move out or commute for uni?
hey im a year 12 going into year 13 soon and i really need to start narrowing down the unis i want to be applying for.
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
(edited 1 month ago)
Original post by miameni
hey im a year 12 going into year 13 soon and i really need to start narrowing down the unis i want to be applying for.
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
Hi there,
I haven't been in this situation, but hopefully I can help a little!
I would keep researching universities, both inside and outside of London. Find out where you'd like to go, pick the best courses and universities for you, and keep these in a list, even if it is more than 5. From here, compare the cost of living in those areas, accommodation costs, potential scholarships and funding, and any other options. If you became a commuting student and went to a more local school, would you be expected to pay rent or contribute? How can you make this commute as cheap as possible, and how reliable would the commute be?
From what you've explained, I think it would be a good idea to apply for a mix of schools in and out of London. This gives you so many more options for great universities. If you run into this issue again, at least you've already got a head-start on researching costs and what might be the best option for you.
It is a large price, but I would argue it is more than just a little freedom. Moving out to university is independence, freedom, and responsibility. You learn to live by yourself, create your own routine, learn to get along with new people, become self-sufficient, and grow so much as an individual. It is totally fine to commute - don't get me wrong. However, I think there is a lot more you can gain from moving out and living at university (although you definitely have similar/different experiences when you do commute, which can be useful too!).
I hope this helps a little and best of luck,
Isabella
Geography with a Year Abroad Student
Original post by Chester Student
Hi there,
I haven't been in this situation, but hopefully I can help a little!
I would keep researching universities, both inside and outside of London. Find out where you'd like to go, pick the best courses and universities for you, and keep these in a list, even if it is more than 5. From here, compare the cost of living in those areas, accommodation costs, potential scholarships and funding, and any other options. If you became a commuting student and went to a more local school, would you be expected to pay rent or contribute? How can you make this commute as cheap as possible, and how reliable would the commute be?
From what you've explained, I think it would be a good idea to apply for a mix of schools in and out of London. This gives you so many more options for great universities. If you run into this issue again, at least you've already got a head-start on researching costs and what might be the best option for you.
It is a large price, but I would argue it is more than just a little freedom. Moving out to university is independence, freedom, and responsibility. You learn to live by yourself, create your own routine, learn to get along with new people, become self-sufficient, and grow so much as an individual. It is totally fine to commute - don't get me wrong. However, I think there is a lot more you can gain from moving out and living at university (although you definitely have similar/different experiences when you do commute, which can be useful too!).
I hope this helps a little and best of luck,
Isabella
Geography with a Year Abroad Student
I haven't been in this situation, but hopefully I can help a little!
I would keep researching universities, both inside and outside of London. Find out where you'd like to go, pick the best courses and universities for you, and keep these in a list, even if it is more than 5. From here, compare the cost of living in those areas, accommodation costs, potential scholarships and funding, and any other options. If you became a commuting student and went to a more local school, would you be expected to pay rent or contribute? How can you make this commute as cheap as possible, and how reliable would the commute be?
From what you've explained, I think it would be a good idea to apply for a mix of schools in and out of London. This gives you so many more options for great universities. If you run into this issue again, at least you've already got a head-start on researching costs and what might be the best option for you.
It is a large price, but I would argue it is more than just a little freedom. Moving out to university is independence, freedom, and responsibility. You learn to live by yourself, create your own routine, learn to get along with new people, become self-sufficient, and grow so much as an individual. It is totally fine to commute - don't get me wrong. However, I think there is a lot more you can gain from moving out and living at university (although you definitely have similar/different experiences when you do commute, which can be useful too!).
I hope this helps a little and best of luck,
Isabella
Geography with a Year Abroad Student
Thank you so much for this!! and I agree with you with applying to a variety of unis, I've been making a list of unis I'm interested in and I think I'll try looking out for scholarships and cuts I can make aswell! thanks again
Original post by miameni
Thank you so much for this!! and I agree with you with applying to a variety of unis, I've been making a list of unis I'm interested in and I think I'll try looking out for scholarships and cuts I can make aswell! thanks again
Original post by miameni
hey im a year 12 going into year 13 soon and i really need to start narrowing down the unis i want to be applying for.
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
I was unsure about Moveing out I wanted to fully experience university life but spend the weekend at home so I chose what I’d call medium distance it takes about 2 hours 6 minuets to 2 hours 39 door to door I could get home at the weekend if I wanted to or whatever but I was also far enough away that I couldn’t go back everyday it worked out quite well really.
Original post by thegeek888
I wonder if you've considered applying to Law firms and Accounting/Tax firms for scholarships? 🙂
oh you can do that? as in, if I were to apply to say Nottingham I can get a scholarship through a law firm to partially fund my study there? do they do that?
Original post by jonathanemptage
I was unsure about Moveing out I wanted to fully experience university life but spend the weekend at home so I chose what I’d call medium distance it takes about 2 hours 6 minuets to 2 hours 39 door to door I could get home at the weekend if I wanted to or whatever but I was also far enough away that I couldn’t go back everyday it worked out quite well really.
ohhhh i see - tbh im not scared of the feeling of being home sick as i tend to adapt to my environment easily and i know i can always visit home during holidays, its more of the extra costs
Original post by miameni
oh you can do that? as in, if I were to apply to say Nottingham I can get a scholarship through a law firm to partially fund my study there? do they do that?
Original post by thegeek888
Yes, quite a lot of firms offer to pay for your entire degree nowadays. 😉 lol
oh wow!! thats crazy, do u know any specific details on this//firms offering?
Original post by miameni
oh wow!! thats crazy, do u know any specific details on this//firms offering?
Scholarships :: Stephenson Harwood Graduates (shlegal-futuretalent.com).
CMS offers £2,500 per year to 10 students and paid work experience placements over 3 years too.
Law Scholarships · CMS Emerging Talent
There are many other Law firms offering scholarships as well but you have to search for them. 😉
Original post by thegeek888
Stephenson Harwood is offering £15,000 per year to 5 students here in London.
Scholarships :: Stephenson Harwood Graduates (shlegal-futuretalent.com).
CMS offers £2,500 per year to 10 students and paid work experience placements over 3 years too.
Law Scholarships · CMS Emerging Talent
There are many other Law firms offering scholarships as well but you have to search for them. 😉
Scholarships :: Stephenson Harwood Graduates (shlegal-futuretalent.com).
CMS offers £2,500 per year to 10 students and paid work experience placements over 3 years too.
Law Scholarships · CMS Emerging Talent
There are many other Law firms offering scholarships as well but you have to search for them. 😉
thank you so much !! this is amazing, thanks for all the help
Original post by miameni
thank you so much !! this is amazing, thanks for all the help
The Lawyer’s top 200 UK law firms 2020
The top 50 make £100 million or more, so should be able to spare £15,000 to £20,000 a year really?! 🙂 lol
Also, try emailing the HR depts of the firms, as they might be able to implement a scholarship if they don't already exist at the firm. Because Stephenson Harwood only makes £200 million in revenue and offers £15,000 a year for 5 students, then surely the others can offer similar amounts.
Also, here is a list of the top 250 American Law firms:
http://www.lawadmin.com/top250.asp
Here is a list of American Law firms with offices here in London:
US firms in the UK - Chambers Student Guide
Here is a listy of the top 50 American Law firms here in London:
Top 50 US law firms in London
So have you decided if you're applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and SOAS? 😧
(edited 1 month ago)
Original post by thegeek888
Use this list to search for: "Scholarships" "name of firm"
The Lawyer’s top 200 UK law firms 2020
The top 50 make £100 million or more, so should be able to spare £15,000 to £20,000 a year really?! 🙂 lol
Also, try emailing the HR depts of the firms, as they might be able to implement a scholarship if they don't already exist at the firm. Because Stephenson Harwood only makes £200 million in revenue and offers £15,000 a year for 5 students, then surely the others can offer similar amounts.
Also, here is a list of the top 250 American Law firms:
http://www.lawadmin.com/top250.asp
Here is a list of American Law firms with offices here in London:
US firms in the UK - Chambers Student Guide
Here is a listy of the top 50 American Law firms here in London:
Top 50 US law firms in London
So have you decided if you're applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and SOAS? 😧
The Lawyer’s top 200 UK law firms 2020
The top 50 make £100 million or more, so should be able to spare £15,000 to £20,000 a year really?! 🙂 lol
Also, try emailing the HR depts of the firms, as they might be able to implement a scholarship if they don't already exist at the firm. Because Stephenson Harwood only makes £200 million in revenue and offers £15,000 a year for 5 students, then surely the others can offer similar amounts.
Also, here is a list of the top 250 American Law firms:
http://www.lawadmin.com/top250.asp
Here is a list of American Law firms with offices here in London:
US firms in the UK - Chambers Student Guide
Here is a listy of the top 50 American Law firms here in London:
Top 50 US law firms in London
So have you decided if you're applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and SOAS? 😧
thanks for the update with this ! ill be searching, and with the unis I think IM set on applying to Oxford if I can make my colleges deadline and then UCL. For the rest I'm porbably going to do exclusively outside of London - but thank you so much again!!
Original post by miameni
thanks for the update with this ! ill be searching, and with the unis I think IM set on applying to Oxford if I can make my colleges deadline and then UCL. For the rest I'm porbably going to do exclusively outside of London - but thank you so much again!!
Original post by thegeek888
Oxford's Law offer is AAA but UCL is A*AA?! 😧 lol
oh my gosh i know!! its so strange but it seems like most Oxford courses only ask for AAA (maybe thats more just for the humanities? not sure) but its a bit odd lol thats what makes me think about the application process and what really makes a student stand out to them
Original post by miameni
hey im a year 12 going into year 13 soon and i really need to start narrowing down the unis i want to be applying for.
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
For context, I want to be studying law and I want to be aiming high and I currently live in London. I know the unis in London are great for law (LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL etc.) however I really do want freedom at when I go into uni, I want to be surrounded by a new environment, different people and that's just not what I can personally get from a London uni.
If I were to go to a London uni, there would be practically no point in moving out to have a 'fresh start' since it is no more than an hour commute or less from where I live, also unnecessary additional expenses. Perhaps I could move out into halls for the first year and 2nd + 3rd move back home? Even then it sounds unnecessary and I would have a hard time convincing my parents on that.
I'm also open to the prospect of moving outside of London for uni such as Warwick or Bristol, however I'm just so so scared of the additional costs and loans. I know most people with an undergraduate degree will be stuck with this sort of debt but it just seems like a large price to pay just for a little bit of freedom?
I probably will end up applying to a mix of outside/London unis when it comes to it but depending on where I get my offers from, I will be stuck with the same dilemma on which uni to make my firm choice?
I would j like to hear some opinions from people who faced the same sort of problem as me and what they chose aswell, or even just in general what someone else would do if they were in my position. thank you !!
Hi there,
My names Lily and I’m a third year psychology student at ARU! I commute into uni so thought I could give you my experiences on commuting.
It takes me around an hour to get into uni so similar time to you. Likewise for you the actual commute isn’t a problem, but it’s choosing between commuting or having that little bit of freedom.
Personally, for me, I chose not to move out because I felt I wasn’t quite ready yet as well as the cost of moving out. I really don’t want the cost to put you off not moving out because there are multiple support facilities that you could possibly get from university as well as possibly having a part-time job which is really beneficial. Having a part-time job can one help for costs as well as having something apart from university to focus on. So I would say if you feel ready to move out go for it!
I also want to talk about my experience of commuting. I have found that I still have that different environment feel to what you’re wanting. You will have a whole new environment, a new group of people and a whole new degree to learn. I feel that I do have that aspect of freedom and it’s a good idea of what the real world is like.
All in all I would personally say you probably won’t get this opportunity to move out again in this certain situation so I would personally say go for it. However, if you do choose to commute, don’t feel that you won’t have that freedom you’re looking for because you will. University is what you make it.
If there’s any questions you want to ask, please let me know and I’m happy to reply
Lily
ARU Digital Ambassador
Original post by miameni
oh my gosh i know!! its so strange but it seems like most Oxford courses only ask for AAA (maybe thats more just for the humanities? not sure) but its a bit odd lol thats what makes me think about the application process and what really makes a student stand out to them
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