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PGCE English Competitivness

I am planning on applying for PGCE English programs for the 2025/26 school year. I am American and I already have my Bachelors degree in English teaching and my American teaching license. When I apply, I am confident that I will have a strong personal statement and letters of recommendation from my university professors and the department head teacher at the school I teach at currently. I will already be halfway through my first year as a full-time secondary English teacher in an American school. I got high scores in all my AP exams and on the ACT which from what I understand is our closest equivalent to A-levels and GCSEs. My one concern is that for my bachelors degree I had a 3.2 gpa which from what I understand is about a 2:2 degree maybe right on the line of being a 2:1, though I could be wrong about that.
I need to apply to schools that sponsor visas and I would prefer to apply to schools in London though I am open to branching out.
Since my gpa was pretty average, I am slightly worried about my chances of getting in. I am not super picky about where I go, I just want to get the qualifications I need in order to be able to get a job and stay in the UK once I finish. When choosing where to apply, I would rather not have to worry too much about whether I will be accepted so I would like to focus my applications on schools where my chances are higher.
Since I did not grow up there I don't feel like I have the best gauge on which schools are particularly competitive or not and I would rather focus my applications on schools where I have a higher chance of getting in. I want to apply to about 8. I have done a lot of research and the ones I am looking at most right now are Middlesex, Brunel, UEL, St. Mary's Twickenham, and Kingston. I have thought about maybe doing it in Wales and am also considering Bangor, Cardiff Met, and Trinity St. David.
I am wondering if anyone has any advice on schools to apply to. Are any of the schools above competitive enough that I have low chances of getting in and I should focus elsewhere? Are there any recommendations anyone has of other schools that would be worth looking into where I might have a decent shot of getting in? Does anyone have any general advice for making sure my applications are as strong as possible?

Reply 1

Original post by marianejoy
I am planning on applying for PGCE English programs for the 2025/26 school year. I am American and I already have my Bachelors degree in English teaching and my American teaching license. When I apply, I am confident that I will have a strong personal statement and letters of recommendation from my university professors and the department head teacher at the school I teach at currently. I will already be halfway through my first year as a full-time secondary English teacher in an American school. I got high scores in all my AP exams and on the ACT which from what I understand is our closest equivalent to A-levels and GCSEs. My one concern is that for my bachelors degree I had a 3.2 gpa which from what I understand is about a 2:2 degree maybe right on the line of being a 2:1, though I could be wrong about that.
I need to apply to schools that sponsor visas and I would prefer to apply to schools in London though I am open to branching out.
Since my gpa was pretty average, I am slightly worried about my chances of getting in. I am not super picky about where I go, I just want to get the qualifications I need in order to be able to get a job and stay in the UK once I finish. When choosing where to apply, I would rather not have to worry too much about whether I will be accepted so I would like to focus my applications on schools where my chances are higher.
Since I did not grow up there I don't feel like I have the best gauge on which schools are particularly competitive or not and I would rather focus my applications on schools where I have a higher chance of getting in. I want to apply to about 8. I have done a lot of research and the ones I am looking at most right now are Middlesex, Brunel, UEL, St. Mary's Twickenham, and Kingston. I have thought about maybe doing it in Wales and am also considering Bangor, Cardiff Met, and Trinity St. David.
I am wondering if anyone has any advice on schools to apply to. Are any of the schools above competitive enough that I have low chances of getting in and I should focus elsewhere? Are there any recommendations anyone has of other schools that would be worth looking into where I might have a decent shot of getting in? Does anyone have any general advice for making sure my applications are as strong as possible?

Hi @marianejoy

I'll be starting my PGCE in September. I'm doing Primary 5-11, which is probably more competitive than Secondary PGCEs. I honestly don't think you'll have an issue securing a place. However, there is a lot to think about, such as the different types of PGCEs. You can either do a PGCE with a university or you can do a SCITT with a school. Another thing to consider is where you want to live after you have completed your PGCE. If you do your PGCE in Wales, then you will be learning the Welsh curriculum, which is different to the curriculum taught in England.

You should be eligible for an advisor from Get Into Teaching. They are very helpful and will be able to support you with any queries related to teacher training. They also offer support with the application and interview process. Click this link to find out more!

I wish you all the best and good luck!

Ana - BCU Student Rep.

Reply 2

Original post by marianejoy
I am planning on applying for PGCE English programs for the 2025/26 school year. I am American and I already have my Bachelors degree in English teaching and my American teaching license. When I apply, I am confident that I will have a strong personal statement and letters of recommendation from my university professors and the department head teacher at the school I teach at currently. I will already be halfway through my first year as a full-time secondary English teacher in an American school. I got high scores in all my AP exams and on the ACT which from what I understand is our closest equivalent to A-levels and GCSEs. My one concern is that for my bachelors degree I had a 3.2 gpa which from what I understand is about a 2:2 degree maybe right on the line of being a 2:1, though I could be wrong about that.
I need to apply to schools that sponsor visas and I would prefer to apply to schools in London though I am open to branching out.
Since my gpa was pretty average, I am slightly worried about my chances of getting in. I am not super picky about where I go, I just want to get the qualifications I need in order to be able to get a job and stay in the UK once I finish. When choosing where to apply, I would rather not have to worry too much about whether I will be accepted so I would like to focus my applications on schools where my chances are higher.
Since I did not grow up there I don't feel like I have the best gauge on which schools are particularly competitive or not and I would rather focus my applications on schools where I have a higher chance of getting in. I want to apply to about 8. I have done a lot of research and the ones I am looking at most right now are Middlesex, Brunel, UEL, St. Mary's Twickenham, and Kingston. I have thought about maybe doing it in Wales and am also considering Bangor, Cardiff Met, and Trinity St. David.
I am wondering if anyone has any advice on schools to apply to. Are any of the schools above competitive enough that I have low chances of getting in and I should focus elsewhere? Are there any recommendations anyone has of other schools that would be worth looking into where I might have a decent shot of getting in? Does anyone have any general advice for making sure my applications are as strong as possible?

Hello there,

We are glad that you are considering to do your PGCE English in Wales! PGCE courses at Cardiff Met are very popular across Wales. We have quite a numbers of international students doing their PGCE with us.

PGCE courses at Cardiff Met are school-based programmes. You will spend more time in the allocated school and work with your tutor and students. Students are also required to come to the campus to attend some lectures, seminars and workshops during the week.

If you wish to study PGCE English at Cardiff Met, please apply via UCAS and we will assess your application. Please note that you can make the application now but you are unable to submit your application not until September.

Cardiff is a small and vibrant city. The campuses are very close to the city centre, it would only take about 20 - 30 minutes bus ride. If the weather is nice, you can even walk to the campus or the city!

Should you have any questions, please contact us via [email protected] and we are more than happy to assist you!

Cardiff Met Admissions. 😀

Reply 3

Hi @marianejoy

Great to hear your considering Brunel University London to study your PGCE!

Brunel has a big international student population and a very welcoming community feel. The campus has lots of facilities including restaurants, shops, a university gym, and lots of societies you can join. We are also 40 mins via tube to central London and only 20 mins by car to London Heathrow airport.

The Brunel Secondary School PGCE with recommendation for QTS is a recognised symbol of high-quality Teacher Education. You'll benefit from our partnerships with educational institutions and local schools. Many of our students go on to work in our partner schools and many more are employed in schools where they undertook a placement. Our department is ranked 1st in London for graduate jobs and further study too. As well as excellent feedback from partnership schools and student-teachers, additional significant external validation of the strength of initial teacher education provision at Brunel, came from Ofsted in June 2023.

If you have any questions to ask feel free to get back in touch!

All the best with your decision!

Sophie
Brunel London Student Rep

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