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sexual assault or not?

i was on holiday with friends last week in malta and on our first night there we went to a club. i started making out with a guy in his 20s who i had initially found attractive (im 17, was not looking for or asking for anything more than the initial kissing) and i was happy with how it was going until he put one of his hands into my skirt and into my underwear and proceeded to grab my vagina and then stick two of his fingers inside. it was only for a few minutes, so i don’t know it even counts as anything, but it felt like forever. you could say i was asking for it, as i was clearly initially showing interest by willingly kissing him, however i never gave any indication at all that i wanted him to go further like that). you could also argue that i am at fault for not stopping him or taking his hand out, but in that moment the only thing going through my head was panic and not a practical solution and so i guess my response was a sort of freeze response. i did stop kissing him though but he kept pulling me closer and grabbing me and trying to kiss me even when it was clear i was trying to get away. is it my fault? was this assault? or am i just too feeble to properly communicate and establish boundaries? please let me know your thoughts.
Reply 1
Yeah it was assault. He was taking advantage of the fact that you were young and he knew that you weren't able to stop him. It's not your fault at all. Especially as you stopped and he still went on even though that is a clear sign of disinterest.
Reply 2
Original post by Anonymous
i was on holiday with friends last week in malta and on our first night there we went to a club. i started making out with a guy in his 20s who i had initially found attractive (im 17, was not looking for or asking for anything more than the initial kissing) and i was happy with how it was going until he put one of his hands into my skirt and into my underwear and proceeded to grab my vagina and then stick two of his fingers inside. it was only for a few minutes, so i don’t know it even counts as anything, but it felt like forever. you could say i was asking for it, as i was clearly initially showing interest by willingly kissing him, however i never gave any indication at all that i wanted him to go further like that). you could also argue that i am at fault for not stopping him or taking his hand out, but in that moment the only thing going through my head was panic and not a practical solution and so i guess my response was a sort of freeze response. i did stop kissing him though but he kept pulling me closer and grabbing me and trying to kiss me even when it was clear i was trying to get away. is it my fault? was this assault? or am i just too feeble to properly communicate and establish boundaries? please let me know your thoughts.

It is a well known fact that VICTIMS of sexual assault and rape often ,wrongly, blame themselves. He likely knew EXACTLY what he was doing and no doubt has done it before and will do it again. I am sure there are a lot of such "predators" in Club's waiting for younger girls. You really should report it, if only to stop him doing it to others.
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Reply 3
Original post by Anonymous
i was on holiday with friends last week in malta and on our first night there we went to a club. i started making out with a guy in his 20s who i had initially found attractive (im 17, was not looking for or asking for anything more than the initial kissing) and i was happy with how it was going until he put one of his hands into my skirt and into my underwear and proceeded to grab my vagina and then stick two of his fingers inside. it was only for a few minutes, so i don’t know it even counts as anything, but it felt like forever. you could say i was asking for it, as i was clearly initially showing interest by willingly kissing him, however i never gave any indication at all that i wanted him to go further like that). you could also argue that i am at fault for not stopping him or taking his hand out, but in that moment the only thing going through my head was panic and not a practical solution and so i guess my response was a sort of freeze response. i did stop kissing him though but he kept pulling me closer and grabbing me and trying to kiss me even when it was clear i was trying to get away. is it my fault? was this assault? or am i just too feeble to properly communicate and establish boundaries? please let me know your thoughts.

No I do not think it was your fault, it was most certainly him taking advantage.
Consent has to be GIVEN *not* TAKEN. You consented to Kiss, but you did NOT consent to be groped/assaulted.

Take a parallel, different but an example. A girl may give consent to sex IF the man uses a condom. If he does NOT wear a condom, or takes it off, then that IS Rape. (a very recent case led to man going to jail for that example)

Another case from a long time ago. A Court ruled that it was acceptable for a Woman to Bite Mans Nose Off because he was sexually assaulting her. That stands as good law now I believe.
Reply 4
Original post by Anonymous
i was on holiday with friends last week in malta and on our first night there we went to a club. i started making out with a guy in his 20s who i had initially found attractive (im 17, was not looking for or asking for anything more than the initial kissing) and i was happy with how it was going until he put one of his hands into my skirt and into my underwear and proceeded to grab my vagina and then stick two of his fingers inside. it was only for a few minutes, so i don’t know it even counts as anything, but it felt like forever. you could say i was asking for it, as i was clearly initially showing interest by willingly kissing him, however i never gave any indication at all that i wanted him to go further like that). you could also argue that i am at fault for not stopping him or taking his hand out, but in that moment the only thing going through my head was panic and not a practical solution and so i guess my response was a sort of freeze response. i did stop kissing him though but he kept pulling me closer and grabbing me and trying to kiss me even when it was clear i was trying to get away. is it my fault? was this assault? or am i just too feeble to properly communicate and establish boundaries? please let me know your thoughts.


What I suggest is you ring these people, they are usually female ,have a lot of experience and some have actually gone through the same type of assaults, not all but some. They are sensitive and will know straightaway what to do.
Def worth calling ,or email them.
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/
GIRLIE IF YOU DIDN'T TELL HIM YES OR NO, HE SHOULDN'T ASSUME. HES A **** AND ITS NOT YOUR FAULT!!
Don't blame yourself
You pushed him away, you tried to assert and maintain boundaries- if he decides to continue he's a massive prick and a r**ist

I hope you're okay now and doing better:smile:)
Reply 6
Original post by mein2024
What I suggest is you ring these people, they are usually female ,have a lot of experience and some have actually gone through the same type of assaults, not all but some. They are sensitive and will know straightaway what to do.
Def worth calling ,or email them.
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/


thank you
Reply 7
Original post by Anonymous
GIRLIE IF YOU DIDN'T TELL HIM YES OR NO, HE SHOULDN'T ASSUME. HES A **** AND ITS NOT YOUR FAULT!!
Don't blame yourself
You pushed him away, you tried to assert and maintain boundaries- if he decides to continue he's a massive prick and a r**ist
I hope you're okay now and doing better:smile:)


thank you 🤍

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