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Why Scrapping the Two-Child Benefit Cap Could Save the UK's Future – A Real Left-Wing

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/62321/ending-the-twochild-benefit-cap

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/22/two-child-benefit-cap-education-secretary-bridget-phillipson-poverty


The call to end this cap isn't just about lifting 300,000 children out of poverty, as the data tells us, although that alone should be reason enough to scrap it immediately. No, there's a much bigger picture at play here—one that touches on the very future of our society and exposes the class bias ingrained in this policy.



This cap was never just about economic pragmatism; it was about social engineering, plain and simple. It’s designed to discourage working-class families from having more children. This is a class issue through and through. The idea that working-class people shouldn’t have more than two children because they might rely on state support is not just patronising; it’s deeply discriminatory. It’s as if the government is saying that only the wealthy should have the freedom to decide the size of their families, while the rest should just make do with what they’ve got.



But here’s where it gets interesting—the Labour government seems to be waking up to the reality of what left-wing policies should be about: helping the working class and the poor. Scrapping this cap is one of the most genuinely left-wing moves we’ve seen in a while, and it’s about time. For too long, working-class families have been penalised by policies that are out of touch with their everyday realities. Ending the two-child benefit cap sends a strong message that we value all families, not just those who can afford to have more children without state support.



Let’s face it, Britain is grappling with a declining birth rate, and that’s not something we can afford to ignore. Fewer children mean fewer people entering the workforce in the coming decades, and that spells trouble for a society that relies on its younger generations to support an aging population. If we continue down this path without intervention, we’re headed straight for a demographic crisis where the working population is too small to sustain the economy, let alone fund pensions and healthcare.



Encouraging families to have more children is not just about individual choice; it's a matter of national interest. Ending the two-child benefit cap is a step in the right direction. It sends a message that we value families and that we understand the economic and social importance of maintaining a stable population growth. It’s about creating a society where families don’t have to choose between having another child and financial stability.



And for those who say that lifting the cap would encourage irresponsibility, let's have some perspective. The data shows that the majority of families affected by this policy are working households. These aren’t people looking for handouts—they’re parents trying to make ends meet in a world where the cost of living is skyrocketing and wages aren’t keeping pace. Scrapping the cap isn’t about incentivising large families; it’s about acknowledging that children, all children, deserve a decent start in life, regardless of their family's financial situation.



It’s high time we look at policies like this not just through the lens of immediate costs, but through their long-term impacts on society. Population decline isn’t a theoretical problem; it’s happening right now, and it will have far-reaching consequences if we don’t start addressing it today. Ending the two-child benefit cap is a practical, necessary step to ensure we have a future workforce that can support the next generation and sustain the economic and social fabric of our country.



Let’s stop pretending that this cap is anything other than a short-sighted policy designed to keep the working class in their place. It’s time to do the right thing, not just for the families struggling today, but for the future of our society as a whole. I’m glad to see the Labour government finally pushing policies that genuinely help the working class and poor families. This is what real left-wing governance looks like—policies that uplift everyone, not just the privileged few.



While the move to scrap the two-child benefit cap is undoubtedly a step in the right direction, it’s hard to ignore the potential cracks forming within Labour’s own ranks. Keir Starmer’s government is facing a possible rebellion from Labour backbenchers who want the cap lifted immediately, as seen in recent discussions. Starmer’s cautious approach—indicating that the policy is under review—might be seen as a bid to keep the party unified. But let’s not kid ourselves; this is a significant test of his leadership and could well be the first of many as his administration seeks to balance progressive policies with fiscal prudence.

And speaking of fiscal prudence, let’s not forget the cold, hard reality of funding. The chancellor, Rachel Reeves, has already voiced concerns over where the £3 billion annual cost to scrap the cap will come from. It’s a fair point—after all, good intentions don’t pay the bills. But if Labour is truly committed to tackling child poverty, then they’ll need to muster the political will to find the resources. This isn’t just about economics; it’s about priorities. And in a party that’s often accused of abandoning its working-class roots, backing down on this issue could send the wrong message at the worst possible time.
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Care to explain the social engineering of means testing Child Benefit?
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Original post by Rincewind_Bored
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/62321/ending-the-twochild-benefit-cap
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/22/two-child-benefit-cap-education-secretary-bridget-phillipson-poverty
The call to end this cap isn't just about lifting 300,000 children out of poverty, as the data tells us, although that alone should be reason enough to scrap it immediately. No, there's a much bigger picture at play here—one that touches on the very future of our society and exposes the class bias ingrained in this policy.
This cap was never just about economic pragmatism; it was about social engineering, plain and simple. It’s designed to discourage working-class families from having more children. This is a class issue through and through. The idea that working-class people shouldn’t have more than two children because they might rely on state support is not just patronising; it’s deeply discriminatory. It’s as if the government is saying that only the wealthy should have the freedom to decide the size of their families, while the rest should just make do with what they’ve got.
But here’s where it gets interesting—the Labour government seems to be waking up to the reality of what left-wing policies should be about: helping the working class and the poor. Scrapping this cap is one of the most genuinely left-wing moves we’ve seen in a while, and it’s about time. For too long, working-class families have been penalised by policies that are out of touch with their everyday realities. Ending the two-child benefit cap sends a strong message that we value all families, not just those who can afford to have more children without state support.
Let’s face it, Britain is grappling with a declining birth rate, and that’s not something we can afford to ignore. Fewer children mean fewer people entering the workforce in the coming decades, and that spells trouble for a society that relies on its younger generations to support an aging population. If we continue down this path without intervention, we’re headed straight for a demographic crisis where the working population is too small to sustain the economy, let alone fund pensions and healthcare.
Encouraging families to have more children is not just about individual choice; it's a matter of national interest. Ending the two-child benefit cap is a step in the right direction. It sends a message that we value families and that we understand the economic and social importance of maintaining a stable population growth. It’s about creating a society where families don’t have to choose between having another child and financial stability.
And for those who say that lifting the cap would encourage irresponsibility, let's have some perspective. The data shows that the majority of families affected by this policy are working households. These aren’t people looking for handouts—they’re parents trying to make ends meet in a world where the cost of living is skyrocketing and wages aren’t keeping pace. Scrapping the cap isn’t about incentivising large families; it’s about acknowledging that children, all children, deserve a decent start in life, regardless of their family's financial situation.
It’s high time we look at policies like this not just through the lens of immediate costs, but through their long-term impacts on society. Population decline isn’t a theoretical problem; it’s happening right now, and it will have far-reaching consequences if we don’t start addressing it today. Ending the two-child benefit cap is a practical, necessary step to ensure we have a future workforce that can support the next generation and sustain the economic and social fabric of our country.
Let’s stop pretending that this cap is anything other than a short-sighted policy designed to keep the working class in their place. It’s time to do the right thing, not just for the families struggling today, but for the future of our society as a whole. I’m glad to see the Labour government finally pushing policies that genuinely help the working class and poor families. This is what real left-wing governance looks like—policies that uplift everyone, not just the privileged few.
While the move to scrap the two-child benefit cap is undoubtedly a step in the right direction, it’s hard to ignore the potential cracks forming within Labour’s own ranks. Keir Starmer’s government is facing a possible rebellion from Labour backbenchers who want the cap lifted immediately, as seen in recent discussions. Starmer’s cautious approach—indicating that the policy is under review—might be seen as a bid to keep the party unified. But let’s not kid ourselves; this is a significant test of his leadership and could well be the first of many as his administration seeks to balance progressive policies with fiscal prudence.
And speaking of fiscal prudence, let’s not forget the cold, hard reality of funding. The chancellor, Rachel Reeves, has already voiced concerns over where the £3 billion annual cost to scrap the cap will come from. It’s a fair point—after all, good intentions don’t pay the bills. But if Labour is truly committed to tackling child poverty, then they’ll need to muster the political will to find the resources. This isn’t just about economics; it’s about priorities. And in a party that’s often accused of abandoning its working-class roots, backing down on this issue could send the wrong message at the worst possible time.

Care to explain the social engineering intended by means testing Child Benefit?

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