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(Applying to BSC CS in ICL, UCL or Edinburgh as an international) 3 A levels with FM?

I'll need to have the final decision of the combination of international a levels I'd like to take before October. As an international student, I'd like to aim for UCL, ICL or Edinburgh for BSC CS and I currently have decided I"ll do maths, further maths and physics as 3 subject choices. However, I do now know if having maths and further maths and only taking 3 a levels is allowed in those 3 universities for CS. Can someone tell me whether is combination is valid or recommended to apply to those 3 unis?

If you guys have links of those universities clearly stating whether it's allowed or recommended please leave it in the comments also thank you! :smile:
Original post by Ben123123123
I'll need to have the final decision of the combination of international a levels I'd like to take before October. As an international student, I'd like to aim for UCL, ICL or Edinburgh for BSC CS and I currently have decided I"ll do maths, further maths and physics as 3 subject choices. However, I do now know if having maths and further maths and only taking 3 a levels is allowed in those 3 universities for CS. Can someone tell me whether is combination is valid or recommended to apply to those 3 unis?
If you guys have links of those universities clearly stating whether it's allowed or recommended please leave it in the comments also thank you! :smile:

Imperial College:
At Imperial, there's no exact course for CS, but there are those for computing (BEng or MEng). Their entry requirements are:
A*A*A A*AAA
To include:

A* in Mathematics

A*, A in two further subjects or AAA in three further subjects, with Further Mathematics preferred.

Not accepted: ICT, Business Studies, General Studies and Critical Thinking Science Practical Endorsement: If you are made an offer you will be required to achieve a pass in the practical endorsement in all science subjects that form part of the offer.
Recommended subjects

Computer Science

Physics

Further Mathematics

Useful subjects

Ancient Language, Biology, Chemistry, Economics, Electronics, English Literature, History, Languages, Law, Philosophy, Politics, Psychology

See: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/courses/undergraduate/computing-beng/
The entry requirements for similar computing degrees would be similar to the above (I would let you to look them up yourself).

Edinburgh:
The standard entry requirement is:

SQA Highers: AAAAA (achievement by end of S5 preferred). BBB must be achieved in one year of S4-S6.

A Levels: A*A*A* - AAB in one set of exams.

IB: 43 points with 777 at HL - 34 points with 665 at HL.

....
The grades used to meet our entry requirements must include:

SQA: Highers: Mathematics at A. Higher Applications of Mathematics is not accepted in place of Higher Mathematics. Advanced Higher Mathematics is recommended. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. National 5s: English at C.

A Levels: Mathematics at A. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. GCSEs: English at C or 4.

IB: HL: Mathematics (Analysis and approaches only) at 6. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. SL: English at 5.

See: https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=G401
I would leave you to look up the other variations of CS degrees at the uni.

UCL:
Grades
A*A*A
Subjects
A* in either Mathematics or Further Mathematics required.
GCSEs
English Language and Mathematics at grade C or 4.
See: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/computer-science-bsc
I would leave you to look up the entry requirements for the MEng degree.

At the very least, Further Maths is recommended for ICL and UCL. For Edinburgh, it does not explicitly state that they would not reject it, but at the same time there is nothing to say that they won't consider it as a suitable 3rd A Level subject. To me, FM would be fine for the CS degree at Edinburgh.

If you want written confirmation from Edinburgh, consider submitting your query on the following page:
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/contacts

Reply 2

Original post by MindMax2000
Imperial College:
At Imperial, there's no exact course for CS, but there are those for computing (BEng or MEng). Their entry requirements are:
A*A*A A*AAA
To include:

A* in Mathematics

A*, A in two further subjects or AAA in three further subjects, with Further Mathematics preferred.

Not accepted: ICT, Business Studies, General Studies and Critical Thinking Science Practical Endorsement: If you are made an offer you will be required to achieve a pass in the practical endorsement in all science subjects that form part of the offer.
Recommended subjects

Computer Science

Physics

Further Mathematics

Useful subjects

Ancient Language, Biology, Chemistry, Economics, Electronics, English Literature, History, Languages, Law, Philosophy, Politics, Psychology

See: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/courses/undergraduate/computing-beng/
The entry requirements for similar computing degrees would be similar to the above (I would let you to look them up yourself).
Edinburgh:
The standard entry requirement is:

SQA Highers: AAAAA (achievement by end of S5 preferred). BBB must be achieved in one year of S4-S6.

A Levels: A*A*A* - AAB in one set of exams.

IB: 43 points with 777 at HL - 34 points with 665 at HL.

....
The grades used to meet our entry requirements must include:

SQA: Highers: Mathematics at A. Higher Applications of Mathematics is not accepted in place of Higher Mathematics. Advanced Higher Mathematics is recommended. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. National 5s: English at C.

A Levels: Mathematics at A. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. GCSEs: English at C or 4.

IB: HL: Mathematics (Analysis and approaches only) at 6. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. SL: English at 5.

See: https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=G401
I would leave you to look up the other variations of CS degrees at the uni.
UCL:
Grades
A*A*A
Subjects
A* in either Mathematics or Further Mathematics required.
GCSEs
English Language and Mathematics at grade C or 4.
See: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/computer-science-bsc
I would leave you to look up the entry requirements for the MEng degree.
At the very least, Further Maths is recommended for ICL and UCL. For Edinburgh, it does not explicitly state that they would not reject it, but at the same time there is nothing to say that they won't consider it as a suitable 3rd A Level subject. To me, FM would be fine for the CS degree at Edinburgh.
If you want written confirmation from Edinburgh, consider submitting your query on the following page:
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/contacts

Thx so much! 🙂 Just written to Edinburgh and waiting for their reply, thx for helping :biggrin:

Reply 3

I did those 3 exact a levels and don't worry, it's not an issue. There is a myth that FM is disliked as a 3rd a level but it's not true, I've even checked with certain universities themselves on this.

Reply 4

Original post by Labradoodle1
I did those 3 exact a levels and don't worry, it's not an issue. There is a myth that FM is disliked as a 3rd a level but it's not true, I've even checked with certain universities themselves on this.

True. I've asked Edinburgh for this through emailing and they've just replied that a FM as a 3rd a level is fine.

Reply 5

Original post by MindMax2000
Imperial College:
At Imperial, there's no exact course for CS, but there are those for computing (BEng or MEng). Their entry requirements are:
A*A*A A*AAA
To include:

A* in Mathematics

A*, A in two further subjects or AAA in three further subjects, with Further Mathematics preferred.

Not accepted: ICT, Business Studies, General Studies and Critical Thinking Science Practical Endorsement: If you are made an offer you will be required to achieve a pass in the practical endorsement in all science subjects that form part of the offer.
Recommended subjects

Computer Science

Physics

Further Mathematics

Useful subjects

Ancient Language, Biology, Chemistry, Economics, Electronics, English Literature, History, Languages, Law, Philosophy, Politics, Psychology

See: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/courses/undergraduate/computing-beng/
The entry requirements for similar computing degrees would be similar to the above (I would let you to look them up yourself).
Edinburgh:
The standard entry requirement is:

SQA Highers: AAAAA (achievement by end of S5 preferred). BBB must be achieved in one year of S4-S6.

A Levels: A*A*A* - AAB in one set of exams.

IB: 43 points with 777 at HL - 34 points with 665 at HL.

....
The grades used to meet our entry requirements must include:

SQA: Highers: Mathematics at A. Higher Applications of Mathematics is not accepted in place of Higher Mathematics. Advanced Higher Mathematics is recommended. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. National 5s: English at C.

A Levels: Mathematics at A. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. GCSEs: English at C or 4.

IB: HL: Mathematics (Analysis and approaches only) at 6. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. SL: English at 5.

See: https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=G401
I would leave you to look up the other variations of CS degrees at the uni.
UCL:
Grades
A*A*A
Subjects
A* in either Mathematics or Further Mathematics required.
GCSEs
English Language and Mathematics at grade C or 4.
See: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/computer-science-bsc
I would leave you to look up the entry requirements for the MEng degree.
At the very least, Further Maths is recommended for ICL and UCL. For Edinburgh, it does not explicitly state that they would not reject it, but at the same time there is nothing to say that they won't consider it as a suitable 3rd A Level subject. To me, FM would be fine for the CS degree at Edinburgh.
If you want written confirmation from Edinburgh, consider submitting your query on the following page:
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/contacts

Then will having 4 good a level grades give me an advantage over three good a level grades, if only 3 is considered and required for the application? Cuz I've seen other top colleges like cambridge stating that stronger STEM applicants have 4 a levels with one of them being FM (Though I don't see imperial and edinburgh stating that officially, and I haven't found data to support nor object this theory in those schools).

Reply 6

Original post by MindMax2000
Imperial College:
At Imperial, there's no exact course for CS, but there are those for computing (BEng or MEng). Their entry requirements are:
A*A*A A*AAA
To include:

A* in Mathematics

A*, A in two further subjects or AAA in three further subjects, with Further Mathematics preferred.

Not accepted: ICT, Business Studies, General Studies and Critical Thinking Science Practical Endorsement: If you are made an offer you will be required to achieve a pass in the practical endorsement in all science subjects that form part of the offer.
Recommended subjects

Computer Science

Physics

Further Mathematics

Useful subjects

Ancient Language, Biology, Chemistry, Economics, Electronics, English Literature, History, Languages, Law, Philosophy, Politics, Psychology

See: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/courses/undergraduate/computing-beng/
The entry requirements for similar computing degrees would be similar to the above (I would let you to look them up yourself).
Edinburgh:
The standard entry requirement is:

SQA Highers: AAAAA (achievement by end of S5 preferred). BBB must be achieved in one year of S4-S6.

A Levels: A*A*A* - AAB in one set of exams.

IB: 43 points with 777 at HL - 34 points with 665 at HL.

....
The grades used to meet our entry requirements must include:

SQA: Highers: Mathematics at A. Higher Applications of Mathematics is not accepted in place of Higher Mathematics. Advanced Higher Mathematics is recommended. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. National 5s: English at C.

A Levels: Mathematics at A. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. GCSEs: English at C or 4.

IB: HL: Mathematics (Analysis and approaches only) at 6. Your Mathematics qualifications must have been achieved no more than two academic years prior to entry. SL: English at 5.

See: https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=G401
I would leave you to look up the other variations of CS degrees at the uni.
UCL:
Grades
A*A*A
Subjects
A* in either Mathematics or Further Mathematics required.
GCSEs
English Language and Mathematics at grade C or 4.
See: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/computer-science-bsc
I would leave you to look up the entry requirements for the MEng degree.
At the very least, Further Maths is recommended for ICL and UCL. For Edinburgh, it does not explicitly state that they would not reject it, but at the same time there is nothing to say that they won't consider it as a suitable 3rd A Level subject. To me, FM would be fine for the CS degree at Edinburgh.
If you want written confirmation from Edinburgh, consider submitting your query on the following page:
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/contacts

Cuz I'm still considering if it's worth risking it, I'm a bit afraid of 4 a levels affecting my school grade performance and possibly my a level performance (though I think it would have more effect on my school grade performance if any chance).

Reply 7

Original post by Ben123123123
Then will having 4 good a level grades give me an advantage over three good a level grades, if only 3 is considered and required for the application? Cuz I've seen other top colleges like cambridge stating that stronger STEM applicants have 4 a levels with one of them being FM (Though I don't see imperial and edinburgh stating that officially, and I haven't found data to support nor object this theory in those schools).

The 4 a levels with FM thing is often correlation and not causation. There are a couple very small exceptions to this (for example Cambridge Engineering I believe). I actually go to Imperial and checked with the computing department themselves when I was applying and they do not give better consideration to those with 4 a levels than those with 3.

Reply 8

Original post by Ben123123123
True. I've asked Edinburgh for this through emailing and they've just replied that a FM as a 3rd a level is fine.


It’s not a myth if you’re applying for a degree in English or history (and in many cases Law) etc. but for degrees like CS and engineering where maths is a fundamental basis of much of the content then it’s fine.

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