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Being seen only as a friend (20m)

Hello people of studentroom. This is touchy subject for me so I'm not comfortable sharing it with my friends. That's why I'm asking it here, anonymously. Basically I met one girl and we texted, hanged out few times in group and once alone, and everything was okay... I flirted over the text message just to give her sign that I like her as something more lol... But she's giving me off vibe like she doesn't see me like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it (I am lol) but it's constantly on my mind. So my question is, why am I always seen as just a friend? That happened a lot in my life. Girls would tell me oh you'll be such a great boyfriend yadda yadda, which I appreciate, but that never happened. I don't know what to do. I'm only seen as a friend, it's like a curse. And also I flirt here and there so it's not like I'm not giving them signs. My friends tell me, oh man you are 6'8 if I were you I'd be getting laid every day. And here I am, still without a kiss at 20. Do they see me as a friend because I'm unattractive or too nice (which I'm not, I can get in argument or stand by my point, tell what I think etc)... Thanks in advance.

TL;DR Girls see me as a friend, even though I flirt and show my intentions. What should I do?

Reply 1

Original post by Anonymous
Hello people of studentroom. This is touchy subject for me so I'm not comfortable sharing it with my friends. That's why I'm asking it here, anonymously. Basically I met one girl and we texted, hanged out few times in group and once alone, and everything was okay... I flirted over the text message just to give her sign that I like her as something more lol... But she's giving me off vibe like she doesn't see me like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it (I am lol) but it's constantly on my mind. So my question is, why am I always seen as just a friend? That happened a lot in my life. Girls would tell me oh you'll be such a great boyfriend yadda yadda, which I appreciate, but that never happened. I don't know what to do. I'm only seen as a friend, it's like a curse. And also I flirt here and there so it's not like I'm not giving them signs. My friends tell me, oh man you are 6'8 if I were you I'd be getting laid every day. And here I am, still without a kiss at 20. Do they see me as a friend because I'm unattractive or too nice (which I'm not, I can get in argument or stand by my point, tell what I think etc)... Thanks in advance.
TL;DR Girls see me as a friend, even though I flirt and show my intentions. What should I do?


Damn bro i hate to say it but as a girl most girls always say they'd never go for someone shorter than them however there are some girls who wouldn't mind so as long as you're not ugly then i think the right one will come someday okay don't be down in the dumps

Reply 2

Everybody has a different type and the girls you're going after-you've got the personality but you're not their type physically. not a bummer dude just means you're attractive and you haven't found the one yet. Or you're not aware of her, and there's a girl in your class going "dear diary, this man is my entire type-how do i approach him? how do i ask him out?" go meet a bunch of people and watch it happen-it will. when you're not thinking about it, it's gonna hit you and throw you for a loop!

Reply 3

Original post by Anonymous
Damn bro i hate to say it but as a girl most girls always say they'd never go for someone shorter than them however there are some girls who wouldn't mind so as long as you're not ugly then i think the right one will come someday okay don't be down in the dumps

Thanks for your opinion. Well I'm tall so that's not the problem. I just feel like I'll be forever alone, you know? Or that I'd never meet girl like this I'm currently talking to. Delusional, I know... Well I just want to know that problem isn't in me so I can continue life lol. Thanks for your opinion once again.

Reply 4

Original post by purplpeanut
Everybody has a different type and the girls you're going after-you've got the personality but you're not their type physically. not a bummer dude just means you're attractive and you haven't found the one yet. Or you're not aware of her, and there's a girl in your class going "dear diary, this man is my entire type-how do i approach him? how do i ask him out?" go meet a bunch of people and watch it happen-it will. when you're not thinking about it, it's gonna hit you and throw you for a loop!

Thanks a lot! Your message really gave me hope. I'd like to think that there is girl who's thinking like that about me. I'm just worried that I'll never meet girl like this I'm currently talking to. Well I'm just glad that the problem isn't in me, I'm just going to socialize and wait for right girl. Thanks again 🙏🏻

Reply 5

Original post by Anonymous
Hello people of studentroom. This is touchy subject for me so I'm not comfortable sharing it with my friends. That's why I'm asking it here, anonymously. Basically I met one girl and we texted, hanged out few times in group and once alone, and everything was okay... I flirted over the text message just to give her sign that I like her as something more lol... But she's giving me off vibe like she doesn't see me like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it (I am lol) but it's constantly on my mind. So my question is, why am I always seen as just a friend? That happened a lot in my life. Girls would tell me oh you'll be such a great boyfriend yadda yadda, which I appreciate, but that never happened. I don't know what to do. I'm only seen as a friend, it's like a curse. And also I flirt here and there so it's not like I'm not giving them signs. My friends tell me, oh man you are 6'8 if I were you I'd be getting laid every day. And here I am, still without a kiss at 20. Do they see me as a friend because I'm unattractive or too nice (which I'm not, I can get in argument or stand by my point, tell what I think etc)... Thanks in advance.
TL;DR Girls see me as a friend, even though I flirt and show my intentions. What should I do?

Gotta say I commiserate with you as I am in pretty much same position. I cant say anything coz then she might identify read this, but it just is horrible to like someone and that someone doesnt want it to go further than friends, just badly hurts the heart, makes it ache.

Reply 6

Original post by Anonymous
Gotta say I commiserate with you as I am in pretty much same position. I cant say anything coz then she might identify read this, but it just is horrible to like someone and that someone doesnt want it to go further than friends, just badly hurts the heart, makes it ache.

Yeah, you feel like, what is wrong with me? Even though nothing is wrong with you. There is a girl who'd like to be with you and who'd be happy when you text her, so it's better to find that girl... Good luck man.

Reply 7

Look for someone else who is interested is the best bet

Reply 8

Original post by Zarek
Look for someone else who is interested is the best bet

I'll do that, thanks.

Reply 9

Original post by Anonymous
Hello people of studentroom. This is touchy subject for me so I'm not comfortable sharing it with my friends. That's why I'm asking it here, anonymously. Basically I met one girl and we texted, hanged out few times in group and once alone, and everything was okay... I flirted over the text message just to give her sign that I like her as something more lol... But she's giving me off vibe like she doesn't see me like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it (I am lol) but it's constantly on my mind. So my question is, why am I always seen as just a friend? That happened a lot in my life. Girls would tell me oh you'll be such a great boyfriend yadda yadda, which I appreciate, but that never happened. I don't know what to do. I'm only seen as a friend, it's like a curse. And also I flirt here and there so it's not like I'm not giving them signs. My friends tell me, oh man you are 6'8 if I were you I'd be getting laid every day. And here I am, still without a kiss at 20. Do they see me as a friend because I'm unattractive or too nice (which I'm not, I can get in argument or stand by my point, tell what I think etc)... Thanks in advance.
TL;DR Girls see me as a friend, even though I flirt and show my intentions. What should I do?

At the risk of sounding somewhat brutal / harsh... why "should" they fancy you?

What qualities do you have that makes you feel that girls should find you attractive? Fair enough, you're tall... but what else have you got going for yourself? Are you good looking? Are you fit / healthy? Are you charming or self-confident? Can you hold / sustain a fun conversation? Are you funny (not in an Mr Bean type way lol)? Do you have a sense of style / swagger? Do you assert yourself in certain situations? Do you go out with them for nights out? If so, how do you behave there? Can you dance?

As a matter of fact, besides the one example you've given, how many of your girl-mates have you actually approached? With the girl in question, did you actually ask her out, or just hint that you liked her? What is your standing in these groups?

Reply 10

Original post by Anonymous
I'll do that, thanks.

Dating is tough, but when something works out it is a sweet experience. Keep the faith

Reply 11

Original post by Old Skool Freak
At the risk of sounding somewhat brutal / harsh... why

Reply 12

Original post by Old Skool Freak
At the risk of sounding somewhat brutal / harsh... why "should" they fancy you?
What qualities do you have that makes you feel that girls should find you attractive? Fair enough, you're tall... but what else have you got going for yourself? Are you good looking? Are you fit / healthy? Are you charming or self-confident? Can you hold / sustain a fun conversation? Are you funny (not in an Mr Bean type way lol)? Do you have a sense of style / swagger? Do you assert yourself in certain situations? Do you go out with them for nights out? If so, how do you behave there? Can you dance?
As a matter of fact, besides the one example you've given, how many of your girl-mates have you actually approached? With the girl in question, did you actually ask her out, or just hint that you liked her? What is your standing in these groups?
I look okay, I'm not fat, I have average build. I'm more fat than muscular tho but I'm not fat. If you were to see me you would think he's average built. So looks are average. I'm funny but not in a mr bean way haha... To sum everything up, I think that the problem is that I'm looking this over small sample of girls. I got friendzone in the past, but last time I got friendzoned was like 2 years ago lol... So since than I changed a lot and I asked only once girl. And it's not going bad, we are texting back and forth and she's interested in talking to me. But it feels like it's more friendly, idk why. Thanks for your detailed message, I appreciate it.

Reply 13

Original post by Zarek
Dating is tough, but when something works out it is a sweet experience. Keep the faith
Truer words were never spoken. I'm gonna wait to meet someone nice in the future. Thanks

Reply 14

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Original post by Old Skool Freak
At the risk of sounding somewhat brutal / harsh... why

Because I'm trying to get the OP to think logically about his situation and what the reasons may or may not be. Thankfully, he seems to have understood it, even if you didn't.

I'm not one of these people who gives comforting results to make someone feel good about themselves, and I'm not going to say "There there, be yourself and the right girl will come along"; that's not my style, I'm here to try and help fix their problems, If he's not getting the attention from girls / women he wants, then there must be a reason for it. The things I've listed are known attributes that people are attracted to... rather than just simply being "nice".

Based on your name, I'm sure you know that self-confidence (not arrogance) is an attractive quality in most people. The OP says he only hinted that he liked the girl in question... If he had said from the outset that he found her attractive and wanted to date her, would he have got a date? Maybe, maybe not...but the fact that he didn't properly assert himself shows he lacks self confidence (in this scenario, at least).


EDIT:- I'm actually trying to quote @SelfImprovement and I'm not sure why the quote is messed up... although I now suspect that user had messed up that post and was trying to say something else lol.
(edited 11 months ago)

Reply 15

Original post by Anonymous
I look okay, I'm not fat, I have average build. I'm more fat than muscular tho but I'm not fat. If you were to see me you would think he's average built. So looks are average. I'm funny but not in a mr bean way haha... To sum everything up, I think that the problem is that I'm looking this over small sample of girls. I got friendzone in the past, but last time I got friendzoned was like 2 years ago lol... So since than I changed a lot and I asked only once girl. And it's not going bad, we are texting back and forth and she's interested in talking to me. But it feels like it's more friendly, idk why. Thanks for your detailed message, I appreciate it.

No worries, I'm glad you didn't take my post in the wrong way 🙂

OK, so it looks like we've established two things:-

1) You need to cast your net a bit further afield and

2) You need to start asserting yourself.


So you've said you're looking at a small sample of girls... how are you realistically going to increase the number of girls in your "pool"? It's often mentioned Clubs and societies are a good way to meet new people in general, so think about certain things that interest you (e.g. join a sports club, an Art class; a reading group; even doing charity work). The club itself will naturally give you something in common with the people there, and provide a safe talking point. However, you need to have a GENUINE interest in whatever it is you're considering, and also ask yourself how likely is there to be girls there (e.g. you're unlikely to meet many girls at a football club, but you may meet some at an acting / drama class... and most dance classes have more girls than guys there). Remember this method is long-winded, so you need to be prepared to take the time / effort to build those connections with people before getting your flirt on.

As for the second point, so many guys miss out on girls, simply because they don't ask! It's really as simple as that. If you're talking socially to a new girl, chances are she'll know or suspect that you may be interested in her. If she's not interested, she's likely to mention a boyfriend in some way fairly early on in the chat. If you want to be absolutely sure, then when appropriate, just say something like "Oh, bet your fella loves that, eh?" IF she has a boyfriend, then she'll either agree or disagree as appropriate. However, if she's single, she'll then have to say she is... and if she doesn't immediately follow it up with how it's great to be single or how a BF would be a really bad move right now, you can take it as red that she's interested. It's worth noting that if she was only being friendly, you've also given her the perfect opportunity to "invent" a boyfriend, so she can let you down gently.

Also, remember girls (and people in general) love self-confidence. Therefore, even the specific manner in which you ask her can make a difference. For example, after having had a decent conversation, you saying "We get on great don't we, we should go out some time" sounds much more self confident than, "Would you like to go out sometime?". After all, if you're having a good chat and she's comfortable with your company, it's only logical she'd want to carry it on, no? Plus, it also makes it harder for her to say "No".

Also, it wont' hurt you to work on your appearance somewhat. Maybe look to a workout regime to give your physique a bit better definition. Whilst there's nothing wrong with being average, there's nothing great about it either (hence the name "average" lol)... so why not try and become a better version of "You"? There's loads of tips on this board and on the Internet in general, that don't involve expensive gym memberships. I can also give you a few pointers if you're interested. It might be worth you getting a professional opinion on which style of clothing suits you best.

Hope that helps 🙂

Reply 16

Original post by Old Skool Freak
No worries, I'm glad you didn't take my post in the wrong way 🙂
OK, so it looks like we've established two things:-

1) You need to cast your net a bit further afield and

2) You need to start asserting yourself.


So you've said you're looking at a small sample of girls... how are you realistically going to increase the number of girls in your "pool"? It's often mentioned Clubs and societies are a good way to meet new people in general, so think about certain things that interest you (e.g. join a sports club, an Art class; a reading group; even doing charity work). The club itself will naturally give you something in common with the people there, and provide a safe talking point. However, you need to have a GENUINE interest in whatever it is you're considering, and also ask yourself how likely is there to be girls there (e.g. you're unlikely to meet many girls at a football club, but you may meet some at an acting / drama class... and most dance classes have more girls than guys there). Remember this method is long-winded, so you need to be prepared to take the time / effort to build those connections with people before getting your flirt on.
As for the second point, so many guys miss out on girls, simply because they don't ask! It's really as simple as that. If you're talking socially to a new girl, chances are she'll know or suspect that you may be interested in her. If she's not interested, she's likely to mention a boyfriend in some way fairly early on in the chat. If you want to be absolutely sure, then when appropriate, just say something like "Oh, bet your fella loves that, eh?" IF she has a boyfriend, then she'll either agree or disagree as appropriate. However, if she's single, she'll then have to say she is... and if she doesn't immediately follow it up with how it's great to be single or how a BF would be a really bad move right now, you can take it as red that she's interested. It's worth noting that if she was only being friendly, you've also given her the perfect opportunity to "invent" a boyfriend, so she can let you down gently.
Also, remember girls (and people in general) love self-confidence. Therefore, even the specific manner in which you ask her can make a difference. For example, after having had a decent conversation, you saying "We get on great don't we, we should go out some time" sounds much more self confident than, "Would you like to go out sometime?". After all, if you're having a good chat and she's comfortable with your company, it's only logical she'd want to carry it on, no? Plus, it also makes it harder for her to say "No".
Also, it wont' hurt you to work on your appearance somewhat. Maybe look to a workout regime to give your physique a bit better definition. Whilst there's nothing wrong with being average, there's nothing great about it either (hence the name "average" lol)... so why not try and become a better version of "You"? There's loads of tips on this board and on the Internet in general, that don't involve expensive gym memberships. I can also give you a few pointers if you're interested. It might be worth you getting a professional opinion on which style of clothing suits you best.
Hope that helps 🙂

Thanks for such a long and clever message and sorry for replying one month late! I'd do as you said, I'll improve my appearance and also I started to practice positive affirmations and to work on my self confidence! I'll do my best to improve my chances with girls and also improve confidence, thanks a lot!

Reply 17

Original post by Anonymous
Hello people of studentroom. This is touchy subject for me so I'm not comfortable sharing it with my friends. That's why I'm asking it here, anonymously. Basically I met one girl and we texted, hanged out few times in group and once alone, and everything was okay... I flirted over the text message just to give her sign that I like her as something more lol... But she's giving me off vibe like she doesn't see me like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it (I am lol) but it's constantly on my mind. So my question is, why am I always seen as just a friend? That happened a lot in my life. Girls would tell me oh you'll be such a great boyfriend yadda yadda, which I appreciate, but that never happened. I don't know what to do. I'm only seen as a friend, it's like a curse. And also I flirt here and there so it's not like I'm not giving them signs. My friends tell me, oh man you are 6'8 if I were you I'd be getting laid every day. And here I am, still without a kiss at 20. Do they see me as a friend because I'm unattractive or too nice (which I'm not, I can get in argument or stand by my point, tell what I think etc)... Thanks in advance.
TL;DR Girls see me as a friend, even though I flirt and show my intentions. What should I do?

heyyyy can we get to know each other better if you don't mind🙃

Reply 18

Lose the self-pity. Most people aren't going to see you as a romantic prospect and that's okay, because most people don't feel romantic about most people. It's not a you thing or a personal curse, it's just a people thing.

If most of the people around you see you as a potential friend, that's a great blessing. It means you're basically likeable. Some people don't have that.

If this girl would rather be friends with you than romantically involved, that is par for the course. If you find it rewarding to hang out with her with no prospect of sex/romance, then do that. If you don't, then move on with a clear mind and conscience.

If there is one thing from your OP that could genuinely stand between you and the girl of your dreams, it is your sense that these girls seeing you as a friend rather than a romantic prospect, is an unfairness or a curse. It's not - it just is what it is - and it's for you to decide whether to receive your new friends graciously, or with bitterness.

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