the sort of relationship that he wants, and she needs to be on board with that. That doesn't mean immediately specifying everything to the smallest detail. It takes time to figure that out, and progress in that regard should be gradual with, as I say, very clear communication. But his girlfriend needs to at least be attracted to the idea of it. She may not be, in which case the relationship is certainly over if she is cheating on him. If she isn't it just becomes a fantasy again that she can play into or not, and if she doesn't want to go further with it then the OP has to decide if it's a deal breaker for him.

It really isn't that complicated. It requires the OP to think properly about what he wants, and it requires him to communicate with his girlfriend. In other words, it's basically like every other issue in a relationship.

Reply 83

Original post by ShropshireLad
When you say talk to her do you mean ask if she's cheating or tell her I fantasise about it?


The cheating part

Reply 84

Original post by Crazy Jamie
We definitely do not watch the same sitcoms.
On a basic level there is nothing wrong with the OP being turned on by this or having these kinds of fetishes. These sorts of kinks are increasingly common and there are plenty of relationships where it works perfectly well. It's also perfectly fine for a man who is 'masculine' in day to day life to be more submissive sexually. It's common for one person to be more submissive or dominant than the other when it comes to sex, or indeed for one or both to be both submissive and dominant from time to time. It all comes down to what gives individuals and couples pleasure within a relationship. There are endless different ways to do it, and there's nothing wrong with any of it.
There is, however, a big problem here, and that is that in order for these sorts of things to work in practice, it requires very clear and careful communication. Most people don't get out of the fantasy phase with this sort of thing, and the OP hasn't yet either. Being submissive sexually doesn't mean you're submissive within the relationship as a whole, nor does it mean you're not equal within a relationship. Partners should absolutely be equal in any relationship. Being submissive or dominant doesn't affect that. Everything needs to be clear and consensual. That is not an easy thing to establish.
In the first instance the OP has to talk to his girlfriend about this. It simply cannot continue like this with him suspecting her of cheating and being turned on by it. It's not sustainable for any length of time. Whether she is cheating or not, he needs to establish the sort of relationship that he wants, and she needs to be on board with that. That doesn't mean immediately specifying everything to the smallest detail. It takes time to figure that out, and progress in that regard should be gradual with, as I say, very clear communication. But his girlfriend needs to at least be attracted to the idea of it. She may not be, in which case the relationship is certainly over if she is cheating on him. If she isn't it just becomes a fantasy again that she can play into or not, and if she doesn't want to go further with it then the OP has to decide if it's a deal breaker for him.
It really isn't that complicated. It requires the OP to think properly about what he wants, and it requires him to communicate with his girlfriend. In other words, it's basically like every other issue in a relationship.

Fair comments Jamie, and i get your POV, i just dont think its healthy sorry, but maybe im more old school. And caring about Shrops I personally wouldnt chase this girl in this way... just my angle.

Reply 85

Ah well let it be then and keep us posted on the progress as it seems this is now the all of the town haha

Reply 86

Original post by tellizard
"On a basic level there is nothing wrong with the OP being turned on by this or having these kinds of fetishes. These sorts of kinks are increasingly common and there are plenty of relationships where it works perfectly well."
Nowadays people tend to be so open minded their ******* brains fall out with with regards to sexual stuff. what ever happened to going to church?

The OP is probably a vicar! 😆

Reply 87

Original post by ageshallnot
The OP is probably a vicar! 😆

lol omg :smile:))

Reply 88

Original post by NeoIan
lol omg :smile:))

Looks like the OP's gf has started a thread... 😆

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7497932
(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 89

Original post by ShropshireLad
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, but I don't see why me providing the emotional and mental support to her has to come with sexual control. We are both feminists and that perspective of me owning her body is not something I agree with. Our sex life has always had me more in a submissive role anyway. I'm not afraid to be called nice or a white knight.
If being a cheat makes her such a terrible person I should give her the opportunity to make things right and make things open and honest in our relationship again. But I don't want her to feel sexually limited and controlled. I just have to find the best way to do that. I don't know if asking her if she wants to try a threesome or something is the best way to do it.

Sexual control?
Sexual control of yourself? Yes! Definitely! That's the way to go for you to have the best life you can.
It's emotionally and mentally strong to have good sexual control of yourself.

Sexual control of her? Definitely not! She should be free to have sex with whomever she wants. However, you are free to stay with her or leave her at any time for any reason or no reason at all. It's an extremely valid reason to leave her because she's had sex with another and not told you about it.



Original post by ShropshireLad
Maybe she's not been open about this because there is so much social pressure and stigma about monogamy?

Social conditioning will come into. A lack of respect for you comes into it. A lack of admiration for you comes into it. A lack of sexual desire for you comes into it.

Monogamy - when done right - is the joint most beautiful thing in the universe. 2 people in love. Tolerating each other's faults. Going on adventures together. Having the trust in each other to have sex without a condom. The intimacy in giving each other generous amounts of sexual pleasure and satisfaction.


Original post by ShropshireLad
We've not properly had sex in about a month

That on its' own is a sufficient reason to dump her. Regardless of whether she's having sex with another.

I would not put up with that level of withdrawal from any woman I was with. Because life is too short and there's far too many wonderful women in the World that I could be spending my time with instead.



Original post by ShropshireLad
We know a couple who have threesomes. I was thinking of mentioning them, kind of making a joke about it, and then seeing if that gets a conversation started.
Neither of us had sex before we got together as she came from quite a conservative family so I know she is curious about this stuff but kind of repressed.

Neil Strauss wrote an interesting book about his expedition into the world of open relationships, threesomes, foursomes and all that.

He got sick of the scene after the novelty wore off.



Original post by ShropshireLad
Why do you have to try and possess your partner and be the only one she can turn to to fulfill all her needs? We don't do that with most needs, so why sexual needs?

My philosophy is that any partner of mine is free to leave at any time she wants. And if she met someone she thought she preferred to me, I'd want her to go off and try him. And that I'd want her to stay with me only as long as it makes full sense from her point of view. And that it's my job to motivate her to want to stay with me. And vice versa.

What is your girlfriend doing to motivate you to stay with her? From what you've told us: not enough. Therefore you should leave her and get another beautiful woman to be your next girlfriend.



Original post by ShropshireLad
I'm not sure. Maybe as a threesome but more with me just watching? Maybe her having 'date nights' with him when she needs something more sexually raw and then telling me about it afterwards.

Nah! That's the swamp of mediocrity!
You should be having love making sessions with her where she's having multiple orgasms or strong orgasms.

If you've got a nice car you don't go giving the keys to the car to some bloke down the gym, so he can go racing round in it!
You take it to Silverstone yourself and have a track days in it!



Original post by ShropshireLad
Why though? Why try to be dominant? Why pretend to be something I'm not?

It's your life journey. You can grow up and mature or you can stay as you are. The choice is yours.
Growing up and maturing will lead to a better life.

Displaying emotional and mental strength is NOT about being dominant over your girlfriend.
It's about being dominant over YOURSELF!
This is the foundation to romantic success in your life.
Check out the Chris Sixty youtube channel. He talks about being a "positive challenge" - and how it's better than being a "negative challenge" and being a "typical nice guy".
(edited 1 year ago)
Original post by NeoIan
Fair comments Jamie, and i get your POV, i just dont think its healthy sorry, but maybe im more old school. And caring about Shrops I personally wouldnt chase this girl in this way... just my angle.

Perfectly valid opinion to hold, particularly in this situation. As I say, whilst broadly I don't think there's anything wrong with this sort of thing when it's done the right way, there are all sorts of red flags in this situation, and as much as I strongly recommend that the OP speaks to his girlfriend about this, that's only because ending the relationship is the only real alternative. I didn't read the whole thread before I replied, though, and some of the things that Dunning Kruger has quoted do make me think that just ending this relationship is at least as viable an option here.

Original post by tellizard
Nowadays people tend to be so open minded their ******* brains fall out with with regards to sexual stuff. what ever happened to going to church?

Pretty bold take to suggest that the church may be a good place to learn about healthy sexual desires.

Reply 91

Original post by ShropshireLad
No. I'm straight, I think.

no you're not

Reply 92

Is this thread still going, whats the update from the scene ?🙂

Reply 93

Original post by ShropshireLad
Hi, I'm 24 (male) and my is girlfriend (21) and we both live in the UK. I really really love her and she is wonderful and extremely attractive and charismatic but I'm 95% sure she is cheating on me. She's spending a huge amount of time with this guy from her gym. They started working out together a lot (which is very physically intimate) and now she is going out socializing with him. She dolls herself up to go out with him basically like she's going on a date. She has lost a lot of sexual interest in me and when she has seen him she comes back with that 'Ive just been f**ked kind of aura. She's still very kind and loving with me and otherwise our relationship is still perfect. I haven't had the courage to ask her yet.
But the strange thing is, I'm not even that angry. In fact, and I know this will sound weird, but the thought of her being with him is such a turn on. The last few times she went out with him I spent most of the time at home masturbating. I almost don't want it to stop.
I know this sounds weird but what should I do? Should I just break up with her? But I feel she may be the one and I'll never have such a beautiful girl again? What should I say to her? Help?

Top tip; when you think somebody is cheating, just invite her on a minecraft E-date. Once she is on, you're going to speed-run the game as fast as possible with her. Once you have finished, you kill her, steal all her stuff, then ban her from the server. Now you have minecraft items, so your relationship has served is purpose.

Reply 94

What was the outcome here please ?

Reply 95

Original post by ShropshireLad
Hi, I'm 24 (male) and my is girlfriend (21) and we both live in the UK. I really really love her and she is wonderful and extremely attractive and charismatic but I'm 95% sure she is cheating on me. She's spending a huge amount of time with this guy from her gym. They started working out together a lot (which is very physically intimate) and now she is going out socializing with him. She dolls herself up to go out with him basically like she's going on a date. She has lost a lot of sexual interest in me and when she has seen him she comes back with that 'Ive just been f**ked kind of aura. She's still very kind and loving with me and otherwise our relationship is still perfect. I haven't had the courage to ask her yet.
But the strange thing is, I'm not even that angry. In fact, and I know this will sound weird, but the thought of her being with him is such a turn on. The last few times she went out with him I spent most of the time at home masturbating. I almost don't want it to stop.
I know this sounds weird but what should I do? Should I just break up with her? But I feel she may be the one and I'll never have such a beautiful girl again? What should I say to her? Help?

I think you’ve just discovered that you have a cuckoldery kink. There’s still a risk of her replacing you with this other man and breaking up with you, I think it’s worth discussing this with her tbh and be very honest with eachother. Maybe it will give you a chance to open up new doors to the relationship and have an open relationship or something.

Reply 96

Original post by NeoIan
Is this thread still going, whats the update from the scene ?🙂



Original post by NeoIan
What was the outcome here please ?

I've talked to my girlfriend, without letting on a was suspicious about anything, about suggesting a threesome or something else like that. She loves the idea and is really excited. She says she is going to think about who we should involve.

I was really nervous about talking to her about it but as usual she was so lovely and made it all really easy. I'm so lucky to have her.

Reply 97

Original post by Anonymous
I think you’ve just discovered that you have a cuckoldery kink. There’s still a risk of her replacing you with this other man and breaking up with you, I think it’s worth discussing this with her tbh and be very honest with eachother. Maybe it will give you a chance to open up new doors to the relationship and have an open relationship or something.

I though being a cuck was an insult right wing people use? I didn't think it was a real thing.

Reply 98

Original post by Vronskybeat
no you're not

Why?

Reply 99

Original post by ShropshireLad
I though being a cuck was an insult right wing people use? I didn't think it was a real thing.


It’s a description from Middle English.

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