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[Official] Riots in streets across the UK, after 3 children die in Southport stabbing

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Original post by Jebedee
There doesn't appear to be any verified link between this and the EDL. Seems like an attempt to smear rightfully angry citizens as a mindless hate mob.

I can only assume you're just trying to wind people up now with such naked bias, the 'rightfully angry citizens' stoning the police trying to keep order? aye right, disgraceful to be a supporter of this behaviour.
Original post by Jebedee
There doesn't appear to be any verified link between this and the EDL. Seems like an attempt to smear rightfully angry citizens as a mindless hate mob.

Attacking police, setting fire to police vehicles and throwing bricks is what an angry mindless mob does.

Stop being an apologist for criminal behaviour.
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Original post by StriderHort
I can only assume you're just trying to wind people up now with such naked bias, the 'rightfully angry citizens' stoning the police trying to keep order? aye right, disgraceful to be a supporter of this behaviour.

There hasn't been any legal route to address issues to problems in the community. So where do you suggest they should direct their anger? Write a strongly worded letter to their local MP?

The government have been complicit in these kinds of attacks and by allowing the media to lie and hide the identity of certain criminals who don't fit the narrative.

I don't support these riots but they shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Original post by Jebedee
There hasn't been any legal route to address issues to problems in the community. So where do you suggest they should direct their anger? Write a strongly worded letter to their local MP?

The government have been complicit in these kinds of attacks and by allowing the media to lie and hide the identity of certain criminals who don't fit the narrative.

I don't support these riots but they shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

Could you explain why these citizens should be "rightfully angry" (your words) against the police force in Southport in connection with this event?
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Original post by 04MR17
Could you explain why these citizens should be "rightfully angry" (your words) against the police force in Southport in connection with this event?

They are upholding and representing the same establishment that have a hand in these awful crimes. It isn't specifically about the Southport police force.
It's looking more and more like the rioters fell hook, line and sinker for some nonsense on social media, rocked up on a train boozed out of their minds and then proceeded to vandalise a community they were professing to defend.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/31/southport-mp-condemns-rioters-as-victims-mother-calls-for-calm

I don't know what's funnier, how thick the whole bunch are or the video of the guy getting a brick to the nuts from his associates.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/31/zero-sympathy-southport-rioter-bricked-head-chest-privates-21332623/?ico=trending-module_category_news_item-0

NB. As they cared so much, I'm sure the dense brigade stopped to help with the clear up. No? Oh. Guess they're just utter scumbags.
Original post by Jebedee
There doesn't appear to be any verified link between this and the EDL. Seems like an attempt to smear rightfully angry citizens as a mindless hate mob.

A mob of violent, stupid, white English people, motivated my deliberate misinformation on right-wing SM, chanting nationalist slogans against perceived "dangerous brown foreigners" who are completely unconnected to events?
Yeah, clearly the EDL (or similar) can't have been involved. 🙄
Original post by Jebedee
They are upholding and representing the same establishment that have a hand in these awful crimes. It isn't specifically about the Southport police force.

What "establishment have a hand in" the killings?
Please be specific.
Original post by 2WheelGod
Yeah, clearly the EDL (or similar) can't have been involved. 🙄


Multiple time convicted felon Yaxley-Lennon has said that he has fostered a "new cultural movement" to replace the EDL. So there is clearly no link between the old thugs and these new ones, (nudge-nudge, wink-wink).
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Original post by 2WheelGod
A mob of violent, stupid, white English people, motivated my deliberate misinformation on right-wing SM, chanting nationalist slogans against perceived "dangerous brown foreigners" who are completely unconnected to events?
Yeah, clearly the EDL (or similar) can't have been involved. 🙄

Which misinformation are you referring to exactly?

Are violence and stupidity limited to the EDL when the perpetrators are white?
Original post by 04MR17
Could you explain why these citizens should be "rightfully angry" (your words) against the police force in Southport in connection with this event?

They failed to prevent 3 children from being killed. There are steps that could and should have been taken. I mean are you telling me the accused just picked up a knife one day and decided to go on a spree?

Crimes like this is why they need to bring back hanging.
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Original post by Guru Jason
They failed to prevent 3 children from being killed. There are steps that could and should have been taken. I mean are you telling me the accused just picked up a knife one day and decided to go on a spree?
Crimes like this is why they need to bring back hanging.

What specific steps could have been taken to prevent this crime?
Original post by Gazpacho.
What specific steps could have been taken to prevent this crime?

For starters more police in the streets. Secondly harsher sentencs for knife crimes. Thirdly, greater stop and search powers for police. And if it turns out the perpetrator was known to the police, closer monitoring for them. This is off of the top of my head without even thinking that much.

There are lots of things we could do but we as a country do **** all then complain when this keeps happening. It's like America with their gun problem. We just shrug it off and go next. It's a joke.
Original post by Guru Jason
For starters more police in the streets. Secondly harsher sentencs for knife crimes. Thirdly, greater stop and search powers for police. And if it turns out the perpetrator was known to the police, closer monitoring for them. This is off of the top of my head without even thinking that much.
There are lots of things we could do but we as a country do **** all then complain when this keeps happening. It's like America with their gun problem. We just shrug it off and go next. It's a joke.

Aside from the police having some existing intelligence and not acting on it, none of these suggestions would have prevented this event.
Original post by Gazpacho.
Aside from the police having some existing intelligence and not acting on it, none of these suggestions would have prevented this event.

I disagree
Original post by Guru Jason
I disagree

Do explain how likely a random stop and search would have picked this guy up. Or how a harsher sentence would have discouraged him.
Original post by Gazpacho.
Do explain how likely a random stop and search would have picked this guy up. Or how a harsher sentence would have discouraged him.

If he'd have been stopped and searched then they would have caught him with the knife before he got to the school.
Original post by Guru Jason
If he'd have been stopped and searched then they would have caught him with the knife before he got to the school.

The probably of him being randomly stopped and searched on a residential street at 11 in the morning is so low that is not a realistic preventative strategy.

You really are desperately clutching at straws here.
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Original post by Gazpacho.
The probably of him being randomly stopped and searched on a residential street at 11 in the morning is so low that is not a realistic preventative strategy.
You really are desperately clutching at straws here.

The more pertinent issue here is was the assailant under investigation prior to the killings? If so, why wasn't he stopped before.
Original post by Barbu
The more pertinent issue here is was the assailant under investigation prior to the killings? If so, why wasn't he stopped before.

At this moment in time, we have no idea so speculation and trying to attribute blame in the absence of any actual knowledge is utterly useless.

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