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Aspiring detective yr 13

Hello everyone, I'd like some advice for year 13. I do a level English literature, A level law, Applied science and A level italian. I need some general advice for year 13 as I have a lot to do and I'm not sure on what to do to organise myself properly. There's a lot of content for law and English which I'm kinda struggling on. For applied science is hard to stay on top of coursework and honestly I really hate the subject. Italian I haven't really started revising as I'm doing it because it's my native language however I have to do lot of stuff for it and I think I'm just being lazy ngl. I'm basically cooked. I want to do a law degree so I'm probably gonna go through the degree route to become a police detective because I might change my mind on what to do and stuff and I want a degree to back me up. So yeah I'm very confused and also the routes to become a detective are also kinda confusing and stuff and I'm kinda behind on my work and i don't think I've properly mastered yr 12 content. So what do I do?
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Original post by idkejsksjsja
Hello everyone, I'd like some advice for year 13. I do a level English literature, A level law, Applied science and A level italian. I need some general advice for year 13 as I have a lot to do and I'm not sure on what to do to organise myself properly. There's a lot of content for law and English which I'm kinda struggling on. For applied science is hard to stay on top of coursework and honestly I really hate the subject. Italian I haven't really started revising as I'm doing it because it's my native language however I have to do lot of stuff for it and I think I'm just being lazy ngl. I'm basically cooked. I want to do a law degree so I'm probably gonna go through the degree route to become a police detective because I might change my mind on what to do and stuff and I want a degree to back me up. So yeah I'm very confused and also the routes to become a detective are also kinda confusing and stuff and I'm kinda behind on my work and i don't think I've properly mastered yr 12 content. So what do I do?

If you want to become a detective, criminology is a better degree to study than law. If you study law, you’ll have to study core modules outside of criminal law, such as tort, contract and land law. I know someone studying criminology who is working towards becoming a detective - personally, I think this is a wiser route. Law is also extremely competitive and oversubscribed at many universities. If you dislike applied science, can you not drop the subject? There is no benefit in doing 4 qualifications, especially since two of them are ones you are struggling in content-wise. You have the rest of the summer to revise content and start getting a plan together in terms of revision and coursework. Make a study schedule and stick to it for Year 13. Identify the areas you’re weak on in your subjects and use this time to focus on improving. This way, if these topics were to come up in your exams, you can be confident in your ability to answer related questions well.
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Original post by bibachu
If you want to become a detective, criminology is a better degree to study than law. If you study law, you’ll have to study core modules outside of criminal law, such as tort, contract and land law. I know someone studying criminology who is working towards becoming a detective - personally, I think this is a wiser route. Law is also extremely competitive and oversubscribed at many universities. If you dislike applied science, can you not drop the subject? There is no benefit in doing 4 qualifications, especially since two of them are ones you are struggling in content-wise. You have the rest of the summer to revise content and start getting a plan together in terms of revision and coursework. Make a study schedule and stick to it for Year 13. Identify the areas you’re weak on in your subjects and use this time to focus on improving. This way, if these topics were to come up in your exams, you can be confident in your ability to answer related questions well.


Hii thank you for the advice. I know law is competitive and oversubscribed however I want something to fall back on if I change my mind about becoming a detective and work in a law related field. For applied science I'm not sure if my head of year will let me drop it and I'm also very scared because although I still have 3 a levels would italian be considered as an equal because technically it's my native language. Do you have any other tips foru the detective route if you don't mind asking your friend because I checked on prospectus and it says that there's extra exams to do to become a detective I believe is called the "national detective programme" or something like that plus training. I'm not really sure on what will happen after doing my degree basically because a lot of people usually go for apprenticeships etc. Thank you so much for replying though it was very helpful. :smile:
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Original post by idkejsksjsja
Hii thank you for the advice. I know law is competitive and oversubscribed however I want something to fall back on if I change my mind about becoming a detective and work in a law related field. For applied science I'm not sure if my head of year will let me drop it and I'm also very scared because although I still have 3 a levels would italian be considered as an equal because technically it's my native language. Do you have any other tips foru the detective route if you don't mind asking your friend because I checked on prospectus and it says that there's extra exams to do to become a detective I believe is called the "national detective programme" or something like that plus training. I'm not really sure on what will happen after doing my degree basically because a lot of people usually go for apprenticeships etc. Thank you so much for replying though it was very helpful. :smile:

Regardless of whether Italian is your native language or not, it is still an A level qualification. It would not mean that universities wouldn’t count the A level, unless they explicitly state they will not. You don’t need a law degree to become a lawyer. A law degree will not even make you a lawyer. All a law degree does is provide you with the required knowledge to sit the bar exam (if you want to become a barrister) or the SQE (if you want to become a solicitor). You would still have to undergo further training and examination to become either. To become a solicitor, you don’t need a law degree at all anymore under the new SQE route. If you were to study criminology, you could still sit the SQE, as the only requirement to sit the exam is to have a degree in any subject. To sit the bar, you would need either an undergraduate qualifying law degree or a non-law undergraduate degree and a GDL, which acts as a conversion course for law. The only thing an undergraduate degree in law will give you is legal knowledge, but if you want to work in the legal industry, it’s not a requirement. You’ll have to do your own research on the detective route as I’m not quite sure on the process, and it may vary depending on your region. The Metropolitan Police require an undergraduate degree to join their training programme or two A levels to join their degree apprenticeship programme.

https://www.met.police.uk/police-forces/metropolitan-police/areas/c/careers/police-officer-roles/detective-constable/become-a-dc/Who-we-are-looking-for/
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You dont need a Law degree to be a copper.
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Original post by idkejsksjsja
Hello everyone, I'd like some advice for year 13. I do a level English literature, A level law, Applied science and A level italian. I need some general advice for year 13 as I have a lot to do and I'm not sure on what to do to organise myself properly. There's a lot of content for law and English which I'm kinda struggling on. For applied science is hard to stay on top of coursework and honestly I really hate the subject. Italian I haven't really started revising as I'm doing it because it's my native language however I have to do lot of stuff for it and I think I'm just being lazy ngl. I'm basically cooked. I want to do a law degree so I'm probably gonna go through the degree route to become a police detective because I might change my mind on what to do and stuff and I want a degree to back me up. So yeah I'm very confused and also the routes to become a detective are also kinda confusing and stuff and I'm kinda behind on my work and i don't think I've properly mastered yr 12 content. So what do I do?

If you're only in Y12, then I wouldn't worry too much because police entry routes have changed dramatically in the last 7 years out of all recognition, and will probably continue to do so. The reason the routes are confusing is because some of the decisions made a few years ago really messed up the system.

1.

Decide if you want to join directly as a uniformed police officer and then take the detective exams, or if you want to join directly as a detective.

2.

For some forces (including the Met) currently direct entry DCs need to have a degree.

3.

If you want to join as a uniformed officer first, the requirements are generally going to be in the A-level equivalent range. If you aren't having the greatest of times in VI Form, then I would leave the degree apprenticeship alone. It's not very taxing academically, but in terms of workload, it is very difficult to manage.

4.

I personally, think university first is a better idea - if money is no issue.

5.

If you are going to university - there is no benefit to criminology. There is nothing that you will be taught that will benefit you in any real way. Law will give you a little boost (but not much). Law isn't actually that competitive or tough, unless you are gunning for a top university. Law is also marginally better as a degree if it all goes Pete Tong and you decide you don't want to be a police officer after all.

My strong advice would be to get some experience of the realities of being a police officer - especially detectives. Best way is to talk to someone who actually does the job. There is enormous turnover of detectives at the moment for two key reasons:

First, people are using it as a step to other (non-police) things. As a first job, it's not bad pay at all and future employers recognise the "brand" of the police and think they can take ex-detectives seriously.

Second, a *lot* of people join with a very wrong idea of what detectives actually do, and get disillusioned or feel that the job has been missold to them. The reality of being a new detective (and at least your first 5 years) is that you won't be solving or even investigating many crimes in any real way. Most work will be putting cases together on whatever software programme the force uses and occasionally interviewing suspects, and very occasionally going to court. When I say "putting together cases" I mean collating different bits of paper (or electronic documents) and writing about summaries of them, and sending a lot of emails.
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Original post by trinculo
if you're only in y12, then i wouldn't worry too much because police entry routes have changed dramatically in the last 7 years out of all recognition, and will probably continue to do so. The reason the routes are confusing is because some of the decisions made a few years ago really messed up the system.

1.

decide if you want to join directly as a uniformed police officer and then take the detective exams, or if you want to join directly as a detective.

2.

for some forces (including the met) currently direct entry dcs need to have a degree.

3.

if you want to join as a uniformed officer first, the requirements are generally going to be in the a-level equivalent range. If you aren't having the greatest of times in vi form, then i would leave the degree apprenticeship alone. It's not very taxing academically, but in terms of workload, it is very difficult to manage.

4.

i personally, thing university first is a better idea - if money is no issue.

5.

if you are going to university - there is no benefit to criminology. There is nothing that you will be taught that will benefit you in any real way. Law will give you a little boost (but not much). Law isn't actually that competitive or tough, unless you are gunning for a top university. Law is also marginally better as a degree if it all goes pete tong and you decide you don't want to be a police officer after all.


my strong advice would be to get some experience of the realities of being a police officer - especially detectives. Best way is to talk to someone who actually does the job. There is enormous turnover of detectives at the moment for two key reasons:
First, people are using it as a step to other (non-police) things. As a first job, it's not bad pay at all and future employers recognise the "brand" of the police and think they can take ex-detectives seriously.
Second, a *lot* of people join with a very wrong idea of what detectives actually do, and get disillusioned or feel that the job has been missold to them. The reality of being a new detective (and at least your first 5 years) is that you won't be solving or even investigating many crimes in any real way. Most work will be putting cases together on whatever software programme the force uses and occasionally interviewing suspects, and very occasionally going to court. When i say "putting together cases" i mean collating different bits of paper (or electronic documents) and writing about summaries of them, and sending a lot of emails.


thank you so much that was so helpfulll!!
Original post by idkejsksjsja
Hello everyone, I'd like some advice for year 13. I do a level English literature, A level law, Applied science and A level italian. I need some general advice for year 13 as I have a lot to do and I'm not sure on what to do to organise myself properly. There's a lot of content for law and English which I'm kinda struggling on. For applied science is hard to stay on top of coursework and honestly I really hate the subject. Italian I haven't really started revising as I'm doing it because it's my native language however I have to do lot of stuff for it and I think I'm just being lazy ngl. I'm basically cooked. I want to do a law degree so I'm probably gonna go through the degree route to become a police detective because I might change my mind on what to do and stuff and I want a degree to back me up. So yeah I'm very confused and also the routes to become a detective are also kinda confusing and stuff and I'm kinda behind on my work and i don't think I've properly mastered yr 12 content. So what do I do?


You don’t need a law degree to be a copper 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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