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Should there be world prime minister who will run world government???

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Original post by Admit-One
Strange, Wired said it was out of context but the entire transcript portrays him in an even worse light. Still, Wired is a big Andrew Tate fan so I'm sure they'll explain how this is a perfectly normal way to talk about women.
Wired, could you explain under what context you enjoy the phrase "I moved on her like a b*tch"?
As a multiple cat owner myself, I agree!

They were poor choice of words but that was in 2005 and we need to appreciate that society has evolved since then. I have watched the full clip several times and I could not find any malice towards women. The President likes attractive women like most men, nothing new there.
Original post by Wired_1800
They were poor choice of words but that was in 2005 and we need to appreciate that society has evolved since then. I have watched the full clip several times and I could not find any malice towards women. The President likes attractive women like most men, nothing new there.

@Admit-One I didn't listen to the transcript. Can you please quote in full any phrases or sentences in that transcript where Trump was mysogynistic ?
Original post by Driving_Mad
@Admit-One I didn't listen to the transcript. Can you please quote in full any phrases or sentences in that transcript where Trump was mysogynistic ?


It's a transcript. You don't listen to it by virtue of the fact it's a transcript.

And no, I can't.
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Original post by Admit-One
It's a transcript. You don't listen to it by virtue of the fact it's a transcript.
And no, I can't.

For some reason, quite a few places have created lists of his "comments" about/to women
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-worst-offensive-comments-quotes/
Original post by Admit-One
It's a transcript. You don't listen to it by virtue of the fact it's a transcript.
And no, I can't.

Okay I should have said read.

Either way, you have claimed that Trump made malicious comments regarding women in the transcript, but refute to quote any examples of this from the transcript. Considering this was almost 20 years ago, I'm not sure why you care so much either way.
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Original post by Wired_1800
Yes, we do need fewer things, but whose going to be the person to start the movement? Would you and your family kickstart the trend and get rid of your stuff? I have had this discussion with people IRL and many don't seem to want to be the ones to take the hit.
President Trump has respect for women. It is the lying media that has created a wicked narrative that he hates women which is not true.
I disagree with your last point but the abortion debate is a never-ending one. So i will leave it there

Already doing it.Buying less clothes or buying second hand.Not having a car.I admit it helps to live in London I still have a front garden instead of paving it over for a drive I have grass and pollinator friendly plants.Grow some of my own fruit and veg.Do not replace things until to they break or worn out .
Original post by mqb2766
For some reason, quite a few places have created lists of his "comments" about/to women
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-worst-offensive-comments-quotes/

Not sure how this conversation has segmented to Trump. Not everyone is perfect. Haven't read them all, but the article is full of BS.

1980s was 40 years ago.

1990 what's the big deal?

1991 so what?

2004 what's wrong with that?

2006 poor joke.

October 2020 what's wrong with calling someone a monster?

When you are one of the most influential men in American history, all your words will be analysed and anything will be framed to make you look bad.

@Wired_1800
Original post by Driving_Mad
Okay I should have said read.

Apology accepted.
Original post by Driving_Mad
Either way, you have claimed that Trump made malicious comments regarding women in the transcript, but refute to quote any examples of this from the transcript.

I presume you mean refuse rather than refute.

It's a very short transcript and littered with examples. Not sure a summary is necessary, as it would literally be the whole transcript verbatim.
Original post by Driving_Mad
Considering this was almost 20 years ago, I'm not sure why you care so much either way.

It's a joke thread about a world PM. Given that roughly half the world's population is female, it seems that Trump's documented attitudes to women might be relevant when considering a candidate. Please note that I did not link to the transcript in order to support my case.
Original post by Admit-One
Apology accepted.
I presume you mean refuse rather than refute.
It's a very short transcript and littered with examples. Not sure a summary is necessary, as it would literally be the whole transcript verbatim.
It's a joke thread about a world PM. Given that roughly half the world's population is female, it seems that Trump's documented attitudes to women might be relevant when considering a candidate. Please note that I did not link to the transcript in order to support my case.

I'd argue that the policies stated by both candidates and their projected abilities to deliver these are more important than comments made decades ago.
Original post by Driving_Mad
I'd argue that the policies stated by both candidates and their projected abilities to deliver these are more important than comments made decades ago.

Not comments. His attitudes.

In either case Trump is a crap candidate based on his policies and ability to deliver on them too.

But as above, you think Trump is a digression here.
Original post by Scotney
Already doing it.Buying less clothes or buying second hand.Not having a car.I admit it helps to live in London I still have a front garden instead of paving it over for a drive I have grass and pollinator friendly plants.Grow some of my own fruit and veg.Do not replace things until to they break or worn out .

You are very lucky to lead such an excellent life. Many people don't have the resources or access to do so.
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Original post by Driving_Mad
Not sure how this conversation has segmented to Trump. Not everyone is perfect. Haven't read them all, but the article is full of BS.
1980s was 40 years ago.
1990 what's the big deal?
1991 so what?
2004 what's wrong with that?
2006 poor joke.
October 2020 what's wrong with calling someone a monster?
When you are one of the most influential men in American history, all your words will be analysed and anything will be framed to make you look bad.
@Wired_1800

As they "start" 30 years ago, its shows a fairly clear pattern of sexism as the article/tracker documents. Theres other similar ones in time and ... so its publications with no particular political axe to grind. If you want to discuss specific ones (poor joke or choice of words or it didnt happen or ...), its probably worth digging into them a bit more first. But scotneys comment that "trump has no respect for women personally or politically so why would I find him an attractive prospect as a leader." seems the obvious explanation.
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Reply 52
This might be slightly off topic, but I'd be interested in hearing how some of the Trump supporters on here feel about Kamala Harris going against Trump. Considering how defensive some people have been over Trump's very obviously disrespectful comments towards women, I'm wondering how they would feel if Harris were to potentially win the election. Personally, while I think some of her opinions and attitudes towards tackling crime are questionable, I think she's a far better candidate than Biden and has a better chance at beating Trump in the election than Biden did, due to an increase in youth support and likely an increase in youth turnout this year.

In regard to the original question OP, no, there should not be a world prime minister or a world government. It's one thing to have different political parties with different ideological beliefs operating in a singular country, but it's another to apply this to the world. I doubt a world government would even be able to pass any legislation or make any policies. You have to acknowledge how many countries in the world are in conflict with each other. Having a world prime minister could very well lead to anarchy in certain regions.
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Original post by bibachu
This might be slightly off topic, but I'd be interested in hearing how some of the Trump supporters on here feel about Kamala Harris going against Trump. Considering how defensive some people have been over Trump's very obviously disrespectful comments towards women, I'm wondering how they would feel if Harris were to potentially win the election. Personally, while I think some of her opinions and attitudes towards tackling crime are questionable, I think she's a far better candidate than Biden and has a better chance at beating Trump in the election than Biden did, due to an increase in youth support and likely an increase in youth turnout this year.
In regard to the original question OP, no, there should not be a world prime minister or a world government. It's one thing to have different political parties with different ideological beliefs operating in a singular country, but it's another to apply this to the world. I doubt a world government would even be able to pass any legislation or make any policies. You have to acknowledge how many countries in the world are in conflict with each other. Having a world prime minister could very well lead to anarchy in certain regions.

I have heard that the Democrats had done some studies and found that the candidates with the clearest chances of beating Trump were Michelle Obama and Gavin Newsom. Newsom’s popularity has since diminished due to the post-pandemic impact in California. There are other issues around safety, security, cost of living and other problems in the State that makes his case to be difficult to defend.

As for Harris vs Trump, she is a better candidate but her problems range from her time as AG in California which was mired by controversies such as an increase in incarceration rates esp within the black community and her time as VP where she allegedly was not very popular due to staff leaving her office.

A recent attack line from the Republicans is that she is continuity Biden. So voters’ problems with Biden should be shared by her.

A political commentator on the BBC mentioned that the view that female voters would suddenly rally around her should not be taken for granted. Trump was Trump in 2016 and 2020 but still received healthy turnouts from female voters. The big change now is the pro-abortion voting bloc.
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Didn't the Romans already try this with their Roman Empire across the globe? Such a move wouldn't even last a few years before continents and countries break away and declare independence.
Original post by Physician
Didn't the Romans already try this with their Roman Empire across the globe? Such a move wouldn't even last a few years before continents and countries break away and declare independence.

A strong President like Trump or Putin wont tolerate such treason.
Original post by Wired_1800
A strong President like Trump or Putin wont tolerate such treason.

They might try to rein in countries with military action, like the Soviet Union did in the 1960s, but they can't have a civil war with half of the World. Humanity would become like a Mad Max desert and wasteland, with nomads travelling on half broken cars and bikes.
Original post by Physician
They might try to rein in countries with military action, like the Soviet Union did in the 1960s, but they can't have a civil war with half of the World. Humanity would become like a Mad Max desert and wasteland, with nomads travelling on half broken cars and bikes.

It would be difficult to separate as there would be no other to go against. Take England, for example, it would be very difficult for Leicester to want to become independent.
I don't think there should be one world prime minister or government.

As it stands, people have a lot of choice of how they want to live life. If you want to live in a rich, capitalist country, you can move to the USA. If you want somewhere with extremely low taxes, move to the Cayman Islands. If you want to live in an Islamic theocracy, move to Iran etc. If there were just one government deciding everything, you'd lose the diversity of different types of countries legal, economic and social systems that are available for you to live in.

Plus it would make the world less prosperous as a whole, because we'd lose a great deal of economic competition between countries, industry specialisation etc.
Original post by Driving_Mad
Okay I should have said read.
Either way, you have claimed that Trump made malicious comments regarding women in the transcript, but refute to quote any examples of this from the transcript. Considering this was almost 20 years ago, I'm not sure why you care so much either way.

Look - Trump has been married multiple times, has cheated on his wife in every case, and has said some pretty bad things.

(Complete this sentence: "Just grab them by the -")

You like Trump. Fine. Bill Clinton was pretty misogynistic, too, and people loved him. But this is a really weird hill to die on, trying to say Trump isn't a misogynist. Just say 'I think he'll be better for society than Harris because of X, Y, and Z'.

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