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Combined ADHD positive diagnosis am I eligibile for extra time in UCAT?

I have Combined ADHD positive diagnosis am I eligibile for extra time in UCAT and A levels?

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For a levels you’ll need to speak to your sixth form’s senco. The JCQ rules state that if you have a diagnosis and extra time is needed as part of your normal way of working you are entitled to it. Your school will likely need evidence that you frequently underperform on tests due to not having enough time, is this the case? Then they will have to see if the issue improves with extra time and have you use it for all tests and mocks, making it your normal way of working. They have to fill in a form 9 so no application is made to the exam board- basically if you need it and you use it then they should let you have it without cognitive testing providing its an NHS diagnosis as private are usually not allowed by the regulations as far as I know.
See this link for info on extra time for the ucat: https://www.ucat.ac.uk/register/access-arrangements/
(edited 12 months ago)

Reply 3

Original post by DerDracologe
For a levels you’ll need to speak to your sixth form’s senco. The JCQ rules state that if you have a diagnosis and extra time is needed as part of your normal way of working you are entitled to it. Your school will likely need evidence that you frequently underperform on tests due to not having enough time, is this the case? Then they will have to see if the issue improves with extra time and have you use it for all tests and mocks, making it your normal way of working. They have to fill in a form 9 so no application is made to the exam board- basically if you need it and you use it then they should let you have it without cognitive testing providing its an NHS diagnosis as private are usually not allowed by the regulations as far as I know.
See this link for info on extra time for the ucat: https://www.ucat.ac.uk/register/access-arrangements/

Hi I got diagnosed privately as I needed it quickly and I'm resitting my a levels at a private exams centre so what do I do)

Reply 4

Original post by Rohan007best
Hi I got diagnosed privately as I needed it quickly and I'm resitting my a levels at a private exams centre so what do I do)

As it’s a private diagnosis I dont think it’s accepted for extra time using a form 9 (it’s stupid). Also as private candidate it can be difficult to prove normal way of working so if you think you need extra time then you’ll have to get tested- not sure how though because its usually through school. Do you think you need the extra time to do well? How did you manage for GCSEs?
For the UCAT im unsure if they’ll accept private diagnosis- they very well might I just have no knowledge so it’s definitely worth a shot but it seems for their site that they’ll only put in place access arrangements which are already in place of the centre/school is planning on putting in place.
I think Im going to have to look into this if i get the time :smile:
Hope things get sorted for you!

Reply 5

Original post by DerDracologe
As it’s a private diagnosis I dont think it’s accepted for extra time using a form 9 (it’s stupid). Also as private candidate it can be difficult to prove normal way of working so if you think you need extra time then you’ll have to get tested- not sure how though because its usually through school. Do you think you need the extra time to do well? How did you manage for GCSEs?
For the UCAT im unsure if they’ll accept private diagnosis- they very well might I just have no knowledge so it’s definitely worth a shot but it seems for their site that they’ll only put in place access arrangements which are already in place of the centre/school is planning on putting in place.
I think Im going to have to look into this if i get the time :smile:
Hope things get sorted for you!

Please don't tell me I wasted all that money getting my diagnosis I genuinely thought I'm too slow at college and my exam performance was affected so I got the diagnosis my GP did a referral for me but we did It privately because the NHS has a long waiting list

Reply 6

Original post by DerDracologe
As it’s a private diagnosis I dont think it’s accepted for extra time using a form 9 (it’s stupid). Also as private candidate it can be difficult to prove normal way of working so if you think you need extra time then you’ll have to get tested- not sure how though because its usually through school. Do you think you need the extra time to do well? How did you manage for GCSEs?
For the UCAT im unsure if they’ll accept private diagnosis- they very well might I just have no knowledge so it’s definitely worth a shot but it seems for their site that they’ll only put in place access arrangements which are already in place of the centre/school is planning on putting in place.
I think Im going to have to look into this if i get the time :smile:
Hope things get sorted for you!

Not disagreeing with you (because I don't know enough about the guidelines!) but if the ADHD diagnosis came from a psychiatrist at a reputable private clinic based in the UK then I would find it quite bizarre that an exam board or exam provider would simply refuse to accept the diagnosis. Like, what's their expertise here? Surely it's not within their remit to adjudicate on the validity of medical diagnoses?

Reply 7

Original post by Rohan007best
Please don't tell me I wasted all that money getting my diagnosis I genuinely thought I'm too slow at college and my exam performance was affected so I got the diagnosis my GP did a referral for me but we did It privately because the NHS has a long waiting list

It’s not a waste, dont worry! It’s respected by employers and universities. I’ve been told that the way the jcq regs work for exams is that it has to be nhs, still not a waste though because you mentioned you need the extra time because your speed of working is below average, so you’re likely to have below average speed of reading/writing or processing scores. If that’s the case then you’ll be able to get the extra time using a form 8 if you can find an assessor.

Reply 8

Original post by Democracy
Not disagreeing with you (because I don't know enough about the guidelines!) but if the ADHD diagnosis came from a psychiatrist at a reputable private clinic based in the UK then I would find it quite bizarre that an exam board or exam provider would simply refuse to accept the diagnosis. Like, what's their expertise here? Surely it's not within their remit to adjudicate on the validity of medical diagnoses?

Im going to look into it, im not an expert myself either but i have read the regs and it’s at a point where the senco at my school asks me to explain it to him! Someone in that dept at my school said they avoid using private diagnosis because it’s usually not accepted- i dont know why and im going to check the regs on this because it seems stupid but either way op seems to have issues with speed of working which could be validated by standardised scores and a form 8 so they should do that if they can find an assessor. The reason why it works like (having two pathways) is i think because it means if someone has say autism or anxiety and so they work at a different pace because of that but their cognitive abilities usually are average or above average in reading, writing and processing then they can still get the accommodations they need. I hope this provides some clarification and sorry in advance if I’ve made any mistakes (i dont believe i have but ill check)

Reply 9

This is what the regs say:IMG_0372.jpeg Do you have any of these OP? As I understand it if you’ve got one of those piece of evidence a form 9 might just work with no scores testing- im still unclear on how to apply as a private candidate as for a form 9 teaching staff need to verify that it’s the normal way of working and i dont know who would complete the form 9 but ill see if i can find anything.

Reply 10

Okay so from what I can gather OP you need to speak to the SENCo of the centre where you will be sitting your exams. You'll need to tell them what your needs are and give your evidence and discuss what adjustments (so extra time) you need to be made. The centre should then be able to make the application for you- provided your evidence fits the guidelines i showed above. They apparently might want evidence of you struggling with timed work and they might test this themselves (like make you do a paper with normal time and then with extra time to see if there’s a marked difference). I hope this helps you out, and sorry for the fragmented posts!

Reply 11

Original post by DerDracologe
Okay so from what I can gather OP you need to speak to the SENCo of the centre where you will be sitting your exams. You'll need to tell them what your needs are and give your evidence and discuss what adjustments (so extra time) you need to be made. The centre should then be able to make the application for you- provided your evidence fits the guidelines i showed above. They apparently might want evidence of you struggling with timed work and they might test this themselves (like make you do a paper with normal time and then with extra time to see if there’s a marked difference). I hope this helps you out, and sorry for the fragmented posts!

Hi so all I have right now is a positive diagnosis letter from a practitioner. It explains which types of ADHD I have and what I struggle with which is mostly inattentiveness and lack of focus. Will this be ok and my exam centre doesn't have a senco as far as I'm aware they are a private tuition centre and only do resit exams there are students who have extra time there but I think that's from them having it previously in college and school what should I do?

Reply 12

Original post by Rohan007best
Hi so all I have right now is a positive diagnosis letter from a practitioner. It explains which types of ADHD I have and what I struggle with which is mostly inattentiveness and lack of focus. Will this be ok and my exam centre doesn't have a senco as far as I'm aware they are a private tuition centre and only do resit exams there are students who have extra time there but I think that's from them having it previously in college and school what should I do?

Have you spoken to the centre? Im sorry but I really dont know other than speaking to them and they’ll hopefully sort it out. Im also unsure about whether your diagnosis was done by one of relevant professionals listed- you could maybe ask your parents or the service you used about this? I hope you are able to get this sorted out, but my main piece of advice would be asking the centre what they feel you should do. I hope this helps a little :smile:
No idea about the UKAT, but regarding A Levels and university study:

Can you ask the practitioner if they'll write you a letter saying that you would benefit from extra time? I had my GP do this for a physical disability I had and my university gave me 25% additional time with no hassle whatsoever.

I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was out of university, but in the workplace I went through Occupational Health, who then wrote a letter to my employer that for training courses with an assessed element I would benefit from extra time. My employer then spoke to the company that awards these workplace qualifications and they also agreed to give me 25% extra time.

Support is absolutely out there if you go about it the right way.
(edited 12 months ago)

Reply 14

No idea about the UKAT, but regarding A Levels and university study:
Can you ask the practitioner if they'll write you a letter saying that you would benefit from extra time? I had my GP do this for a physical disability I had and my university gave me 25% additional time with no hassle whatsoever.
I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was out of university, but in the workplace I went through Occupational Health, who then wrote a letter to my employer that for training courses with an assessed element I would benefit from extra time. My employer then spoke to the company that awards these workplace qualifications and they also agreed to give me 25% extra time.
Support is absolutely out there if you go about it the right way.

For a levels they wont accept a letter from a GP for extra time, it’s stated specifically in the regulations. I like your idea of contacting the practitioner as long as theyre one of the specified people that can give evidence for a form 9- I pasted a screenshot of who they are above.
(edited 12 months ago)

Reply 15

hi thanks for all your support guys its really nice to hear so much information I didn't know of properly. So I just checked and on my supporting letter it says ADHD Specialist Clinician will this be ok? @DerDracologe

Reply 16

Original post by Rohan007best
hi thanks for all your support guys its really nice to hear so much information I didn't know of properly. So I just checked and on my supporting letter it says ADHD Specialist Clinician will this be ok? @DerDracologe

It’s worth a shot! They’re not mentioned in the regs explicitly but that’s actually quite positive in some ways because it means that they aren’t mentioned as being a professional which you cannot get evidence from. I would definitely contact your centre and get it all arranged, i personally cannot see a reason why your diagnosis wouldn’t could as supporting evidence, keep in mind though that your centre may disagree but hopefully it should be fine, I wish you the best of luck :smile:

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