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BMO1 help

I’m going into y12 and started dedicating myself to bmo at the start of the summer holidays , so 4 weeks ago. I’ve been doing ukmt stuff in my spare time on and off, starting with imc questions in y8 to intermediate Olympiad qs in y10/11 (I’ve never actually sat a paper irl bare in mind).
ATM I’ve made decent progress and can do up to some select q5s with assistance from my brother and hints from the solution(I have the book). However I find myself jumping from question to question if there too hard(basically most of them) ,only attempting hard questions because of my ego, sometimes fully looking at the mark scheme- not understanding it and feeling even stupider.
How do I proceed - is staring at a problem for an hour the way to go?
Are Olympiads even worth it unless you’re an IMO genius? Is it really possible to get say 40-50 in the actually paper which is in around 3-4 months .
Also I don’t think it’s a theory issue as I’ve gone through the theory in the book , and it’s very rare that a solution is crutched on some specific theory , rather I think it’s a problem solving issue.
Thank you ( help me)
Reply 1
Original post by Nishaan183737
I’m going into y12 and started dedicating myself to bmo at the start of the summer holidays , so 4 weeks ago. I’ve been doing ukmt stuff in my spare time on and off, starting with imc questions in y8 to intermediate Olympiad qs in y10/11 (I’ve never actually sat a paper irl bare in mind).
ATM I’ve made decent progress and can do up to some select q5s with assistance from my brother and hints from the solution(I have the book). However I find myself jumping from question to question if there too hard(basically most of them) ,only attempting hard questions because of my ego, sometimes fully looking at the mark scheme- not understanding it and feeling even stupider.
How do I proceed - is staring at a problem for an hour the way to go?
Are Olympiads even worth it unless you’re an IMO genius? Is it really possible to get say 40-50 in the actually paper which is in around 3-4 months .
Also I don’t think it’s a theory issue as I’ve gone through the theory in the book , and it’s very rare that a solution is crutched on some specific theory , rather I think it’s a problem solving issue.
Thank you ( help me)

Is it any specific type of problem? So geometry or ... Also why are you doing it? Oxbridge or ...?

Usually the bmo2 qualification is ~35 (last year it was a bit higher) so dont be too tough on yourself if you find the last couple hard. There is a distinct jump between bmo1, bmo2 and imo. Also youre probably more likely to lose marks on the earlier questions by not writing them up properly (decent justification). However, you could post the odd question here and describe how youre trying to go about it if you want some specific help.
(edited 3 months ago)
Reply 2
If anything I’m doing it for Oxford . But I don’t even know if they care, do they?
I’d really like to get into bmo2 and do alright in it . I highly doubt I could do any questions atm but maybe getting one of the 4 done in the actual paper would be nice.
My question is , is it possible to make significant progress, and if so how?
It’d hard to articulate but when I sit down to do a problem , my mind is all over the place, I end procrastinating and before you know it I’ve looked at the solution.
Should I just sit there for an hour, trying everything I can on a given problem?
Also if you could tell me if Oxford care that would be great, thanks!
Reply 3
Original post by Nishaan183737
If anything I’m doing it for Oxford . But I don’t even know if they care, do they?
I’d really like to get into bmo2 and do alright in it . I highly doubt I could do any questions atm but maybe getting one of the 4 done in the actual paper would be nice.
My question is , is it possible to make significant progress, and if so how?
It’d hard to articulate but when I sit down to do a problem , my mind is all over the place, I end procrastinating and before you know it I’ve looked at the solution.
Should I just sit there for an hour, trying everything I can on a given problem?
Also if you could tell me if Oxford care that would be great, thanks!

Putting what youve done on the smc/bmo1 down on your personal statement and, more importantly, describing what you learnt from it and how is fairly common for oxbridge applicants. However its unlikely to be a deciding factor. Its (smc and to some degree bmo1) arguably more important for the interview/test and to some degree the entrance exam (mat) as youre getting the experience of how to answer harder questions about elementary maths. Obviously mat is based on as maths as well, but there have been a fair number of questions which are based on elementary maths.

So its a decent thing to do, but its not something to stress about and its unlikely to make/break an application. If youve looked at it for an hour you could look at the first line of the solution and see if you can take it from there or you could post it/your thoughts here for a hint or if you have to look at the full solution, maybe come back to it in a months time and see if you can do it from scratch then. But dont look at all the questions/solutions without being able to make progess and its generally better to build up from the earlier/easier questions. So for n years, maybe get the first two done, then 3&4, then 5&6. If you need to do more earlier ones, then do ithem.
(edited 3 months ago)
Reply 4
Original post by mqb2766
Putting what youve done on the smc/bmo1 down on your personal statement and, more importantly, describing what you learnt from it and how is fairly common for oxbridge applicants. However its unlikely to be a deciding factor. Its (smc and to some degree bmo1) arguably more important for the interview/test and to some degree the entrance exam (mat) as youre getting the experience of how to answer harder questions about elementary maths. Obviously mat is based on as maths as well, but there have been a fair number of questions which are based on elementary maths.
So its a decent thing to do, but its not something to stress about and its unlikely to make/break an application. If youve looked at it for an hour you could look at the first line of the solution and see if you can take it from there or you could post it/your thoughts here for a hint or if you have to look at the full solution, maybe come back to it in a months time and see if you can do it from scratch then. But dont look at all the questions/solutions without being able to make progess and its generally better to build up from the earlier/easier questions. So for n years, maybe get the first two done, then 3&4, then 5&6. If you need to do more earlier ones, then do ithem.


Wow thanks , sounds good

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