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Original post by Wired_1800

It is incredible. Everyone that they disagree with is compared to Hitler.

I disagree with you but I haven't compared you to Hitler.

I see you have adopted the "big lie" principle as well.
I just told you why people compare Trump to Hitler - because of certain similarities in political operation. Not because they disagree with him.
Even his presidential running mate called him "America's Hitler". If his VP thinks Trump is like Hitler, who are you to disagree?
You didn't bother to read that article, did you? Here's another one...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/13/how-trumps-rhetoric-compares-hitlers/

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Original post by mqb2766

Looks like the republican vp (used to) agree with you
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/

I didn't say that I think he's like Hitler. I merely pointed out that there are people more knowledgable on the subject than myself and 1800 - academics and political journalists - who have made the comparison (as well as his own VP pick, as you pointed out).

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Original post by Driving_Mad

People’s opinions are allowed to change you know…

JD - "You're like Hitler, a danger to the country"
DJ - "I'll make you rich and powerful"
JD - "You have my full support!"
😂

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Driving_Mad

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It is convenient that the argument of many liberals for why Biden should be president is by criticising Trump and the opposition rather than stating the policies Biden plans to implement.

This is a common tactic by many liberals.

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Original post by 2WheelGod

I disagree with you but I haven't compared you to Hitler.
I see you have adopted the "big lie" principle as well.
I just told you why people compare Trump to Hitler - because of certain similarities in political operation. Not because they disagree with him.
Even his presidential running mate called him "America's Hitler". If his VP thinks Trump is like Hitler, who are you to disagree?
You didn't bother to read that article, did you? Here's another one...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/13/how-trumps-rhetoric-compares-hitlers/

It is silly to compare Adolf Hitler. His millennial VP pick is like everyone else.

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Original post by 2WheelGod

They both have dodgy haircuts.
They both packed the courts with with supporters to override the rule of law (eg. granting Trump immunity from prosecution and throwing out a legally sound case for no good reason).
The both use the "big lie" principle on an almost daily basis.
Both call political opponents "vermin".
Accusing certain ethnic groups of "poisoning the blood of our nation".
etc, etc
In fact, there are almost more similarities than differences.
Obviously he hasn't embarked on any programmes of mass extermination yet, but who can predict the future?

This is silly. Both Dems and Republicans pack the courts during their time in office. Biden forced a sitting USSC Justice to retire so he could nominate a younger Justice.

This nonsense “big lie” again.

Have you heard what Biden supporters call Trump supporters?

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Original post by Driving_Mad

It is convenient that the argument of many liberals for why Biden should be president is by criticising Trump and the opposition rather than stating the policies Biden plans to implement.
This is a common tactic by many liberals.

"Not Trump" is all that needs to be said about Biden, similar to how "Not The Tories" was all Labour needed to say.
But if you are not aware of the types of policy each candidate is proposing, than that's just down to you being ill-informed.

However, Biden should not be the Democratic candidate as he is too old.

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Original post by Wired_1800

It is silly to compare Adolf Hitler. His millennial VP pick is like everyone else.

So, as per with other discussions you have taken part i, you are not presenting any cogent counter argument. You are just repeatedly saying you disagree without giving any reason.

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Original post by Wired_1800

This is silly. Both Dems and Republicans pack the courts during their time in office. Biden forced a sitting USSC Justice to retire so he could nominate a younger Justice.
This nonsense “big lie” again.
Have you heard what Biden supporters call Trump supporters?

There has always been a balance. Plus, Democratic appointments do not flout legal consensus in favour of extreme partisan agendas, as we have seen Trump appointees doing.

"Big Lie" is not nonsense. Trump (and now other Republican politicians and media mouthpieces) continually repeat clear and blatant lies. This is an undeniable fact. Are you really claiming that the 2020 election was stolen?

I don't know, what do Biden supporters call Trump supporters?

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Original post by JVorJrose

2WheelGod is known to be some silly guy I can't lie man, don't waste your time on him my friend. I'm sure he's happy about what's been going on in Leeds, I'm afraid he has nothing to say for himself after he snitched and got me a yellow card for speaking facts🤦

It is incredible how he engages in discourse.

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Original post by 2WheelGod

There has always been a balance. Plus, Democratic appointments do not flout legal consensus in favour of extreme partisan agendas, as we have seen Trump appointees doing.
"Big Lie" is not nonsense. Trump (and now other Republican politicians and media mouthpieces) continually repeat clear and blatant lies. This is an undeniable fact. Are you really claiming that the 2020 election was stolen?
I don't know, what do Biden supporters call Trump supporters?

This is simply not true. You need to study the leaning of the USSC over the years based on the makeup of the Justices. It is now leaning conservative because of the number. You cannot try shout foul play when the Justices were selected by a democratically elected President.

The Big Lie is nonsense.

You seem to be informed, research what Trump supporters are called.

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Original post by 2WheelGod

So, as per with other discussions you have taken part i, you are not presenting any cogent counter argument. You are just repeatedly saying you disagree without giving any reason.

Cogent counter argument that President Trump is not Adolf Hitler? What is going on in this world? How tf can you compare Trump to one of the worst humans in history with one of the largest murder rates in history. It is silly.

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StriderHort

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Original post by JVorJrose

2WheelGod is known to be some silly guy I can't lie man, don't waste your time on him my friend. I'm sure he's happy about what's been going on in Leeds, I'm afraid he has nothing to say for himself after he snitched and got me a yellow card for speaking facts🤦

Yes, you accused me of the same and called me a snake in the grass if I recall.

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JVorJrose

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Original post by StriderHort

Yes, you accused me of the same and called me a snake in the grass if I recall.

Oh I did, apologies actually my bad😅 I don't believe it was you it was most definitely him still

(edited 2 months ago)

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Original post by Wired_1800

This is simply not true. You need to study the leaning of the USSC over the years based on the makeup of the Justices. It is now leaning conservative because of the number. You cannot try shout foul play when the Justices were selected by a democratically elected President.
The Big Lie is nonsense.
You seem to be informed, research what Trump supporters are called.

Quote me once instance where a Dem majority in SCOTUS has forced decisions that go against the acknowledged rule of law or established legal precedent.
Seriously, don't duck the issue like you normally do. Back up your claims with some evidence for a change.

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Original post by Wired_1800

Cogent counter argument that President Trump is not Adolf Hitler? What is going on in this world? How tf can you compare Trump to one of the worst humans in history with one of the largest murder rates in history. It is silly.

The usual straw man/evasion, I see.
No one has claimed that Trump "is Adolf Hitler". The argument is that they both employ similar political techniques and rhetoric (Big Lie, dehumanising opponents, using the courts to grant themselves excessive power/protection, accusing minorities of "poisoning the nation's blood, etc) . And as usual, you are unable to present a cogent counter argument (note - you are expected to address the actual argument that is being made, not some flimsy straw man of your own fabrication).

So, try again...

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grizzlyi

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x.com/HealthRanger/status/1813714482557853719

lets not forget that confirmed the shooter was in an ad for blackrock back in 2022

seems bit.. suspsect no?

FBI cannot be trusted, they're crooked

Need a complete clear out

They tried to kill him, and failed now don't know what to do.

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Original post by 2WheelGod

The usual straw man/evasion, I see.
No one has claimed that Trump "is Adolf Hitler". The argument is that they both employ similar political techniques and rhetoric (Big Lie, dehumanising opponents, using the courts to grant themselves excessive power/protection, accusing minorities of "poisoning the nation's blood, etc) . And as usual, you are unable to present a cogent counter argument (note - you are expected to address the actual argument that is being made, not some flimsy straw man of your own fabrication).
So, try again...

This is ridiculous.

the so-called Big Lie that Trump has been accused of is that the election was stolen. Hitler’s Big Lie was hatred of Jewish people and other minorities. Both different things.

Both political parties use dehumanising language and the Democrats have called Trump supporters fascists, bigots and unwanted.

Using the courts to grant themselves poor is silly. All parties have appointed judges. Trump was lucky to have 3 options. Yet you are annoyed that he had that chance. Did you want him to appoint left-leaning Justices to appease you?

This is not a strawman. You cannot compare a proven murderer to a man whose child and grandchildren are Jewish. It is so messed up.

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