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I Faked 2 Years of Uni

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Reply 1

Original post by celineiaaa
TLDR —> Failed first year of Uni, about the fail my re-take year. Developed habitual lying, avoidance and procrastination which is destroying my life.
I am 21 years old. I enrolled into Chemical Engineering BEng 2 years ago at Sheffield Hallam University. I failed my first year, and I’m about to fail my retake year. Thinking about moving to the University of Sheffield to study English Literature BA.
Let’s start with GCSEs. I did well. A top grade of 9 (A*) in English Literature, 8 in RE, 7 in Chemistry etc. Some good grades. Maths let me down. I got an average pass, grade 4. Never really enjoyed it.
But I love English. I’m naturally very good at it, even as a child. I wrote books, poetry and joined competitions. But societal pressures and lowkey parental expectations caused me to think of finding a more lucrative career/degree.
The summer before starting A-levels, I told my parents I’ll become a doctor because I loved the TV shows. I took a summer internship at NHS and medic mentor. That passion died out quickly.
A-levels results day. I initially wanted to take Chemistry, maths and physics. I couldn’t take them because I didn’t know that a grade 6 in maths was required to take any science A-level. How silly.
So I decided to take A-level English Literature, sociology and philosophy at an amazing Sixth-Form. I was on track for an AAA*, top of my class. Loved the environment, teachers, buildings, friends etc. I was selected to visit the university of oxford for an exclusive tour for A-level students with potential. I really wanted to become a lawyer at that point and study law at the University of Oxford.
Until, i dropped out 6 months into it. Huge shock for my parents. At the time, i thought i disliked the repetitive essay writing in English Literature. I was so naive. I didn’t hate it, and I should’ve recognised that this was normal struggle. I loved my other 2 subjects- philosophy and Sociology. I felt like I didn’t enjoy my a-levels when really, I just wasn’t feeling stimulated. I thought STEM would be the career for me. After all, I do have decent grades in chemistry and physics. Not maths however. I thought that even with my not so natural aptitude/passion for maths, I could study hard and achieve it anyway. Boy, I was so wrong.*
I instead took a BTEC National extended diploma at Sheffield College in applied science, where I achieved grades DMM. I didn’t do as well as I hoped. Despised the new environment and the kinds of people there overall. I didn’t make any real friends here. Liked some modules though. This is where my mental issues started to arise due to the change of environment from college vs sixth form. I started procrastinating heavily, skipping classes and started making lies and excuses to push back exam dates. Eventually, I started to become a habitual liar to protect my reputation (even in personal life). My professor referred me to a mentor who suggested I get some therapy for stress management. It was via phone call which i hated. i prefer face to face. The therapy didn’t help and never went anywhere. It worked out in the end with my grades, but barely. I wanted a D*DD.*
I then went into Sheffield Hallam Chemical Engineering. I thought lowly of this school, kept comparing myself to my boyfriend who went to a ‘real university’ (as my uni’s security guard said). My whole class were all guys (besides one other girl). I didn’t make any friends in my course. I started off really strong, engaging lots and showed enthusiasm. Fresh start. I really stood out amongst my professors. I really gaslit myself for 2 years into thinking I enjoyed the material.
Then I got punched in the face with how difficult the maths got. Everyone else seemed to know the answers. They all did A-level maths. I’m stuck at GCSE level. I could NOT let myself be seen as an imposter or embarrassment. Especially after showing everyone how confident I was at the beginning. For the first time, I felt stupid in a class. I avoided asking for help, but most of all, got so intimidated and bored of the maths heavy modules. It spiralled out of control. Eventually skipped all lectures, seminars, labs, exams. Everything. The same procrastination, skipping and lying continued into my 2 years at Hallam.
I went to a few counselling sessions that the uni provided after I realised it was really getting out of control. This was where they suspected ADHD, l sometimes noticed extreme cycles of going between very productive to a depressive slump. I frequently suffer from slumps, but they’ve never been as bad as the ones i’ve experienced 5 months ago. I want to continue therapy. These behaviours were paramount. It caused me to lie about my driving exams which I didn’t turn up to 3 times now and lied about it each time. I lied, made excuses and elaborate stories about a lot of big responsibilities since then. What started off as small white lies snowballed into a massive pile of deception. I lied so I can preserve my reputation and image that I have of myself. Naturally, everyone else was tricked into this. I’m SICK of living a façade and living with the anxiety of being ‘found out’. Always thinking ‘how do I explain this’ or ‘hmm, what story shall I make up to cover xyz in case they ask?’
I feel like a failure and that I’ve disappointed my family, friends and partner. I lied for 2 years about my grades at Sheffield Hallam and said that I’m doing well and enjoying it. I wasn’t. I hated the school, subject, people. And i didn’t say anything about it. They still think that I’m about to start my last year. I also feel like a failure because for 1 year i struggled to afford my rent. They had to pay my other half of rent every month for a year, and they struggled mentally and financially because of this. I also kept giving them false hope because i’d always tell them i’m doing fine and taking on these new exciting projects. Why did it take me this long to realise I didn’t actually enjoy engineering?? These behaviours are ruining my life and i’ve gone untreated for too long- almost 4 years now.
I now want to pursue English Literature BA at the University of Sheffield with a Foundation Year. I don't meet the standard requirement, but I want to have a shot applying as a mature student, and explain my situation to be considered for additional consideration.
Has anyone been through something similar?

no. I suggest speaking to a career adviser. Additionally, you will be unable to obtain a student loan for a maximum period of 4 years, meaning you have already used up 2 of the student loan, therefore rendering it insufficient to begin another full time degree with a foundation year. For your own sake, I suggest you tell them the truth. Alas; I am astonished and perplexed.
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Reply 2

You sound more sorry the truth came out than you did actually lying to your family. If you'd have cared earlier, then you would have immediately tried to stop puttingt the financial / mental burdens on them, given their tender situation....

Reply 3

The whole lying thing is going to be your downfall so I suggest you confront this problem first and tell your family the truth and whatever else. Continue with therapy and talk through those whole situation with them too.

Secondly, you haven’t failed, you’ve tried and it didn’t work it. That’s not failing, it’s trying. It didn’t work and that’s okay you’ll figure it out and move forward. At the end of the day you’ve still got time to do whatever you want, don’t live for anyone but yourself, not even your parents. I’ve had this shadow over me too, my older siblings telling me to do finance and change the world or something and my parents telling me to get into healthcare. Even when I chose to do something against my wishes or chose a side, the other side would be disappointed in me. So I chose my own path. Other people dictating what I should do with my own future, are you nuts?

Anyways, why don’t you retake A-levels with the ones you’ve done? English, philosophy, sociology? There’s no shame in resitting and it’ll take one year then go straight to any chosen university you want. Or why don’t you study English in Open University? Stay at home, work part time and study? I’m sure you’ll be able to manage it.
It sounds like you're already in contact with our support services, but I'm going to drop some links just in case.
Student Support Advisers | Sheffield Hallam University (shu.ac.uk)
Mature students at Hallam | Sheffield Hallam University (shu.ac.uk)

You can book an appointment with our careers team to think about your next steps Careers & Employability | Sheffield Hallam University (shu.ac.uk)

Please do reach out to our support services, if you haven't already, so we can assist you in this situation.

Hope this helps 🙂

Reply 5

You sound so spoilt ngl I wasn't even able to read the whole thing it got on my nerves

Reply 6

Original post by celineiaaa
TLDR —> Failed first year of Uni, about the fail my re-take year. Developed habitual lying, avoidance and procrastination which is destroying my life.
I am 21 years old. I enrolled into Chemical Engineering BEng 2 years ago at Sheffield Hallam University. I failed my first year, and I’m about to fail my retake year. Thinking about moving to the University of Sheffield to study English Literature BA.
Let’s start with GCSEs. I did well. A top grade of 9 (A*) in English Literature, 8 in RE, 7 in Chemistry etc. Some good grades. Maths let me down. I got an average pass, grade 4. Never really enjoyed it.
But I love English. I’m naturally very good at it, even as a child. I wrote books, poetry and joined competitions. But societal pressures and lowkey parental expectations caused me to think of finding a more lucrative career/degree.
The summer before starting A-levels, I told my parents I’ll become a doctor because I loved the TV shows. I took a summer internship at NHS and medic mentor. That passion died out quickly.
A-levels results day. I initially wanted to take Chemistry, maths and physics. I couldn’t take them because I didn’t know that a grade 6 in maths was required to take any science A-level. How silly.
So I decided to take A-level English Literature, sociology and philosophy at an amazing Sixth-Form. I was on track for an AAA*, top of my class. Loved the environment, teachers, buildings, friends etc. I was selected to visit the university of oxford for an exclusive tour for A-level students with potential. I really wanted to become a lawyer at that point and study law at the University of Oxford.
Until, i dropped out 6 months into it. Huge shock for my parents. At the time, i thought i disliked the repetitive essay writing in English Literature. I was so naive. I didn’t hate it, and I should’ve recognised that this was normal struggle. I loved my other 2 subjects- philosophy and Sociology. I felt like I didn’t enjoy my a-levels when really, I just wasn’t feeling stimulated. I thought STEM would be the career for me. After all, I do have decent grades in chemistry and physics. Not maths however. I thought that even with my not so natural aptitude/passion for maths, I could study hard and achieve it anyway. Boy, I was so wrong.*
I instead took a BTEC National extended diploma at Sheffield College in applied science, where I achieved grades DMM. I didn’t do as well as I hoped. Despised the new environment and the kinds of people there overall. I didn’t make any real friends here. Liked some modules though. This is where my mental issues started to arise due to the change of environment from college vs sixth form. I started procrastinating heavily, skipping classes and started making lies and excuses to push back exam dates. Eventually, I started to become a habitual liar to protect my reputation (even in personal life). My professor referred me to a mentor who suggested I get some therapy for stress management. It was via phone call which i hated. i prefer face to face. The therapy didn’t help and never went anywhere. It worked out in the end with my grades, but barely. I wanted a D*DD.*
I then went into Sheffield Hallam Chemical Engineering. I thought lowly of this school, kept comparing myself to my boyfriend who went to a ‘real university’ (as my uni’s security guard said). My whole class were all guys (besides one other girl). I didn’t make any friends in my course. I started off really strong, engaging lots and showed enthusiasm. Fresh start. I really stood out amongst my professors. I really gaslit myself for 2 years into thinking I enjoyed the material.
Then I got punched in the face with how difficult the maths got. Everyone else seemed to know the answers. They all did A-level maths. I’m stuck at GCSE level. I could NOT let myself be seen as an imposter or embarrassment. Especially after showing everyone how confident I was at the beginning. For the first time, I felt stupid in a class. I avoided asking for help, but most of all, got so intimidated and bored of the maths heavy modules. It spiralled out of control. Eventually skipped all lectures, seminars, labs, exams. Everything. The same procrastination, skipping and lying continued into my 2 years at Hallam.
I went to a few counselling sessions that the uni provided after I realised it was really getting out of control. This was where they suspected ADHD, l sometimes noticed extreme cycles of going between very productive to a depressive slump. I frequently suffer from slumps, but they’ve never been as bad as the ones i’ve experienced 5 months ago. I want to continue therapy. These behaviours were paramount. It caused me to lie about my driving exams which I didn’t turn up to 3 times now and lied about it each time. I lied, made excuses and elaborate stories about a lot of big responsibilities since then. What started off as small white lies snowballed into a massive pile of deception. I lied so I can preserve my reputation and image that I have of myself. Naturally, everyone else was tricked into this. I’m SICK of living a façade and living with the anxiety of being ‘found out’. Always thinking ‘how do I explain this’ or ‘hmm, what story shall I make up to cover xyz in case they ask?’
I feel like a failure and that I’ve disappointed my family, friends and partner. I lied for 2 years about my grades at Sheffield Hallam and said that I’m doing well and enjoying it. I wasn’t. I hated the school, subject, people. And i didn’t say anything about it. They still think that I’m about to start my last year. I also feel like a failure because for 1 year i struggled to afford my rent. They had to pay my other half of rent every month for a year, and they struggled mentally and financially because of this. I also kept giving them false hope because i’d always tell them i’m doing fine and taking on these new exciting projects. Why did it take me this long to realise I didn’t actually enjoy engineering?? These behaviours are ruining my life and i’ve gone untreated for too long- almost 4 years now.
I now want to pursue English Literature BA at the University of Sheffield with a Foundation Year. I don't meet the standard requirement, but I want to have a shot applying as a mature student, and explain my situation to be considered for additional consideration.
Has anyone been through something similar?

LOOK HERE! You are struggling because High School was a breeze due to their learning requirements and now you're an adult in the effing REAL world. To protect your self-image by distorting people's perception of you through lies and deceit is going to hit you so hard it's beyond comprehension. Such lies build a dam wall of problems that will break all of a sudden and then your reputation is ruined for life.

Take yourself by the scruff of the neck and throw yourself under the bus by admitting the truth to yourself: you failed your own ethical standard and you cannot stand feeling so helpless aand being a fraud is your response to that drowning feeling of helplessness.

It is NOT A CRIME TO ASK FOR HELP!!! Ask for help from those you love and people who care about you because their opinion will only improve if you do before it becomes impossible to tell them yourself because the dam of lies breaks and drowns your relationship with them.

As for the ADHD, I personally think maybe Asperger's (ASC/ASD). Whilst what I've written is harsh, it is realistic and comes from my personal experience in a similar situation. At the end of the day nobody cares about a liar so stop wit the lies to yourself. You are not deceiving anyone but yourself. The truth does come out so go with the truth and the lies will wash away with it but don't let you reputation wash away with them by continuing the lies.

You are the one who has to pay for your fauilures for the rest of your life, not anyone else, so best pull yourself together, and get honest with yourself that you failed but it does not mean you are a failure. Everyone fails in life but you don't hear much about that until they become extremely successful and tell you about their struggle to be come successful.

Failure is expected in life. Life is unpredictable, school is not. Welcome to reality where nobody gives a sh*t about you except family (hopefully) and maybe a few friends. The consequences of your decisions are the ones you will have to live with until you die so keep that in mind going forward. They are what you will be judged on if anyone does get on their high horse and decode you need to be judged but really nobody cares which makes the lies and deceit absolutely pointless.

You're better than this. You know it too, so get over yourself and go be the best person to yourself you can be and stop being a narcissist.

Reply 7

Gosh, so many of these comments are horrible. I’m not able to offer any advice because I’ve not been through anything similar, but I’m sorry you’re going through this and hope things get better for you soon.
As noted the finance angle is a potential challenge, as you wouldn't be able to get full funding for a full time course. However, you could still get full funding for a part-time course if you've not yet earned a qualification from your current course.

I would recommend discussing withdrawal options with your personal tutor, and looking to see if you can get some kind of job for the time being. Taking a bit of time out from full time education before going back can be really helpful to both refocus your efforts so when you go back you're full commited to your studies, and also to allow you to decompress a bit from the pressure cooker of higher education and work on mental health with your GP :smile:

Then while working, explore what part-time course options there are for the subject of interest for you (English lit) that you meet the requirements for (for example I believe both Warwick and Bristol offer part-time English (lit) degrees - both also seem to have good support for mature students). The downside of being part-time is you will invariably need to work while studying, and finding work that you can balance around your lecture times can sometimes be tricky. But it is in principle possible!

By way of anecdote:

Spoiler


So don't lose heart too much :smile: but do recognise that things might play out a little differently due to the financial element and quite possibly needing to look at part-time courses.

Reply 9

Hi my dad got diagnosed with ADHD in his fifties and it was a revelation as he was never able to settle down in any career as he was constantly swapping what he did often impulsively and this led to no real success in anything. This is a classic ADHD trait. He eventually found his vocation in being a stay at home dad. When I mentioned your post he said to say that if you do have ADHD (which seems very possible) if you do not get help for it you will just continue in the same pattern for the rest of your life. ADHD is a neurological condition which means it’s not curable but it is manageable if you get help. There are also many benefits to having ADHD if you can manage it so please don’t despair. There are many successful people with ADHD but if you do not manage it and get to know it then it can ruin your life. If you do have it, you must address the ADHD first as a priority before anything else. It will not be easy but you must address it. If it is not ADHD then you must not carry on repeating the same pattern of swapping courses and discover what is going on as a matter of urgency before you embark on another course. As for your family that is something much more difficult to advise but in my dad’s case his family was quite toxic and he severed contact completely and this was best for him. He said to say this. “There are many people in the world who because of dysfunctional upbringings or mental health issues or conditions like ADHD really struggle to fit into so called normal society. But remember that there is no such thing as ‘normal’ and despite appearances many people underneath are insecure and vulnerable. Also be careful about who you talk to about this as you have seen from some of the replies that many people are extremely judgemental and without empathy simply because they have never faced any real difficulties, yet, or if they have it has made them cruel and bitter. So, make sure you get help only from people who want to help you not those who want to judge you.
Be careful also not to judge yourself too harshly as those with ADHD can also be very self punishing especially when the ADHD causes them to make repeated mistakes. Be kind to yourself as an absolute priority. Your bravery at talking about this openly shows that you have the strength to fight this and you must fight this every day and never give up. I know you can do it.

Reply 10

Original post by Anonymous
Hi my dad got diagnosed with ADHD in his fifties and it was a revelation as he was never able to settle down in any career as he was constantly swapping what he did often impulsively and this led to no real success in anything. This is a classic ADHD trait. He eventually found his vocation in being a stay at home dad. When I mentioned your post he said to say that if you do have ADHD (which seems very possible) if you do not get help for it you will just continue in the same pattern for the rest of your life. ADHD is a neurological condition which means it’s not curable but it is manageable if you get help. There are also many benefits to having ADHD if you can manage it so please don’t despair. There are many successful people with ADHD but if you do not manage it and get to know it then it can ruin your life. If you do have it, you must address the ADHD first as a priority before anything else. It will not be easy but you must address it. If it is not ADHD then you must not carry on repeating the same pattern of swapping courses and discover what is going on as a matter of urgency before you embark on another course. As for your family that is something much more difficult to advise but in my dad’s case his family was quite toxic and he severed contact completely and this was best for him. He said to say this. “There are many people in the world who because of dysfunctional upbringings or mental health issues or conditions like ADHD really struggle to fit into so called normal society. But remember that there is no such thing as ‘normal’ and despite appearances many people underneath are insecure and vulnerable. Also be careful about who you talk to about this as you have seen from some of the replies that many people are extremely judgemental and without empathy simply because they have never faced any real difficulties, yet, or if they have it has made them cruel and bitter. So, make sure you get help only from people who want to help you not those who want to judge you.
Be careful also not to judge yourself too harshly as those with ADHD can also be very self punishing especially when the ADHD causes them to make repeated mistakes. Be kind to yourself as an absolute priority. Your bravery at talking about this openly shows that you have the strength to fight this and you must fight this every day and never give up. I know you can do it.

Dont armchair diagnose, it is not helpful or appropriate.

Greg

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