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engineering without further maths alevel?

having just finished my gcses, i've recently put down my alevel options as:
physics, maths, chemistry and french.
i'm pretty set on all of these but in the future i think i want to go into engineering at a good uni (got my eyes on bristol/bath etc). barely any unis specify that they need further maths, only a few explicitly say that they even prefer it.
but would i be disadvantaged without it? i assume they would look at applicants with it more positively than those without. i don't think i'd do well at it, i wouldn't enjoy it and i think it would make my other grades worse. i do not want to take it at all!!! help!
Original post by beaaa171
having just finished my gcses, i've recently put down my alevel options as:
physics, maths, chemistry and french.
i'm pretty set on all of these but in the future i think i want to go into engineering at a good uni (got my eyes on bristol/bath etc). barely any unis specify that they need further maths, only a few explicitly say that they even prefer it.
but would i be disadvantaged without it? i assume they would look at applicants with it more positively than those without. i don't think i'd do well at it, i wouldn't enjoy it and i think it would make my other grades worse. i do not want to take it at all!!! help!

If they required FM they would state that. If they preferred FM they would state that. It's not in their interest to have 'secret' requirements or preferences.
You can double check with the universities. And I guess, it probably never hurts to explain your choice in the statement. And personally, I think it is a good idea to perfect a language, when you know it won't be part of your studies afterwards. Can come in handy for exchange years or working in multinational corporations or small businesses with French clients. Helps so much to have a certain feeling for other cultures.

At the end, you need good grades. So take the combination you like. French is not exactly and easy subject, so it shows that you can learn.
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Original post by Nathanielle_
You can double check with the universities. And I guess, it probably never hurts to explain your choice in the statement. And personally, I think it is a good idea to perfect a language, when you know it won't be part of your studies afterwards. Can come in handy for exchange years or working in multinational corporations or small businesses with French clients. Helps so much to have a certain feeling for other cultures.
At the end, you need good grades. So take the combination you like. French is not exactly and easy subject, so it shows that you can learn.

this is good to know, thank you :smile:
Original post by beaaa171
having just finished my gcses, i've recently put down my alevel options as:
physics, maths, chemistry and french.
i'm pretty set on all of these but in the future i think i want to go into engineering at a good uni (got my eyes on bristol/bath etc). barely any unis specify that they need further maths, only a few explicitly say that they even prefer it.
but would i be disadvantaged without it? i assume they would look at applicants with it more positively than those without. i don't think i'd do well at it, i wouldn't enjoy it and i think it would make my other grades worse. i do not want to take it at all!!! help!

hey! i was the same as you last year as I did maths, physics and french ( and geography for year 12) for uni i applied for aerospace engineering and got into all russell groups (including bristol) without having done further maths, and thats the same for all types of engineering. the only subjects you need are maths and physics (sometimes chemistry instead of physics) hope that helps!
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Original post by gemmaread22
hey! i was the same as you last year as I did maths, physics and french ( and geography for year 12) for uni i applied for aerospace engineering and got into all russell groups (including bristol) without having done further maths, and thats the same for all types of engineering. the only subjects you need are maths and physics (sometimes chemistry instead of physics) hope that helps!

oh my god thanks so much that’s so good to hear!!!! can i ask what you did to put on your personal statement, ie supercurriculars or work experience etc?
Original post by beaaa171
oh my god thanks so much that’s so good to hear!!!! can i ask what you did to put on your personal statement, ie supercurriculars or work experience etc?

yeah, so i'd probably say i did quite a lot haha, i did this programme called pathways to engineering at cardiff uni (its done by the sutton trust and they do it at warwick, cardiff and liverpool so see if you can apply for it if any of those places are near you) and through that did a virtual work experience with Thales. I also did access to bristol which is like a programme where you go every week for lectures for 6 weeks but i did that for modern languages not engineering. that programme is really good because it gives you a conditional offer to that uni, so see if any uni within an hour of you does it. In year 12 I also helped during year 8 maths lessons. Also, in year 13 I was the head of the RAG (raising and giving committee) at my school so did fundraisers and things like that. I also wrote about my part time job but that's not as relevant but if you do it's good to mention because you can write about working in a team and stuff like that. Overall, the most important stuff I think is some kind of engineering work experience, volunteering for your school in some way, and if possible, apply for one of the programmes i mentioned :smile:
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Original post by beaaa171
having just finished my gcses, i've recently put down my alevel options as:
physics, maths, chemistry and french.
i'm pretty set on all of these but in the future i think i want to go into engineering at a good uni (got my eyes on bristol/bath etc). barely any unis specify that they need further maths, only a few explicitly say that they even prefer it.
but would i be disadvantaged without it? i assume they would look at applicants with it more positively than those without. i don't think i'd do well at it, i wouldn't enjoy it and i think it would make my other grades worse. i do not want to take it at all!!! help!

Bath is far better than Bristol because of its placement programme.

Also do look at places like Loughborough and Brookes - many non-RG offer a better course these days.
Original post by Muttley79
Bath is far better than Bristol because of its placement programme.
Also do look at places like Loughborough and Brookes - many non-RG offer a better course these days.

I'm confused, bristol have a year in industry too for mech eng. https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2025/mechanical-engineering/meng-mechanical-engineering-with-a-year-in-industry/#:~:text=This%20five%2Dyear%20course%20is,society%20across%20the%2021st%20century.

Yes but Bath's placement is far better for the quality of the places they offer. Bristol also has HUGE accommodation issues. Brrokes and Bath also do well at Formua Student: https://imeche.org/events/formula-student/previous-events

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