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Applying to Ivy Leagues/American colleges from the UK

Hi everyone!

I'm currently in Year 12, about to start Year 13 this September, and I'm considering applying to American colleges, specifically Stanford and Caltech. I made this decision quite late, so I'm unsure if I'm a strong enough applicant.

Academics:

A-Levels: Design Technology, Maths, and Physics with predicted grades of A*, A, A.
GCSEs: 6 A*'s (grade 9) and 5 A's (8/7s).
Extracurriculars:

Engineering: Gold Crest Award in an engineering project and an engineering-related EPQ.
Tutoring: I’ve been tutoring maths and supporting younger students at school clubs.
Volunteering: 1.3 years at a charity shop and involvement in my school’s Equalities group, organizing events like Culture Day.
Past Interests: I used to swim, play tennis, and play the guitar, but I haven't continued these recently.
I’m concerned that my extracurriculars might not be strong or relevant enough for top American colleges. Should I still consider applying, and if so, could anyone guide me on the process?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Reply 1
Original post by Anonymous
Hi everyone!
I'm currently in Year 12, about to start Year 13 this September, and I'm considering applying to American colleges, specifically Stanford and Caltech. I made this decision quite late, so I'm unsure if I'm a strong enough applicant.
Academics:
A-Levels: Design Technology, Maths, and Physics with predicted grades of A*, A, A.
GCSEs: 6 A*'s (grade 9) and 5 A's (8/7s).
Extracurriculars:
Engineering: Gold Crest Award in an engineering project and an engineering-related EPQ.
Tutoring: I’ve been tutoring maths and supporting younger students at school clubs.
Volunteering: 1.3 years at a charity shop and involvement in my school’s Equalities group, organizing events like Culture Day.
Past Interests: I used to swim, play tennis, and play the guitar, but I haven't continued these recently.
I’m concerned that my extracurriculars might not be strong or relevant enough for top American colleges. Should I still consider applying, and if so, could anyone guide me on the process?
Thanks in advance for any advice!

So, I'm no expert, but as an American I'll toss in my opinion. In the US, college applications are quite unpredictable, so even Ivy Leagues have variety in their student populations. The application essays are super important. You do have a pretty good portfolio, and I think you have a chance to get into an Ivy League. It is also normal for Americans to apply to a LOT of colleges, so if going to the US is more important to you than attending a super prestigious university, you can just apply to both Ivy Leagues and safe options! Even if you don't make it to an Ivy League, you can still attend a good university. But tuition fees might hit you hard, and if you go to an Ivy League, your chances of a scholarship diminish.
I go to school in the U.S., so I'm really familiar with the process. I agree with LeeJ9, the essays are super super important. Even if your resume might not be as good as other applicants, the way you write your essays can make it seem like you're super involved in whatever you're writing about. Especially for your main CommonApp essay, admissions officers don't just want to know what you did. Most importantly, they want to see personality change and growth. My biggest advice when writing essays is not only to write about what you did, but how that impacted you/changed your perspective. For example, for the supplementary essay about academics, you can talk about how your EPQ solidified your passion with engineering, describe the research methods you used, and your findings too.

Also, this is just based on what I know, but Stanford and Caltech are super hard to get into (I honestly think Stanford is harder to get into than most Ivy Leagues)

Good luck!
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Original post by Anonymous
Hi everyone!
I'm currently in Year 12, about to start Year 13 this September, and I'm considering applying to American colleges, specifically Stanford and Caltech. I made this decision quite late, so I'm unsure if I'm a strong enough applicant.
Academics:
A-Levels: Design Technology, Maths, and Physics with predicted grades of A*, A, A.
GCSEs: 6 A*'s (grade 9) and 5 A's (8/7s).
Extracurriculars:
Engineering: Gold Crest Award in an engineering project and an engineering-related EPQ.
Tutoring: I’ve been tutoring maths and supporting younger students at school clubs.
Volunteering: 1.3 years at a charity shop and involvement in my school’s Equalities group, organizing events like Culture Day.
Past Interests: I used to swim, play tennis, and play the guitar, but I haven't continued these recently.
I’m concerned that my extracurriculars might not be strong or relevant enough for top American colleges. Should I still consider applying, and if so, could anyone guide me on the process?
Thanks in advance for any advice!

My advice would be to absolutely apply to all of the schools you're genuinely interested in! The U.S. college admissions cycle is very unique as it is holistic, which at this point really just means that at a certain point it's pretty random. You certainly have the stats to be considered seriously for any of the Ivy's or other T20 schools, but keep in mind that there are a lot of students just as qualified as you, and every year across the country seniors with nearly identical applications as others see wildly different outcomes from the admissions process because a ton of this is a numbers game.

Think of it like this, a well qualified student with exceptional grades/test scores, a stellar personal statement, and successful interviews is very likely to get into Oxbridge. This same student would have a really good shot at getting into a school like Harvard, but to say they'd have a very likely chance would be a stretch. This is because, to be blunt, the admissions process in the U.S is quite flawed in comparison to the UK.

Because of this, while I have no intentions of deterring you from applying to top schools, I would say that if you really want to get into a top school in the U.S, you've got to apply to as many schools as you can possibly manage. This should absolutely include your top picks, Stanford and Caltech, but I'd work on making a more extensive list to increase your probability of getting into a top school. If you need help figuring out some schools, here's some others that I reccomend (I'm assuming you're looking to study Engineering? If not, these are all still great schools):

MIT hello, it's MIT!

UC Berkeley/UCLA/USC you seem to prefer the West Coast

Georgia Tech/Carnegie Mellon/Purdue/UT Austin maybe a little lower tier than the prestige you're looking for but they're incredible for STEM, like in.cred.i.ble.

UMich if you're looking to escape the cold then disregard but it's got a great alumni network & undergrad opportunities

All the Ivy's this would be Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Yale, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, UPenn

Johns Hopkins top tier STEM experience

Northwestern outside of Chicago, about as great of a school as you can get in the U.S., I have some personal bias lol

Duke awesome. best of every world.

Rice great tight-knit community

Vanderbilt elite Southern school


The list could go on and on and on and on... The point is, there are a ton of top universities in the U.S. and if you apply to a handful of these there's a good chance you'll get into at least a couple! Good luck with everything!
Reply 4
Original post by avafrancis
My advice would be to absolutely apply to all of the schools you're genuinely interested in! The U.S. college admissions cycle is very unique as it is holistic, which at this point really just means that at a certain point it's pretty random. You certainly have the stats to be considered seriously for any of the Ivy's or other T20 schools, but keep in mind that there are a lot of students just as qualified as you, and every year across the country seniors with nearly identical applications as others see wildly different outcomes from the admissions process because a ton of this is a numbers game.
Think of it like this, a well qualified student with exceptional grades/test scores, a stellar personal statement, and successful interviews is very likely to get into Oxbridge. This same student would have a really good shot at getting into a school like Harvard, but to say they'd have a very likely chance would be a stretch. This is because, to be blunt, the admissions process in the U.S is quite flawed in comparison to the UK.
Because of this, while I have no intentions of deterring you from applying to top schools, I would say that if you really want to get into a top school in the U.S, you've got to apply to as many schools as you can possibly manage. This should absolutely include your top picks, Stanford and Caltech, but I'd work on making a more extensive list to increase your probability of getting into a top school. If you need help figuring out some schools, here's some others that I reccomend (I'm assuming you're looking to study Engineering? If not, these are all still great schools):

MIT hello, it's MIT!

UC Berkeley/UCLA/USC you seem to prefer the West Coast

Georgia Tech/Carnegie Mellon/Purdue/UT Austin maybe a little lower tier than the prestige you're looking for but they're incredible for STEM, like in.cred.i.ble.

UMich if you're looking to escape the cold then disregard but it's got a great alumni network & undergrad opportunities

All the Ivy's this would be Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Yale, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, UPenn

Johns Hopkins top tier STEM experience

Northwestern outside of Chicago, about as great of a school as you can get in the U.S., I have some personal bias lol

Duke awesome. best of every world.

Rice great tight-knit community

Vanderbilt elite Southern school


The list could go on and on and on and on... The point is, there are a ton of top universities in the U.S. and if you apply to a handful of these there's a good chance you'll get into at least a couple! Good luck with everything!

Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such a detailed and thoughtful response—I’m genuinely grateful! Unfortunately, my parents aren’t too keen on the idea of me moving across the world to the U.S. at 18, so I’ve decided to focus on other options for now. However, I might have a chance to convince them around November when my finalised predicted grades come out. If that happens, I’d have to rush the application process quite a bit! For now, I’m definitely planning to apply for master’s programmes or higher education in the U.S. in the future. The U.S. is definitely calling my name! 😂
Thanks again for all the advice!
Reply 5
Original post by Anonymous
Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such a detailed and thoughtful response—I’m genuinely grateful! Unfortunately, my parents aren’t too keen on the idea of me moving across the world to the U.S. at 18, so I’ve decided to focus on other options for now. However, I might have a chance to convince them around November when my finalised predicted grades come out. If that happens, I’d have to rush the application process quite a bit! For now, I’m definitely planning to apply for master’s programmes or higher education in the U.S. in the future. The U.S. is definitely calling my name! 😂
Thanks again for all the advice!

Hey, if you're gonna be 18 they can't force you to stay. You could be like me; I argued with my parents for months so they would allow me to move from the US to the UK. I told them I would do whatever I needed to get there, and eventually they stopped fighting.
Reply 6
Original post by LeeJ9
Hey, if you're gonna be 18 they can't force you to stay. You could be like me; I argued with my parents for months so they would allow me to move from the US to the UK. I told them I would do whatever I needed to get there, and eventually they stopped fighting.

Haha! That's exactly what I've been telling them. At the end of the day, they'll be funding me, so I understand their concerns. I do need to look into scholarships for support since I definitely cannot afford it on my own.
Original post by Anonymous
Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such a detailed and thoughtful response—I’m genuinely grateful! Unfortunately, my parents aren’t too keen on the idea of me moving across the world to the U.S. at 18, so I’ve decided to focus on other options for now. However, I might have a chance to convince them around November when my finalised predicted grades come out. If that happens, I’d have to rush the application process quite a bit! For now, I’m definitely planning to apply for master’s programmes or higher education in the U.S. in the future. The U.S. is definitely calling my name! 😂
Thanks again for all the advice!

Predicted grades cannot possibly be given now or even November - you might get target grades but you won't have covered enough content for them to be accurate.
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Reply 8
Original post by Muttley79
Predicted grades cannot possibly be given now or even November - you might get target grades but you won't have covered enough content for them to be accurate.

Hi so i dont know if you're from the uk but usually predicted grades for uni applications are finalised late year 12/early year 13. they aren't accurate - i agree with that but they form predictions based on your performance, and project how they believe you will perform in the future. we apply to university with these grades and get offers based on them.
Reply 9
How was I clearly not in year 12 a month ago? The school year, for which I was in Year 12, ended July 2024 and Year 13 started September 2024 - I am in Year 13 now, but a month ago I wasn't??

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