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Should i do physics as a 4th a-level?

So I was planning to do medicine at university, and so I initially picked 3 a levels: biology, chemistry and maths. However, I've seen a lot of people also choose physics as a 4th a level, and I was wondering whether not doing physics means I'll be at a disadvantage. I've heard that universities usually only look at 3 a levels, but I suppose getting A*A*A*A* will always outweigh someone who gets 3A*. So here are the pros and cons of doing physics:
Pros:
- i like physics
- I have more career options (e.g. engineering) if medicine is not for me
- physics has a lot of transferable skills
- physics is cool
- i'm taking maths too so it could be a bit easier to do physics
- potentially go on cool trips in physics
Cons:
- i hate physics, especially mechanics
- i'm not good at physics and struggled a lot understanding concepts at gcse
- 4 a levels is too hectic for me and id better spend my time preparing for the ucat and other things like sleeping
- more exams to do during exam period = more stress
- may affect the quality of my other grades
- no point doing 4 a levels??? (not sure yet)
- not naturally good at physics so would struggle a lot and stress a lot and I have to take it for the full 2 years/can't do AS level at my college
- i'm not good at physics

I think the ultimate deciding factor are 2 things: 1. Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities? and 2. Will I enjoy doing physics? Our sixth form is doing OCR and so I don't have a choice between modules, and I'm sort of dreading learning about mechanics and everything. But other than that, physics is really interesting and I would have definitely studied it if I was naturally good at it. But im not, and so even if I would love learning about it, I wouldn't like failing every topic test given. Plus, more workload.

If anyone has the answer to the first question above, 'Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities?' , that would be really helpful. Thanks
@GANFYD might be able to answer this.

Reply 2

Original post by seagull11
So I was planning to do medicine at university, and so I initially picked 3 a levels: biology, chemistry and maths. However, I've seen a lot of people also choose physics as a 4th a level, and I was wondering whether not doing physics means I'll be at a disadvantage. I've heard that universities usually only look at 3 a levels, but I suppose getting A*A*A*A* will always outweigh someone who gets 3A*. So here are the pros and cons of doing physics:
Pros:
- i like physics
- I have more career options (e.g. engineering) if medicine is not for me
- physics has a lot of transferable skills
- physics is cool
- i'm taking maths too so it could be a bit easier to do physics
- potentially go on cool trips in physics
Cons:
- i hate physics, especially mechanics
- i'm not good at physics and struggled a lot understanding concepts at gcse
- 4 a levels is too hectic for me and id better spend my time preparing for the ucat and other things like sleeping
- more exams to do during exam period = more stress
- may affect the quality of my other grades
- no point doing 4 a levels??? (not sure yet)
- not naturally good at physics so would struggle a lot and stress a lot and I have to take it for the full 2 years/can't do AS level at my college
- i'm not good at physics
I think the ultimate deciding factor are 2 things: 1. Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities? and 2. Will I enjoy doing physics? Our sixth form is doing OCR and so I don't have a choice between modules, and I'm sort of dreading learning about mechanics and everything. But other than that, physics is really interesting and I would have definitely studied it if I was naturally good at it. But im not, and so even if I would love learning about it, I wouldn't like failing every topic test given. Plus, more workload.
If anyone has the answer to the first question above, 'Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities?' , that would be really helpful. Thanks

From what you’ve said I dont think it’s advisable for you to Physics.
In terms of strengthening your application, you are right that unis only look at 3 of your grades and your subject combination already gives you a lot of options for study so I wouldn’t be too concerned about this. Medicine is really competitive and you said youre not naturally good at physics, so you’ll have to spend a lot of time on it to keep up which will negatively impact on your other grades- the important ones for your uni application for medicine. Also for medicine you’ll need to focus on admissions tests (like ucat as you mentioned) and extracurriculars to make yourself more desirable for unis so taking up your time with an extra a level in a subject youre not that passionate about could ultimately weaken your application.
Hope this helps, have a nice day :smile:

Reply 3

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Reply 4

Pros: I like physics
Cons: I hate physics

Definitely checks out!

Reply 5

Original post by DerDracologe
From what you’ve said I dont think it’s advisable for you to Physics.
In terms of strengthening your application, you are right that unis only look at 3 of your grades and your subject combination already gives you a lot of options for study so I wouldn’t be too concerned about this. Medicine is really competitive and you said youre not naturally good at physics, so you’ll have to spend a lot of time on it to keep up which will negatively impact on your other grades- the important ones for your uni application for medicine. Also for medicine you’ll need to focus on admissions tests (like ucat as you mentioned) and extracurriculars to make yourself more desirable for unis so taking up your time with an extra a level in a subject youre not that passionate about could ultimately weaken your application.
Hope this helps, have a nice day :smile:

Thankyou so much for your reply!

Reply 6

Original post by Luqmlam
Pros: I like physics
Cons: I hate physics
Definitely checks out!

Oh I was supposed to elaborate on that part but then forgot sorry 😭 I like physics in terms of learning about how it can be applied, the potential available in physics etc, but I dislike not getting the questions right, and taking a long time to understand the concepts. So in a way I like and dislike learning physics at the same time? I'm not sure how to explain it

Reply 7

Original post by seagull11
Oh I was supposed to elaborate on that part but then forgot sorry 😭 I like physics in terms of learning about how it can be applied, the potential available in physics etc, but I dislike not getting the questions right, and taking a long time to understand the concepts. So in a way I like and dislike learning physics at the same time? I'm not sure how to explain it

Yeah I understand what you mean it just made me laugh

Reply 8

Original post by Admit-One
@GANFYD might be able to answer this.


Absolutely no need to do any 4th A level and will confer little to no advantage and mean a lot of extra work, but if somebody wants to do a 4th A level, or school insist, the subject does not matter, providing they have chem and bio in their other A levels.
There's been some jiggery pokery done with this thread, no idea what has happened but all posts should now display. Sorry about that folks

Reply 10

Original post by seagull11
So I was planning to do medicine at university, and so I initially picked 3 a levels: biology, chemistry and maths. However, I've seen a lot of people also choose physics as a 4th a level, and I was wondering whether not doing physics means I'll be at a disadvantage. I've heard that universities usually only look at 3 a levels, but I suppose getting A*A*A*A* will always outweigh someone who gets 3A*. So here are the pros and cons of doing physics:
Pros:
- i like physics
- I have more career options (e.g. engineering) if medicine is not for me
- physics has a lot of transferable skills
- physics is cool
- i'm taking maths too so it could be a bit easier to do physics
- potentially go on cool trips in physics
Cons:
- i hate physics, especially mechanics
- i'm not good at physics and struggled a lot understanding concepts at gcse
- 4 a levels is too hectic for me and id better spend my time preparing for the ucat and other things like sleeping
- more exams to do during exam period = more stress
- may affect the quality of my other grades
- no point doing 4 a levels??? (not sure yet)
- not naturally good at physics so would struggle a lot and stress a lot and I have to take it for the full 2 years/can't do AS level at my college
- i'm not good at physics
I think the ultimate deciding factor are 2 things: 1. Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities? and 2. Will I enjoy doing physics? Our sixth form is doing OCR and so I don't have a choice between modules, and I'm sort of dreading learning about mechanics and everything. But other than that, physics is really interesting and I would have definitely studied it if I was naturally good at it. But im not, and so even if I would love learning about it, I wouldn't like failing every topic test given. Plus, more workload.
If anyone has the answer to the first question above, 'Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities?' , that would be really helpful. Thanks

Hello,
I was in the same situation many moons ago, I’m not sure if it will be the same but I kept it on til AS level and then dropped it in the final year. I loved physics actually and was my easiest subject but was on the med track and you only get extra points for having a fourth at AS level so that was the one to go. I got extra free periods with my friends in final year and took the free time just as relax time tbh and wouldn’t do anything differently. If you want to do engineering maths is enough so don’t let that stop you :smile:
(edited 11 months ago)

Reply 11

Original post by 04MR17
There's been some jiggery pokery done with this thread, no idea what has happened but all posts should now display. Sorry about that folks

“Jiggery-pokery” is a sadly under utilised word. Nice to see it in the wild 😜

Reply 12

Original post by username6915615
So I was planning to do medicine at university, and so I initially picked 3 a levels: biology, chemistry and maths. However, I've seen a lot of people also choose physics as a 4th a level, and I was wondering whether not doing physics means I'll be at a disadvantage. I've heard that universities usually only look at 3 a levels, but I suppose getting A*A*A*A* will always outweigh someone who gets 3A*. So here are the pros and cons of doing physics:
Pros:
- i like physics
- I have more career options (e.g. engineering) if medicine is not for me
- physics has a lot of transferable skills
- physics is cool
- i'm taking maths too so it could be a bit easier to do physics
- potentially go on cool trips in physics
Cons:
- i hate physics, especially mechanics
- i'm not good at physics and struggled a lot understanding concepts at gcse
- 4 a levels is too hectic for me and id better spend my time preparing for the ucat and other things like sleeping
- more exams to do during exam period = more stress
- may affect the quality of my other grades
- no point doing 4 a levels??? (not sure yet)
- not naturally good at physics so would struggle a lot and stress a lot and I have to take it for the full 2 years/can't do AS level at my college
- i'm not good at physics
I think the ultimate deciding factor are 2 things: 1. Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities? and 2. Will I enjoy doing physics? Our sixth form is doing OCR and so I don't have a choice between modules, and I'm sort of dreading learning about mechanics and everything. But other than that, physics is really interesting and I would have definitely studied it if I was naturally good at it. But im not, and so even if I would love learning about it, I wouldn't like failing every topic test given. Plus, more workload.
If anyone has the answer to the first question above, 'Do you have an advantage over other students if you do physics as a 4th a level when applying to competitve universities?' , that would be really helpful. Thanks

Hi,
I was in the exact same situation as you last year and I've decided to continue with Maths, Bio, Chem and Physics A-Level for year 13. Doing any 4 A-Levels is a lot of work, don't get me wrong, but this combination is especially stressful and hectic. Just to preface, I got 9s in all those subjects at GCSE and love them all, but I struggled A LOT with juggling them for half of year 12 alongside all the other super and extracurriculars you need for medicine. It took a lot of hard work and a lot of tears but I ended up getting 4 A*s in my year 12 finals, so it is very possible!!

However, I most definitely wouldn't have been able to do that if I didn't love my subjects so much because it takes a lot of stamina to do them all and continue with 4 in Year 13. So, from what you've said in your cons list I don't think you should take it as a 4th because if you're going to struggle with it, then lose interest because you're struggling and debate whether or not to drop it for a while, you're going to waste a lot of time that you could be spending on other subjects, med supercurriculars or just on yourself.

Eventhough I love all my subjects, when I was choosing them, the thought of 4 A-Levels making me a more desireable candidate for universities did play an important role in my decision. But now, from what I know after a year of research into it, med schools honestly couldn't care less whether you do 3 or 4. And I know everyone says it - so I'm sorry that I'm labouring the point, but it's true - 3 A*s is always more competitive than 4 As. Applying for medicine is tough, stressful and you can often feel quite alone with it. So isolating yourself more by giving yourself more work, that you seem like you won't enjoy, will just make things so much harder for you.

And take it from an overachiever, you don't need to do everything to be a competitive applicant. You just need to do the major things well. So please don't put yourself down if other people seem to be doing a lot more than you because trust me it's not sustainable and the people that big themselves up for doing it all now will crumble.

At the end of the day do what you enjoy. Regardless of what you choose I hope you succeed and get some great offers for Medicine. And if you ever need any advice on the 4 subjects, if you end up taking them, send me a private message and I'll be so happy to help you because I really wish someone would have done that for me last year haha. I do OCR Physics as well btw. Good luck <3

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