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Predicted grades

Hello,
I m freaking out. I don't know why Maths has always been my weakness. But I worked hard and in GCSE I got 9 in all 3 subjects ( maths, biology and chemistry). But In my Yr12 predicted grades I have scored the following :
Biology -A, chemistry -A but maths is B. My teacher won't give me anymore higher. I need to apply for medicine.
I still have to write UCAT.
Please can someone advise
Thanks
(edited 11 months ago)

Reply 1

Original post by Stew22
Hello,
I m freaking out. I don't know why Maths has always been my weakness. But I worked hard and in GCSE I got 9 in all 3 subjects ( maths, biology and chemistry). But In my Yr12 predicted grades I have scored the following :
Biology -A, chemistry -A but maths is B. My teacher won't give me anymore higher. I need to apply for medicine.
I still have to write UCAT.
Please can someone advise
Thanks

Are you taking an EPQ? The University of Lancaster will offer AAB if an A is achieved at EPQ. Also check if you meet any contextual criteria as this will also mean you can get lower offers (i.e Bristol).
Also if you apply for Biomed at Exeter of Plymouth, you can transfer to the medical course after a year if you do exceptionally well.
You could also consider taking a gap year and taking your A levels first then applying with those rather than predicted grades!
Hope this helps - I believe in you! 😊🫶

Reply 2

Original post by Chloe_8206
Are you taking an EPQ? The University of Lancaster will offer AAB if an A is achieved at EPQ. Also check if you meet any contextual criteria as this will also mean you can get lower offers (i.e Bristol).
Also if you apply for Biomed at Exeter of Plymouth, you can transfer to the medical course after a year if you do exceptionally well.
You could also consider taking a gap year and taking your A levels first then applying with those rather than predicted grades!
Hope this helps - I believe in you! 😊🫶

Thanks for your advise. I don't want to go for a GAP year. But will look into the options you suggested. Cheers.

Reply 3

Oh and I forgot to mention that Plymouth uses a UCAS tariff system rather than set grades, so grades in music etc or EPQ or AS level can compensate 👍

Reply 4

Original post by Stew22
Hello,
I m freaking out. I don't know why Maths has always been my weakness. But I worked hard and in GCSE I got 9 in all 3 subjects ( maths, biology and chemistry). But In my Yr12 predicted grades I have scored the following :
Biology -A, chemistry -A but maths is B. My teacher won't give me anymore higher. I need to apply for medicine.
I still have to write UCAT.
Please can someone advise
Thanks

What are you losing marks on? Ask your teacher for aditional work and prove you deserve an A grade prediction.

Reply 5

Original post by Muttley79
What are you losing marks on? Ask your teacher for aditional work and prove you deserve an A grade prediction.

Na I have tried to convince them, but teachers won't budge. I m at a dead end now.

Reply 6

Original post by Stew22
Na I have tried to convince them, but teachers won't budge. I m at a dead end now.

They won;t be completing the UCAS form for months - I'm a teacher. There is time to change their minds but I'll only predict an A if all work is that standard so that's what you need to do.

Reply 7

There is time for this to change if you can evidence that you are working at that level. But you may need to ask for extra work. But to be fair to the teachers if a B is what you are realistically working at, it would be awful to get an offer at AAA and miss it on results day. It happens.

Irrespective of predicted grades you would need to work hard to get the final grade up.

However, for medicine a B in a predicted grade is not the end of the world, several med schools disregard predicted grades in their scoring mechanism anyway. Plus some med schools give flex in final offers to A*AB or AAB if A in an EPQ, or AAB or even ABB if contextual. The fact it’s not bio or chem helps.

It is really important for anyone to apply strategically for medicine, when you have your UCAT score look at the which medical school should I apply to Megathread. Put your details in as per the first page (it’s all relevant). State that your predicted are AAB (in Maths) if that is what they end up, but be honest with yourself. If you think there is a risk that your final Maths might be a B, then be honest. People then might be able to help you target your application further to those with those flexibilities.

It does hinge on your UCAT though as you would need to get it high enough to have a reasonable chance at those unis. So don’t worry about the pred. grade too much now, flag it to your teachers now before the end of term so they can give you extra work if you want, but otherwise give time to your UCAT as it’s more time restricted.

Lastly, if it came down to the wire and you got an offer at somewhere which accepted A*AB you may decide that pushing for an A* in something like Bio or Chem is more achievable than pushing for an A in Maths, but that is a tricky decision for down the line- so to keep options open you must continue striving for the highest grades possible in all subjects.

Good luck.

Reply 8

Original post by Muttley79
They won;t be completing the UCAS form for months - I'm a teacher. There is time to change their minds but I'll only predict an A if all work is that standard so that's what you need to do.
I asked them and they said I can get a B as the best and only if I get really high marks in the resit I can get A. I don't know, it's very dicy to change their mind. I even mentioned about my chem and biology grades but na it's not helping. This will effect my uni application only due to maths as all they see a predicted grades. Just checked I don't have any contextual criteria for university. So just for maths predicted grade I would need to take a gap year is making no sense. I will ace in yr13 . But predicted grade in maths is giving me sleepless nights.

Reply 9

Original post by George&Mary
There is time for this to change if you can evidence that you are working at that level. But you may need to ask for extra work. But to be fair to the teachers if a B is what you are realistically working at, it would be awful to get an offer at AAA and miss it on results day. It happens.
Irrespective of predicted grades you would need to work hard to get the final grade up.
However, for medicine a B in a predicted grade is not the end of the world, several med schools disregard predicted grades in their scoring mechanism anyway. Plus some med schools give flex in final offers to A*AB or AAB if A in an EPQ, or AAB or even ABB if contextual. The fact it’s not bio or chem helps.
It is really important for anyone to apply strategically for medicine, when you have your UCAT score look at the which medical school should I apply to Megathread. Put your details in as per the first page (it’s all relevant). State that your predicted are AAB (in Maths) if that is what they end up, but be honest with yourself. If you think there is a risk that your final Maths might be a B, then be honest. People then might be able to help you target your application further to those with those flexibilities.
It does hinge on your UCAT though as you would need to get it high enough to have a reasonable chance at those unis. So don’t worry about the pred. grade too much now, flag it to your teachers now before the end of term so they can give you extra work if you want, but otherwise give time to your UCAT as it’s more time restricted.
Lastly, if it came down to the wire and you got an offer at somewhere which accepted A*AB you may decide that pushing for an A* in something like Bio or Chem is more achievable than pushing for an A in Maths, but that is a tricky decision for down the line- so to keep options open you must continue striving for the highest grades possible in all subjects.
Good luck.

Thanks again. This strategically applying for university is another issue. Should I go through each university to know their entry requirements? I will try to get grades in UCAT and work hard YR 13. What is this about foundation medicine? Should we apply for this along with regular university applications in Oct or should we apply to them separately?

Reply 10

Original post by Stew22
Na I have tried to convince them, but teachers won't budge. I m at a dead end now.


Have you asked your head of Sixthform instead of your subject teacher?

Reply 11

Original post by Stew22
Thanks again. This strategically applying for university is another issue. Should I go through each university to know their entry requirements? I will try to get grades in UCAT and work hard YR 13. What is this about foundation medicine? Should we apply for this along with regular university applications in Oct or should we apply to them separately?

Do not think about any of this now. Other than asking for more work or pushing that resit you mentioned you need to put all else out of your mind and focus squarely on your UCAT and don’t forget your SJT, it’s easy to focus more on the numbers. It won’t be a great summer, but getting your UCAT up high and done will help strategically with everything else.

So out the rest of it to one side and plan and do UCAT now.

Reply 12

And yes, foundation medicine applications go in at the same time.
It’s not just for lower grades, it’s more widening participation so there may well be other factors which are important, which you may, or may not qualify for.

Don’t worry about the strategic application too much now. But if you wanted you could have a look at the which medical school Megathread and you can see how helpful and knowledgeAble people are. You don’t have to work out your strategy on your own. Yes, do some research, but although it’s your decision in the end, others can help you get the info to make it.

Lastly, the Megathread is over 6000 posts long. Look at the first one to see what info you will need to provide and then have a nosy. BUT the info in it now is for previous years, do NOT rely on it as application thresholds change each year. It will be accurate when you post for this year.

Good luck with UCAT. PS, I have seen having a high UCAT be a useful factor when discussing predicted grades with teachers.

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7312527


LATER it will be important to read the admissions policies very carefully, but for now this may help for an at a glance reading. It doesn’t necessarily show all the grade flexibilities or other important factors each uni considers, but for basic entry requirements it’s useful.

https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements

Dont let the maths issue throw you off course. Focus on what you need to do now.
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Reply 13

Original post by George&Mary
And yes, foundation medicine applications go in at the same time.
It’s not just for lower grades, it’s more widening participation so there may well be other factors which are important, which you may, or may not qualify for.
Don’t worry about the strategic application too much now. But if you wanted you could have a look at the which medical school Megathread and you can see how helpful and knowledgeAble people are. You don’t have to work out your strategy on your own. Yes, do some research, but although it’s your decision in the end, others can help you get the info to make it.
Lastly, the Megathread is over 6000 posts long. Look at the first one to see what info you will need to provide and then have a nosy. BUT the info in it now is for previous years, do NOT rely on it as application thresholds change each year. It will be accurate when you post for this year.
Good luck with UCAT. PS, I have seen having a high UCAT be a useful factor when discussing predicted grades with teachers.
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7312527
LATER it will be important to read the admissions policies very carefully, but for now this may help for an at a glance reading. It doesn’t necessarily show all the grade flexibilities or other important factors each uni considers, but for basic entry requirements it’s useful.
https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements
Dont let the maths issue throw you off course. Focus on what you need to do now.

Yes makes sense. I have Ucat in 3 weeks, will have to do well .Thanks again.

Reply 14

Original post by Stew22
Sorry to bother. But what's SJT?


Situational Judgement section of the UCAT

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