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Gonville & Caius vs Queen's College (Law)

I had an open day at Cambridge a couple of days ago but I only had a chance to tour Queen's. I have the opportunity to take the foundation year in humanities at several colleges: with Downing's, Queen's and Caius being equally strong in law- which I'd like to pursue. However, I'm looking for a small-medium medieval-themed college with a good team of professors and close-knit bonds.

I've compiled pros and cons that I've gathered from personal experience and research ((the studentroom's own pros and cons seem to be a bit outdated I'll get to that in a bit)) I hope some of the students who have actually studied there might correct me or offer your thoughts:

**Queen's**

Pros:
- I'm certain Law is taught on site (source: sign in the old court when I was there)
- Opportunity to live in one of the older medieval buildings in the third year of the undergraduate course which is pretty cool.
- The whole dark side is really beautiful, despite the Cambridge Tab calling it mediocre.
- The foundesses are interesting.
- The people are supposed to be nice (my tour guy was cool).
- Karaoke.
- The Coat of Arms are really nice.
- Free laundry.
- Monsters University vibes on the light side.
- The rooftop gardens go hard.
- The chapel is pretty and the choir is really close when it comes to college involvement.
- Alumni with links to international criminal law.

Cons:
- Formals are just, well, a formality that you don't have to go to it seems.
- The library seems crampable and you need special access to get to the good bits.
- The porters have a reputation on google reviews and tripadvisors for being rude or picky.
- I don't find the new buildings ugly but the first year accommodation seems odd and, second-year accommodation is off-site despite what the Student Room says (source: the tour guy who was really nice idk his name but he was cool).
- College colours are bad.
- """Poor""" though tbf I don't know if you could call a 100mil endowment """poor""" but there you go.
-The electricity bills are a bit steep.
-On the larger side.

**Caius**

Pros:
- Formals that you have to go to no matter what, where you get cool capes (I love structure and I don't like cooking).
- Properly old, like there were still crusaders, beserkers and warlocks running around when the first charter was given.
- Cool name that really will stand out on Linkedin.
- Rowing.
- Doesn't encourage (look for) A-Level Law, and doesn't mind if you have a high number of STEM A-Levels. As long as you have the grades, of course.
- I didn't get there on time because it was after 4 but the one guy I did meet was really nice when it came to telling us there were no more tours for the evening.
- Intimate atmosphere I really got from watching YT videos.
- Nice library
- College colours are good,
- The Caius court is pretty.
- People say the food is bad it looks nice like my mum's cooking to me.
- Impressive choir.
- Costs included in accommodation prices.
- Accommodation not as far from site as people say, and bonus if you live on sidgwick site.
- Interesting professors that specialise in international law.

Cons:
- I'm not really sure Law is taught on site, though it probably is.
- Although it's older than Queen's, most of the buildings have classical facades. Even the chapel, which is supposed to be the oldest purpose-built in use in Cambridge, has been revamped into rampant classicism except for the special bay window behind the altar.
- Has a reputation for having tory people, but I've also heard that's changed in the last ten years or so and now everyone is pretty normal.
- No opportunity to live in some ancient musty medieval place.
- The coat of arms are mid.
- Is it really that old if it's been re-founded twice between a period of 200-years? This "um akchully" point is annoying me too I'm wondering if I should remove it entirely. I think this one is borderline heretical.
- Away from river :frown: I am being seduced by pond water.

Any law students who have input on their college experience? Are there any points I missed? Are you proud of your college and you want to defend my devious points, please let me know.

I will need help deciding for preference so thank you for answers in advance.
(edited 5 months ago)
Reply 1
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This is a fun post! Food at Caius is perfectly fine - not amazing but it's definitely not bad, it tastes good - have had it quite a lot. On the tryness - I'm not sure about the student body but certainly the fellowship have not gotten much more progressive, and there are frequent scandals about race/gender/lgbtq stuff (google it for a bit and you'll find multiple in the last year.) Basically a lot of the older non-teaching fellowship are old white guys with views to match. Despite that, i'd recommend G&C! It's really nice and the hall is lovely. Above all else, remember that college makes about 1/1000th of the difference to your uni experience than the university does - it doesn't matter that much!
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Original post by Anonymous
This is a fun post! Food at Caius is perfectly fine - not amazing but it's definitely not bad, it tastes good - have had it quite a lot. On the tryness - I'm not sure about the student body but certainly the fellowship have not gotten much more progressive, and there are frequent scandals about race/gender/lgbtq stuff (google it for a bit and you'll find multiple in the last year.) Basically a lot of the older non-teaching fellowship are old white guys with views to match. Despite that, i'd recommend G&C! It's really nice and the hall is lovely. Above all else, remember that college makes about 1/1000th of the difference to your uni experience than the university does - it doesn't matter that much!

I'm thinking in any old institution you're going to meet odd characters but it doesn't really affect student life.

Also with where the accommodation is, it seems you'll be crossing the same river as you'd do at Queen's every day (Cambridge is small I really don't think the Caius stuff is that far away) and the chances of getting a set with a river view are pretty much nil.

((Thx for your reply)).

((I've done more research and the chapel's special bay window is actually the youngest part my bad)).
(edited 5 months ago)
Original post by turbidite
I'm thinking in any old institution you're going to meet odd characters but it doesn't really affect student life.
Also with where the accommodation is, it seems you'll be crossing the same river as you'd do at Queen's every day (Cambridge is small I really don't think the Caius stuff is that far away) and the chances of getting a set with a river view are pretty much nil.
((Thx for your reply)).
((I've done more research and the chapel's special bay window is actually the youngest part my bad)).
It probably won't affect you much, but it's just a lot of culture war stuff going on in the background and certainly is more prevalent than the average college. I'm not sure how that affects what kind of student body is attracted/repelled by it. Best example is the row over stopping pride flags being flown.

With regard to the river - you'll get a lot of it regardless of which college you go to, DW.
Reply 5
Original post by turbidite
I had an open day at Cambridge a couple of days ago but I only had a chance to tour Queen's. I have the opportunity to take the foundation year in humanities at several colleges: with Downing's, Queen's and Caius being equally strong in law- which I'd like to pursue. However, I'm looking for a small-medium medieval-themed college with a good team of professors and close-knit bonds.
I've compiled pros and cons that I've gathered from personal experience and research ((the studentroom's own pros and cons seem to be a bit outdated I'll get to that in a bit)) I hope some of the students who have actually studied there might correct me or offer your thoughts:
**Queen's**
Pros:
- I'm certain Law is taught on site (source: sign in the old court when I was there)
- Opportunity to live in one of the older medieval buildings in the third year of the undergraduate course which is pretty cool.
- The whole dark side is really beautiful, despite the Cambridge Tab calling it mediocre.
- The foundesses are interesting.
- The people are supposed to be nice (my tour guy was cool).
- Karaoke.
- The Coat of Arms are really nice.
- Free laundry.
- Monsters University vibes on the light side.
- The rooftop gardens go hard.
- The chapel is pretty and the choir is really close when it comes to college involvement.
- Alumni with links to international criminal law.
Cons:
- Formals are just, well, a formality that you don't have to go to it seems.
- The library seems crampable and you need special access to get to the good bits.
- The porters have a reputation on google reviews and tripadvisors for being rude or picky.
- I don't find the new buildings ugly but the first year accommodation seems odd and, second-year accommodation is off-site despite what the Student Room says (source: the tour guy who was really nice idk his name but he was cool).
- College colours are bad.
- """Poor""" though tbf I don't know if you could call a 100mil endowment """poor""" but there you go.
-The electricity bills are a bit steep.
-On the larger side.
**Caius**
Pros:
- Formals that you have to go to no matter what, where you get cool capes (I love structure and I don't like cooking).
- Properly old, like there were still crusaders, beserkers and warlocks running around when the first charter was given.
- Cool name that really will stand out on Linkedin.
- Rowing.
- Doesn't encourage (look for) A-Level Law, and doesn't mind if you have a high number of STEM A-Levels. As long as you have the grades, of course.
- I didn't get there on time because it was after 4 but the one guy I did meet was really nice when it came to telling us there were no more tours for the evening.
- Intimate atmosphere I really got from watching YT videos.
- Nice library
- College colours are good,
- The Caius court is pretty.
- People say the food is bad it looks nice like my mum's cooking to me.
- Impressive choir.
- Costs included in accommodation prices.
- Accommodation not as far from site as people say, and bonus if you live on sidgwick site.
- Interesting professors that specialise in international law.
Cons:
- I'm not really sure Law is taught on site, though it probably is.
- Although it's older than Queen's, most of the buildings have classical facades. Even the chapel, which is supposed to be the oldest purpose-built in use in Cambridge, has been revamped into rampant classicism except for the special bay window behind the altar.
- Has a reputation for having tory people, but I've also heard that's changed in the last ten years or so and now everyone is pretty normal.
- No opportunity to live in some ancient musty medieval place.
- The coat of arms are mid.
- Is it really that old if it's been re-founded twice between a period of 200-years? This "um akchully" point is annoying me too I'm wondering if I should remove it entirely. I think this one is borderline heretical.
- Away from river :frown: I am being seduced by pond water.
Any law students who have input on their college experience? Are there any points I missed? Are you proud of your college and you want to defend my devious points, please let me know.
I will need help deciding for preference so thank you for answers in advance.


your cons for g&c are a bit frivolous, overall from what you’ve said and my own research i would say g&c. especially for law as its 2nd on the student good guide as a college for law and 7th on the tompkins table. their tiktok account is also really fun i think you should take a look. but here is my own pros and cons list if it helps: pros: next to church so i can go on sunday, all first years live together so social, modern rooms, only 15m walk to lecture, looks really nice, nice library, nice porters, cons: ugly gown, rent constantly increasing, 3rd most expensive college to live at, 55.9% only come from state schools less than average, have to eat in hall 36 times per term meaning you have to put money on meal card so more expensive, not very good food,
Reply 6
Original post by sldkldsa
your cons for g&c are a bit frivolous, overall from what you’ve said and my own research i would say g&c. especially for law as its 2nd on the student good guide as a college for law and 7th on the tompkins table. their tiktok account is also really fun i think you should take a look. but here is my own pros and cons list if it helps: pros: next to church so i can go on sunday, all first years live together so social, modern rooms, only 15m walk to lecture, looks really nice, nice library, nice porters, cons: ugly gown, rent constantly increasing, 3rd most expensive college to live at, 55.9% only come from state schools less than average, have to eat in hall 36 times per term meaning you have to put money on meal card so more expensive, not very good food,

I had no idea the rent keeps going up 0_0 I need to take that one into account.

Thanks for replying.

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