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How hard is it to get A* in Further Maths A level?

Doing my maths gcse in less than a year and I'm more than ready. My teachers and i are confident I'll get a 9 easily. I like maths. I'm good at it after revising and stuff.

I'm also doing the ocr ad maths fmsq.
It's basically the first year of a level maths and it's going really well for me so far aswell.

I wanna do economics so maths,econ
(fm/chem). But how hard is it to get an A* in FM? Compared to another random a level like chemistry, is it significantly harder. How much harder is it than a level maths? Does it build on from ur knowledge in a level maths or is it completely different? How hard would it be?
If you want to take economics take fm as the top unis want to see fm. I take maths, further maths and computer science. I managed to achieve A* in fm and maths in my mock with both being above 90% and I only got a 7 at GCSE so at a 9 you should be fine, just make sure to do all textbook questions and lots of practice!
Original post by shr_ya
Doing my maths gcse in less than a year and I'm more than ready. My teachers and i are confident I'll get a 9 easily. I like maths. I'm good at it after revising and stuff.
I'm also doing the ocr ad maths fmsq.
It's basically the first year of a level maths and it's going really well for me so far aswell.
I wanna do economics so maths,econ
(fm/chem). But how hard is it to get an A* in FM? Compared to another random a level like chemistry, is it significantly harder. How much harder is it than a level maths? Does it build on from ur knowledge in a level maths or is it completely different? How hard would it be?

The grade boundaries for FM are set so that somewhere between 50% and 60% of takers get at least a grade A (I can’t remember the percentage that gets an A*, but it’s higher than most, if not all other subjects). However, be warned that this and your current progress in maths does not guarantee you an A* in FM or even ordinary A level maths, as I have seen many talented students with high grades in GCSE maths and FSMQ/AQA L2 further maths completely flop at A level due to complacency.

The approaches required to ace A level chemistry and to ace A level maths/FM are very different. Chemistry is more about memorising trends and facts and how to apply them, whereas maths/FM requires you to know methods inside out, when to use them and to be able to reproduce them on command.

Having mentored A level chemistry and some A level maths, my experience is that A level chemistry students usually don’t have too much of a problem learning the facts and trends, but the understanding tends to be where the problem lies. As such, helping chemistry students to improve was something that could be remedied as model answers, mark schemes and examiners reports gave them a means to see how to apply their knowledge to commonly asked exam questions and this often saw a noticeable improvement in their results. Maths questions, often being much more complicated and requiring multiple methods to be recalled and reproduced on command, were harder to work students through and improvements in results were often slower.
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Original post by Dayaveer
If you want to take economics take fm as the top unis want to see fm. I take maths, further maths and computer science. I managed to achieve A* in fm and maths in my mock with both being above 90% and I only got a 7 at GCSE so at a 9 you should be fine, just make sure to do all textbook questions and lots of practice!

woahhhh 90% omg that's amazing well done. thanks for the advice
Original post by UtterlyUseless69
The grade boundaries for FM are set so that somewhere between 50% and 60% of takers get at least a grade A (I can’t remember the percentage that gets an A*, but it’s higher than most, if not all other subjects). However, be warned that this and your current progress in maths does not guarantee you an A* in FM or even ordinary A level maths, as I have seen many talented students with high grades in GCSE maths and FSMQ/AQA L2 further maths completely flop at A level due to complacency.
The approaches required to ace A level chemistry and to ace A level maths/FM are very different. Chemistry is more about memorising trends and facts and how to apply them, whereas maths/FM requires you to know methods inside out, when to use them and to be able to reproduce them on command.
Having mentored A level chemistry and some A level maths, my experience is that A level chemistry students usually don’t have too much of a problem learning the facts and trends, but the understanding tends to be where the problem lies. As such, helping chemistry students to improve was something that could be remedied as model answers, mark schemes and examiners reports gave them a means to see how to apply their knowledge to commonly asked exam questions and this often saw a noticeable improvement in their results. Maths questions, often being much more complicated and requiring multiple methods to be recalled and reproduced on command, were harder to work students through and improvements in results were often slower.

Thank youuuu
Original post by Dayaveer
If you want to take economics take fm as the top unis want to see fm. I take maths, further maths and computer science. I managed to achieve A* in fm and maths in my mock with both being above 90% and I only got a 7 at GCSE so at a 9 you should be fine, just make sure to do all textbook questions and lots of practice!

Did you experience difficulty in understanding concepts in Further Maths (as it is meant to be a lot more difficult than A-level Maths), and if so, how did you overcome this ?
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Original post by wonder_greernn
Did you experience difficulty in understanding concepts in Further Maths (as it is meant to be a lot more difficult than A-level Maths), and if so, how did you overcome this ?

I found that for me personally the difficulty was the same. Once I learnt the concepts they stuck, some concepts took longer to get the hang of like vectors but all I dont was a lot of practice and I got the hang of it.

The only problem I faced what that I joined the course late so my class already covered chapter 1, when I learnt it in my spare time I didn't learn all the content properly so this caused me trouble in chapter 2. Make sure you fill every gap in your knowledge.
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Original post by shr_ya
Doing my maths gcse in less than a year and I'm more than ready. My teachers and i are confident I'll get a 9 easily. I like maths. I'm good at it after revising and stuff.
I'm also doing the ocr ad maths fmsq.
It's basically the first year of a level maths and it's going really well for me so far aswell.
I wanna do economics so maths,econ
(fm/chem). But how hard is it to get an A* in FM? Compared to another random a level like chemistry, is it significantly harder. How much harder is it than a level maths? Does it build on from ur knowledge in a level maths or is it completely different? How hard would it be?


This year the grade boundaries were pretty high (96% on one paper and 90% if u did FP1&FM1) so be willing to put in all the work and practice. Otherwise sounds like should be doable for someone like you
Original post by Jam.123
This year the grade boundaries were pretty high (96% on one paper and 90% if u did FP1&FM1) so be willing to put in all the work and practice. Otherwise sounds like should be doable for someone like you


From what I heard, FP1 (which had the 96% notional A* boundary you speak of) and FM1 both were awfully written papers and they lacked challenging questions to differentiate between the A and A* students, so it really came down to how accurate each candidates answers were.

I expect Edexcel has analysed the results, seen the stats and feedback and will act on them to do what they can in order to not repeat the same mistake.
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Original post by UtterlyUseless69
From what I heard, FP1 (which had the 96% notional A* boundary you speak of) and FM1 both were awfully written papers and they lacked challenging questions to differentiate between the A and A* students, so it really came down to how accurate each candidates answers were.
I expect Edexcel has analysed the results, seen the stats and feedback and will act on them to do what they can in order to not repeat the same mistake.


Yes, I did FP1, FS1 & FM1, they were all written fine imo but the whole of Further Maths is basically bookwork these days so it’s the practice and accuracy that’s key.
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Don’t trust Edexcel to act on it - they’ve been making truly atrocious papers for different reasons for a few years now. On the worst FS1 question, the examiner’s comment was along the lines of ‘the question’s premise was truly excellent but confusion in the wording prevented many candidates from proceeding.
Original post by Jam.123
This year the grade boundaries were pretty high (96% on one paper and 90% if u did FP1&FM1) so be willing to put in all the work and practice. Otherwise sounds like should be doable for someone like you


Cool thx
Original post by Dayaveer
I found that for me personally the difficulty was the same. Once I learnt the concepts they stuck, some concepts took longer to get the hang of like vectors but all I dont was a lot of practice and I got the hang of it.
The only problem I faced what that I joined the course late so my class already covered chapter 1, when I learnt it in my spare time I didn't learn all the content properly so this caused me trouble in chapter 2. Make sure you fill every gap in your knowledge.

thank you for your advice!

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