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Imperial/UCL/KCL med: is there a chance for me?

Stats:

GCSES 10 A*s (9999999988)
Predictions A*AA (bio, chem, maths respectively)
EPQ 50/50
Lots of supercurriculars and extracurriculars (Head girl, president of socs, debate awards)
Volunteering for over 2 years at 2 care homes (300+ hrs)
Lots of work experience reflection

Assuming I do well in my UCAT e.g 3000+ (I just did the Medentry diagnostic mock as my first attempt after a few days of UCAT revision and got 2720), is there still a chance?

I understand these three med schools are super competitive and most applicants will have most or all a* predictions.

Just worried my predicteds will put me at a disadvantage. I was on track for all A*s but due to personal reasons, I wasn't able to perform well in my Year 12 exams, getting an A* in bio and As in chem and maths. Many thanks for any help!!

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Original post by iamabcdefg
Stats:
GCSES 10 A*s (9999999988)
Predictions A*AA (bio, chem, maths respectively)
EPQ 50/50
Lots of supercurriculars and extracurriculars (Head girl, president of socs, debate awards)
Volunteering for over 2 years at 2 care homes (300+ hrs)
Lots of work experience reflection
Assuming I do well in my UCAT e.g 3000+ (I just did the Medentry diagnostic mock as my first attempt after a few days of UCAT revision and got 2720), is there still a chance?
I understand these three med schools are super competitive and most applicants will have most or all a* predictions.
Just worried my predicteds will put me at a disadvantage. I was on track for all A*s but due to personal reasons, I wasn't able to perform well in my Year 12 exams, getting an A* in bio and As in chem and maths. Many thanks for any help!!

You have some great statistics. But not the important one - UCAT - yet.

Don’t worry about, or fixate on, any medical school until you have that.
Doing this can sometimes really lead to disappointment if your UCAT score doesn’t end up being what you need it to be. Irrespective of your UCAT it’s really important to apply strategically.

WHEN you have your final score then post all your info in the “Which medical school Megathread” in the format of the first post and people will be able to sense check your strategic choices better then.
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Original post by George&Mary
You have some great statistics. But not the important one - UCAT - yet.
Don’t worry about, or fixate on, any medical school until you have that.
Doing this can sometimes really lead to disappointment if your UCAT score doesn’t end up being what you need it to be. Irrespective of your UCAT it’s really important to apply strategically.
WHEN you have your final score then post all your info in the “Which medical school Megathread” in the format of the first post and people will be able to sense check your strategic choices better then.

thanks sm!!
Although with your background it may be a moot point assuming you do well in the UCAT, for posterity I would again point out that different medical schools shortlist on different factors, and for example of those you listed, neither UCL nor Imperial shortlist using GCSEs (and so therefore GCSE grades confer no advantage or disadvantage for those medical schools at present).

However there may be something to be said for not applying to those and focusing more on GCSE heavy medical schools, as you can then leverage that strenght in your application (and it's also a "controlled" factor as they're achieved grades, unlike the UCAT which always has the possibility of going worse on the day)/

I would also not suggest limiting yourself geographically when applying to medical school, and focus on choosing medical schools based on their shortlisting methodologies and which you have the strongest profile for. Ultimately if your goal is to become a doctor, you should be aiming to get into medical school (anywhere) and applying strategically to those you have the best chance of getting an interview from.
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Original post by artful_lounger
Although with your background it may be a moot point assuming you do well in the UCAT, for posterity I would again point out that different medical schools shortlist on different factors, and for example of those you listed, neither UCL nor Imperial shortlist using GCSEs (and so therefore GCSE grades confer no advantage or disadvantage for those medical schools at present).
However there may be something to be said for not applying to those and focusing more on GCSE heavy medical schools, as you can then leverage that strenght in your application (and it's also a "controlled" factor as they're achieved grades, unlike the UCAT which always has the possibility of going worse on the day)/
I would also not suggest limiting yourself geographically when applying to medical school, and focus on choosing medical schools based on their shortlisting methodologies and which you have the strongest profile for. Ultimately if your goal is to become a doctor, you should be aiming to get into medical school (anywhere) and applying strategically to those you have the best chance of getting an interview from.

hi wdym by moot point?? as in like debatable??😭😭
Original post by iamabcdefg
hi wdym by moot point?? as in like debatable??😭😭


A point which is not relevant anymore.
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Original post by artful_lounger
A point which is not relevant anymore.

oh i see
Original post by iamabcdefg
Stats:
GCSES 10 A*s (9999999988)
Predictions A*AA (bio, chem, maths respectively)
EPQ 50/50
Lots of supercurriculars and extracurriculars (Head girl, president of socs, debate awards)
Volunteering for over 2 years at 2 care homes (300+ hrs)
Lots of work experience reflection
Assuming I do well in my UCAT e.g 3000+ (I just did the Medentry diagnostic mock as my first attempt after a few days of UCAT revision and got 2720), is there still a chance?
I understand these three med schools are super competitive and most applicants will have most or all a* predictions.
Just worried my predicteds will put me at a disadvantage. I was on track for all A*s but due to personal reasons, I wasn't able to perform well in my Year 12 exams, getting an A* in bio and As in chem and maths. Many thanks for any help!!
typical tsr post, you could even apply to Oxford with those stats
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Original post by AnonymousShark07
typical tsr post, you could even apply to Oxford with those stats

i could apply but would i get a decent chance / interview?? not really... most applicants have most, if not, all a*s. unless u are contextual (which i am not), then i think a*aa would be okay. however, my predicteds arent competitive enough for oxbridge, which is where i initally wanted to apply, so ive given up on that thought and have decided to aim for imperial/kcl/ucl for my highest.
Reply 9
Original post by AnonymousShark07
typical tsr post, you could even apply to Oxford with those stats

Nobody can say where they should apply without a valid UCAT score, but Cambridge are out as they require at least A*A*A predictions. Also out would be Edinburgh and Exeter, so not quite anywhere, though stats to date do not rule out many places.
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Original post by iamabcdefg
i could apply but would i get a decent chance / interview?? not really... most applicants have most, if not, all a*s. unless u are contextual (which i am not), then i think a*aa would be okay. however, my predicteds arent competitive enough for oxbridge, which is where i initally wanted to apply, so ive given up on that thought and have decided to aim for imperial/kcl/ucl for my highest.

Cambridge is out, as they require A*A*A predictions, but with a good UCAT, Oxford would be fine as they do not look at predicted A levels at all and offers wil be A*AA.
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Original post by GANFYD
Cambridge is out, as they require A*A*A predictions, but with a good UCAT, Oxford would be fine as they do not look at predicted A levels at all and offers wil be A*AA.

what would you say would be a good ucat competitive enough for oxford/other top med schools?? 3100+?? 3200+??
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Original post by iamabcdefg
what would you say would be a good ucat competitive enough for oxford/other top med schools?? 3100+?? 3200+??

There are no "top med schools" for Drs in the UK, all are treated equally when it comes to working after qualification.

Nobody knows what is going to be needed, but I would think at least 2900-3000+ is likely to be the figure for Imperial, UCL, Oxbridge. I think many more people will apply to these now they will have a UCAT score before application, rather than applying blind with BMAT, plus there were people with good UCATs who did not bother with BMAT before, but now may apply
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Original post by iamabcdefg
Stats:
GCSES 10 A*s (9999999988)
Predictions A*AA (bio, chem, maths respectively)
EPQ 50/50
Lots of supercurriculars and extracurriculars (Head girl, president of socs, debate awards)
Volunteering for over 2 years at 2 care homes (300+ hrs)
Lots of work experience reflection
Assuming I do well in my UCAT e.g 3000+ (I just did the Medentry diagnostic mock as my first attempt after a few days of UCAT revision and got 2720), is there still a chance?
I understand these three med schools are super competitive and most applicants will have most or all a* predictions.
Just worried my predicteds will put me at a disadvantage. I was on track for all A*s but due to personal reasons, I wasn't able to perform well in my Year 12 exams, getting an A* in bio and As in chem and maths. Many thanks for any help!!


you sound like a TSR warrior. Defo done this for an ego boost😭
Original post by GANFYD
There are no "top med schools" for Drs in the UK, all are treated equally when it comes to working after qualification.
Nobody knows what is going to be needed, but I would think at least 2900-3000+ is likely to be the figure for Imperial, UCL, Oxbridge. I think many more people will apply to these now they will have a UCAT score before application, rather than applying blind with BMAT, plus there were people with good UCATs who did not bother with BMAT before, but now may apply

absolutely this
many current students who got into medicine at Ox and Cam with good, but not outstanding, BMATs would not have got even an interview with their achieved UCAT scores had everyone been using the latter test
ie., as they will from this year onwards

having the same admissions test should help to level the playing field a little more in terms of Oxbridge medicine admissions, hopefully
hi as someone who just did their a levels I can tell you that the UCAT isn’t the major deciding factor. however yes ofc most unis do weight UCAT more and I get that BUT I had two classmates with UCAT scores of 3000+ (3070 and 3120) which is pretty high and similar GCSE’s.they didn’t get into imperial or Cambridge and all I’m gonna say is that don’t worry about the UCAT. Definitely make sure it’s higher but focus on what you have. Your GCSE’s are really strong and another thing is bring those A’s up and get three A*s as predicted. That’ll push you in a good position than the rest of the candidates. Remember it’s a competition so yeah do everything you can to ensure you get a place. You’ve got this and the best of luck ❤️
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Original post by lacouile
hi as someone who just did their a levels I can tell you that the UCAT isn’t the major deciding factor. however yes ofc most unis do weight UCAT more and I get that BUT I had two classmates with UCAT scores of 3000+ (3070 and 3120) which is pretty high and similar GCSE’s.they didn’t get into imperial or Cambridge and all I’m gonna say is that don’t worry about the UCAT. Definitely make sure it’s higher but focus on what you have. Your GCSE’s are really strong and another thing is bring those A’s up and get three A*s as predicted. That’ll push you in a good position than the rest of the candidates. Remember it’s a competition so yeah do everything you can to ensure you get a place. You’ve got this and the best of luck ❤️

For many med schools, UCAT is the major factor in deciding whether you get an interview. Offers then usually depend on interview performance.
Very few med schools use predicted A levels to shortlist and for most, they are just used as a minimum requirement, if at all, so for most med schools, A*A*A* will not be looked at any differently to A*AA
Original post by GANFYD
For many med schools, UCAT is the major factor in deciding whether you get an interview. Offers then usually depend on interview performance.
Very few med schools use predicted A levels to shortlist and for most, they are just used as a minimum requirement, if at all, so for most med schools, A*A*A* will not be looked at any differently to A*AA


lol yeah that’s what I said. But it’s absolutely not the be it or end all ONLY if your below 2700. If your above that threshold when looking at the cutoffs for many unis. Last year the lowest score accepted for interview was 2670. Despite that apply strategically if your ucat is low. Z
Original post by iamabcdefg
Stats:
GCSES 10 A*s (9999999988)
Predictions A*AA (bio, chem, maths respectively)
EPQ 50/50
Lots of supercurriculars and extracurriculars (Head girl, president of socs, debate awards)
Volunteering for over 2 years at 2 care homes (300+ hrs)
Lots of work experience reflection
Assuming I do well in my UCAT e.g 3000+ (I just did the Medentry diagnostic mock as my first attempt after a few days of UCAT revision and got 2720), is there still a chance?
I understand these three med schools are super competitive and most applicants will have most or all a* predictions.
Just worried my predicteds will put me at a disadvantage. I was on track for all A*s but due to personal reasons, I wasn't able to perform well in my Year 12 exams, getting an A* in bio and As in chem and maths. Many thanks for any help!!

Neither imperial nor UCL use gcse for selection process. From what I know, You have a good chance at KCL and Imperial I think (if u get 3000+ on ur ucat)
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Original post by Jasmine6789
Neither imperial nor UCL use gcse for selection process. From what I know, You have a good chance at KCL and Imperial I think (if u get 3000+ on ur ucat)

thanks sm!! what about ucl, are they more holistic??

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